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drfcsteve

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Other fixtures and results
« on March 30, 2024, 10:00:32 am by drfcsteve »
Just for a bit of fun, here is the maximum number of points available to the teams above us. As we know, the maximum available to Rovers is 73 points.

Bradford - 71
Harrogate - 73
Newport - 73
Wimbledon - 74
Morecambe - 75
Gillingham - 75
Walsall - 77
Crawley - 80
Crewe - 84
MK dons - 85
Barrow - 88

I haven’t included Wrexham Mansfield or Stockport as they already have 73 points or more. We can also probably exclude Barrow, MK and Crewe who should be ok to finish top 7.

We still have the opportunity to take points off Morecambe, Walsall, Barrow, and Gills.

Plus, there’s plenty of games left for them to take points off each other. On Monday for example Harrogate play Gills, Morecambe v Barrow, Newport v Crawley. Wimbledon have got Stockport to hopefully drop 3 points there.

Playoffs still needs a miracle but top half finish should be doable if we continue our form.



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« Reply #1 on March 30, 2024, 10:19:30 am by Nudga »
Play offs would be ace but for me it's about finishing above Bradford and Walsall.

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« Reply #2 on March 30, 2024, 07:14:22 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
i was watching the Newport score they were 1-0 up til late on - then the next time I looked was amazed they had lost
2-1   that was a very significant result in my world --- meaning Colchester ought to be safe when we go there

Colchester scored in the 75th minute then the winner in 90+2

At the start of the season I had Newport down for 4th bottom ---   and they look ed bound for a top 12 place

Walsall losing 5-0 did wonders for their goal difference - which is now +0 !!  we i think are now on -9 but you never know anyhow it was an excellent reality check  since we play them we have the double goal difference  a 2-0 win for us closes the  gap and in our dreams 3-0 they say makes 6 goal swing !!

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« Reply #3 on March 30, 2024, 07:15:55 pm by Spud »
Play offs would be ace but for me it's about finishing above Bradford and Walsall.

Bradford for me, please

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« Reply #4 on March 30, 2024, 08:12:07 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Just for a bit of fun, here is the maximum number of points available to the teams above us. As we know, the maximum available to Rovers is 73 points.

Bradford - 71
Harrogate - 73
Newport - 73
Wimbledon - 74
Morecambe - 75
Gillingham - 75
Walsall - 77
Crawley - 80
Crewe - 84
MK dons - 85
Barrow - 88

I haven’t included Wrexham Mansfield or Stockport as they already have 73 points or more. We can also probably exclude Barrow, MK and Crewe who should be ok to finish top 7.

We still have the opportunity to take points off Morecambe, Walsall, Barrow, and Gills.

Plus, there’s plenty of games left for them to take points off each other. On Monday for example Harrogate play Gills, Morecambe v Barrow, Newport v Crawley. Wimbledon have got Stockport to hopefully drop 3 points there.

Playoffs still needs a miracle but top half finish should be doable if we continue our form.

There's no better or simpler way than to beat those standing in our way.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #5 on March 31, 2024, 10:56:18 am by Campsall rover »
We can’t control other results. We just have to win all our games.
I think that will get us 7th. Just a chance 71 could. But goal difference could be crucial.
A 7-0 win v Wrexham would come in handy.  :)

Can’t see Crawley getting more than 72 looking at their fixtures.
But who knows.
Gillingham I think will be the biggest threat. Just my opinion. They don’t concede many goals. ( Don’t score many either )

Going to Harrogate tomorrow to spy on Gillingham.
Need Harrogate to win but home form is dodgy. That’s why I am not too concerned about us finishing above them.

Come on Town. A Club living the dream. Bookies had them bottom 2 at start of season. 2nd best away record in the league. Amazing
« Last Edit: March 31, 2024, 11:02:31 am by Campsall rover »

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« Reply #6 on March 31, 2024, 11:44:27 am by Campsall rover »
Just gone through all other teams fixtures and done a tot up on all other clubs points they might get.
Seriously it’s looking doubtful any one will get mote than 69 points.

I still think Gillingham my be the biggest threat but with only 5 to play they have to win 3 of them min or they are out of the equation. Or 2 wins and 3 draws.

Wimbledon will quite possibly get 3 wins and a draw from their last 5 games that gives them 69 points.

Crawley have a really tough run in on paper. 7 to play but can’t see them winning more than 3 if that. Again max of 69 points for them although I think they may end up with less.

Walsall if they can bounce back from that 5-0 defeat on Fri are a threat and I could see them getting 69 points.

Newport on paper have the easiest run in and again 69 points is what they could end up on. They could get 71 looking at their fixtures but they are not consistent in recent results.

Morecambe again could be a threat.  If we win there then that could be enough to put them out of it.
 
Harrogate I just don’t see winning enough games. Lots of draws on the cards for them I can see,

So getting really carried away 5 wins and 2 draws gives us 69 points and if we can get 2 x 3-0 wins or equivalent and get our goal difference into a plus by the time we go to Gillingham we could do it with 69 points.

BST suggested 69 might be enough earlier this week I think and I always felt a low number might get 7th this season.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2024, 12:07:30 pm by Campsall rover »

drfcsteve

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« Reply #7 on March 31, 2024, 01:09:39 pm by drfcsteve »
I suppose an advantage of playing Tuesday is we can see how everyone else gets on tomorrow. If results go our way we could leap up to 12th and still have games in hand.

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« Reply #8 on March 31, 2024, 01:26:44 pm by Padge_DRFC »
We can't drop points. Tuesday is a whole new level of game. They're hardly going to come and sit back as theyre going for the title. This may suit us.

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« Reply #9 on March 31, 2024, 02:14:20 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Just for a bit of fun, here is the maximum number of points available to the teams above us. As we know, the maximum available to Rovers is 73 points.

Bradford - 71
Harrogate - 73
Newport - 73
Wimbledon - 74
Morecambe - 75
Gillingham - 75
Walsall - 77
Crawley - 80
Crewe - 84
MK dons - 85
Barrow - 88

I haven’t included Wrexham Mansfield or Stockport as they already have 73 points or more. We can also probably exclude Barrow, MK and Crewe who should be ok to finish top 7.

We still have the opportunity to take points off Morecambe, Walsall, Barrow, and Gills.

Plus, there’s plenty of games left for them to take points off each other. On Monday for example Harrogate play Gills, Morecambe v Barrow, Newport v Crawley. Wimbledon have got Stockport to hopefully drop 3 points there.

Playoffs still needs a miracle but top half finish should be doable if we continue our form.

A thought.

Realistically, there's very little chance of us making 7th place without beating all three of Walsall, Morecambe and Gillingham.

Factoring that assumption in significantly reduces their possible final points tallies.

Also factor in that Crawley have still to play Mansfield, Wrexham and Newport away and Barrow at home, and it's easy to see them drop a lot of points.

This is what is leading me to think 69-70 points might seal 7th place.

In which case, a draw on Tuesday is not the end of the world.

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« Reply #10 on March 31, 2024, 02:37:13 pm by Avsuptem »
This is a fascinating thread with some excellent statistical analysis applied. Having zero expertise in this science myself I can only see it quite simply. If you could fast forward our 2 games in hand over Gillingham and we won them both we would be just 2 points behind with 5 to play.
To me this means if we win our next 2 games we can really start to get all excited.

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« Reply #11 on March 31, 2024, 03:05:00 pm by Chris Black come back »
There are other sides, most notably Crawley, who are on same games but clearly ahead of us, in their case 7 points.

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« Reply #12 on March 31, 2024, 03:26:20 pm by Campsall rover »
There are other sides, most notably Crawley, who are on same games but clearly ahead of us, in their case 7 points.
Their next 3 games all away v Newport, Mansfield & Wrexham.
They also have Barrow H, Colchester H, Sutton A & Grimsby H, last game.

Only game out of that lot that looks like 3 points is last one v Grimsby and they are improving.

Sutton have won last 3 games, Colchester are hard to beat at present, draw specialists under the Cowley’s.
Barrow won’t be easy although not as strong away from home as they are at home.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2024, 05:44:18 pm by Campsall rover »

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #13 on March 31, 2024, 04:17:09 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
There are other sides, most notably Crawley, who are on same games but clearly ahead of us, in their case 7 points.

Looking at matches remaining, I'd suggest Walsall should be favourites for 7th place.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #14 on March 31, 2024, 05:41:08 pm by Campsall rover »
There are other sides, most notably Crawley, who are on same games but clearly ahead of us, in their case 7 points.

Looking at matches remaining, I'd suggest Walsall should be favourites for 7th place.
If they recover from their mauling at MK Dons then you could be right. Will be interesting to see how they get on tomorrow at home to Salford and away at Tranmere next Saturday before they come to us a week on Tuesday.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2024, 05:43:20 pm by Campsall rover »

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« Reply #15 on March 31, 2024, 06:53:26 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Although form doesn't really count for much at this squeaky bum time of the season, another set of stats to consider is the run in analysis of each teams remaining fixtures

https://www.soccerstats.com/table.asp?league=england4&tid=10

The remaining fixtures show opponents ppg compared to their own, so the more favourable show in green and the more difficult in red.

Points in the bag count for alot so Gillingham are in the box seat but Walsall Newport and Harrogate, plus ourselves of course cant be ruled out.

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« Reply #16 on March 31, 2024, 07:08:33 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
Just for a bit of fun, here is the maximum number of points available to the teams above us. As we know, the maximum available to Rovers is 73 points.

Bradford - 71
Harrogate - 73
Newport - 73
Wimbledon - 74
Morecambe - 75
Gillingham - 75
Walsall - 77
Crawley - 80
Crewe - 84
MK dons - 85
Barrow - 88

I haven’t included Wrexham Mansfield or Stockport as they already have 73 points or more. We can also probably exclude Barrow, MK and Crewe who should be ok to finish top 7.

We still have the opportunity to take points off Morecambe, Walsall, Barrow, and Gills.

Plus, there’s plenty of games left for them to take points off each other. On Monday for example Harrogate play Gills, Morecambe v Barrow, Newport v Crawley. Wimbledon have got Stockport to hopefully drop 3 points there.

Playoffs still needs a miracle but top half finish should be doable if we continue our form.

A thought.

Realistically, there's very little chance of us making 7th place without beating all three of Walsall, Morecambe and Gillingham.

Factoring that assumption in significantly reduces their possible final points tallies.

Also factor in that Crawley have still to play Mansfield, Wrexham and Newport away and Barrow at home, and it's easy to see them drop a lot of points.

This is what is leading me to think 69-70 points might seal 7th place.

In which case, a draw on Tuesday is not the end of the world.

I DID ACTUALLY TELL YOU ALL THIS STUFF A WHILE AGO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH   including crawleys hard matches  the force "appears to with us " so we have the live the dream       

 i allowed us one draw and win all the rest a while ago - well we have those   so we can afford to draw t'morro   then we have 3 out of 4 home games  WITH GOAL DIFFERENCE COUNTING DOUBLE


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« Reply #17 on April 01, 2024, 07:37:40 am by ncRover »
Today there is:

Newport v Crawley
Harrogate v Gillingham

We need both to be draws

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« Reply #18 on April 01, 2024, 10:19:19 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
Today there is:

Newport v Crawley
Harrogate v Gillingham

We need both to be draws

Or, Newport and Harrogate wins would be good to sew further seeds of doubt into Crawley and Gillingham.

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« Reply #19 on April 01, 2024, 10:21:11 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
Today there is:

Newport v Crawley
Harrogate v Gillingham

We need both to be draws

Or, Newport and Harrogate wins would be good to sew further seeds of doubt into Crawley and Gillingham.

And Wimbledon to get turned over at Stockport.

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« Reply #20 on April 01, 2024, 10:23:42 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Today there is:

Newport v Crawley
Harrogate v Gillingham

We need both to be draws

Or, Newport and Harrogate wins would be good to sew further seeds of doubt into Crawley and Gillingham.

This. Definitely we want these results.

drfcsteve

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« Reply #21 on April 01, 2024, 10:47:44 am by drfcsteve »
Yep, and if Salford fancy beating Walsall for us that’d be great.

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« Reply #22 on April 01, 2024, 10:57:29 am by normal rules »
Big day today for the battle for a top half finish. Newport, Bradford and Harrogate all play today. Results will be interesting to watch unfold. Positive results today for rovers and a result against Wrexham tomorrow night could put rovers in 13th.

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« Reply #23 on April 01, 2024, 11:22:10 am by ncRover »
Today there is:

Newport v Crawley
Harrogate v Gillingham

We need both to be draws

Or, Newport and Harrogate wins would be good to sew further seeds of doubt into Crawley and Gillingham.

This. Definitely we want these results.

But that would put Newport (superior goal difference) and Harrogate 6 points ahead of us leaving us having to win both games in hand. The more teams we have to overtake the less likely the play off chase becomes.

Harrogate are back in good form but Newport have had a wobble.

Walsall are a very streaky team and are back on a bad run. That languid young striker who thought he was too good for us hasn’t scored in 5 games!

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« Reply #24 on April 01, 2024, 11:50:08 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Nc.

Look at the potential points each side above us can get. If we are going to have even a sniff of making 7th place, we need the 7th highest potential total to be as low as possible. Therefore we definitely want Crawley to lose today. With that result, between them, those two sides have maximum potential final totals of 73 and 77. If it's a draw, the figure are 71 and 78.

On reflection, it doesn't really matter to us whether Harrogate beat or draw with Gillingham. Either way, those two sides would, between them, have a maximum potential final total of 72 & 73 points.

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« Reply #25 on April 01, 2024, 03:04:27 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
That's Bradford all but out of the equation then.

rover-n-out

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« Reply #26 on April 01, 2024, 03:08:43 pm by rover-n-out »
Crawley 0-1 after 52secs.

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« Reply #27 on April 01, 2024, 03:14:46 pm by ncRover »
Morecambe and Walsall also with early leads bollox

Lakin again for Sutton!

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« Reply #28 on April 01, 2024, 03:28:25 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Crawley 2 up now. Never mind.

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« Reply #29 on April 01, 2024, 03:30:03 pm by rover-n-out »
Crawley 0-2 after 26mins, poor goal to concede by Newport, nobody putting a challenge in and allowing the Newport player to get a shot away. Poor from Newport that goal.

 

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