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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Colin C No.3 on December 09, 2017, 05:51:15 pm
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Can't we 'see a game out'?!!
Rochdale away. 1-0 up, they equalise in the 92nd minute & 'nick' all 3 points in the 94th minute. 3 points lost in time added on.
Shrewsbury home. 1-1 they score the winner in the 94th minute. 1 point 'dropped' in time added on.
Rotherham home. 1-0 up, they equalise in the 96th minute. 2 points lost in time added on.
Another 96th minute goal conceded today costing us yet another point lost in time added on.
I don't have to do the maths for you but those points 'lost' would have seen us sat 'comfortably' 9th in the table.
It's about game management. Today it happened to be Alfie May having a shot on goal in the 95th minute instead of 'looking after the ball', one minute later & Oxford attack & score, the ref blows his whistle after we restart the game, "Ta for that" 'say' Oxford. We'd better start learning how to do it, better late than never because otherwise we're going to spend the rest of the season looking over our shoulders.....if we're lucky!
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Hardly blame Alfie may it was a header that went over the bar so not sure how much he could look after the ball there
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Maybe it's because the players just aren't good enough??
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We are rotten away from home. Since the win at Plymouth in September the only goal we've scored was against 10 man Bury.
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Maybe it's because the players just aren't good enough??
So presumably when we don't concede in the ĺast five minutes, they are good enough then.
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Maybe it's because the players just aren't good enough??
I Can’t disagree with that . We are a good League 2 side and it shows .
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Fed up of it . They got the concentration level of a gold fish 🙄
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Maybe it's because the players just aren't good enough??
So presumably when we don't concede in the ĺast five minutes, they are good enough then.
Maybe it's because the players just aren't good enough??
So presumably when we don't concede in the ĺast five minutes, they are good enough then.
We have to be good for the whole 90 minutes, or 97, 98 minutes or whatever it is, and quite clearly we're not. Our league position shows that
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Can't we 'see a game out'?!!
Rochdale away. 1-0 up, they equalise in the 92nd minute & 'nick' all 3 points in the 94th minute. 3 points lost in time added on.
Shrewsbury home. 1-1 they score the winner in the 94th minute. 1 point 'dropped' in time added on.
Rotherham home. 1-0 up, they equalise in the 96th minute. 2 points lost in time added on.
Another 96th minute goal conceded today costing us yet another point lost in time added on.
I don't have to do the maths for you but those points 'lost' would have seen us sat 'comfortably' 9th in the table.
It's about game management. Today it happened to be Alfie May having a shot on goal in the 95th minute instead of 'looking after the ball', one minute later & Oxford attack & score, the ref blows his whistle after we restart the game, "Ta for that" 'say' Oxford. We'd better start learning how to do it, better late than never because otherwise we're going to spend the rest of the season looking over our shoulders.....if we're lucky!
You rightly list the late goals conceded, but you can also add the early goals conceded in either half and the numerous times we have conceded immediately after scoring into the same bracket!
To me this says we are very mentally weak. With concentration being a massive issue. At first it was a little annoying and possibly unlucky. But when it happens so often i put it down to being totally unprofessional.
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Maybe it's because the players just aren't good enough??
So presumably when we don't concede in the ĺast five minutes, they are good enough then.
Maybe it's because the players just aren't good enough??
So presumably when we don't concede in the ĺast five minutes, they are good enough then.
We have to be good for the whole 90 minutes, or 97, 98 minutes or whatever it is, and quite clearly we're not. Our league position shows that
So what you're saying is, even in the games we've won, we haven't been good enough.
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The thing that puzzles me is that conceding late goals and points in games that mattered was a feature of the second half of DF's first season. Points that would have kept us up.
DF and this team need to learn fast.
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Lot better team with Baudry in it than without him, first half we closed them down a treat half way through the second half we stopped doing it and then gave there player to much room to get his shot away, but it would of been totally different if the one that hit the post witch personally I thought it went over the line if I had gon in I think we would of won by a couple
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Maybe it's because the players just aren't good enough??
I think, unfortunately, this might be the answer. It's probably no co-incidence that the good sides tend to score more than the average number of late goals. Look at the Man U side when they were in their pomp - how many late goals did they score. We start to do a number of things wrong in the last few minutes, back off, aimless kicking of the ball, mental panics, etc, etc - because we're not a top league one side yet
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That Alfie May header was a clear chance in the six yard box again,the goal was another bad pass straight to one of the Oxford players 6 yds from him by Mason again,same players making the same mistakes week after week.
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Whereas I understand everybody's frustration I just do not support the view that we are crap at seeing out games. In my view it is mostly down to the cruelty of the footballing Gods, bad luck, DRFC's deadly curse or whatever you like to call it. I do agree that we deserve 9 more points than we have this season. We can only hope and prey that the pendulum of luck swings back in our favour sometime soon, the laws of probability say that is should.
I nearly through my laptop at the telly when the goal went in.
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That Alfie May header was a clear chance in the six yard box again,the goal was another bad pass straight to one of the Oxford players 6 yds from him by Mason again,same players making the same mistakes week after week.
I quite like Mason but I thought he was a weak link today. A right back is a real priority for me in January. Toffolo did ok, and although I'd like someone quicker there I wouldn't be against keeping him.
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It was a bit out of nowhere the shot, though it seemed to me it was allowed to happen because of people backing off again.
Mason was dreadful in the first half, could barely string a pass together.
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Donnievic, yes you can blame Alfie, if that had been Marquise or any other Striker it would have been classed as missing a sitter from six yards, which it was, and it is not the first one Alfie has missed from that range this season,but he runs(not very fast) and we all love him for effort.
It was very similar to an effort at Exeter by Mandeville last season,he scored.
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It wasn't really a sitter though was it?
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He was on the corner of the six yard box, and he did not have to jump, it went well over the bar, I expect better, at least hit the target, it was a poor effort at a very good chance to me.
Something we excel at, missing chances.
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It was a bit out of nowhere the shot, though it seemed to me it was allowed to happen because of people backing off again.
Mason was dreadful in the first half, could barely string a pass together.
Whiteman didnt close the scorer down & allowed him to set himself for the shot.
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It was a bit out of nowhere the shot, though it seemed to me it was allowed to happen because of people backing off again.
Mason was dreadful in the first half, could barely string a pass together.
Whiteman didnt close the scorer down & allowed him to set himself for the shot.
I thought so, just wasn't sure who it was that stood off.
Lawlor had plenty of time to get himself behind it though. His starting position was dreadful but it was from quite a distance. Etheridge was crucified for similar at Accrington.
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Whiteman was blowing out of his backside ten minutes from the end and should have been substituted,and Houghton tired visibly as well.
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Whereas I understand everybody's frustration I just do not support the view that we are crap at seeing out games. In my view it is mostly down to the cruelty of the footballing Gods, bad luck, DRFC's deadly curse or whatever you like to call it. I do agree that we deserve 9 more points than we have this season. We can only hope and prey that the pendulum of luck swings back in our favour sometime soon, the laws of probability say that is should.
I nearly through my laptop at the telly when the goal went in.
Oh dear. I really do think that's probably the biggest load of nonsense I've read on here for a long time. In my opinion obviously
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Laziness. Simple as. Whiteman should be hanging his head in shame along with Lawlor with the pathetic effort to save that shot.
Players, fans alike, the game isn't over until it's over! Relaxing mentally when you reach the 90 minute mark is foolish. And boy, have we been made to look fools this season. How much hurt does it take for the penny to drop?
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Donnievic, yes you can blame Alfie, if that had been Marquise or any other Striker it would have been classed as missing a sitter from six yards, which it was, and it is not the first one Alfie has missed from that range this season,but he runs(not very fast) and we all love him for effort.
It was very similar to an effort at Exeter by Mandeville last season,he scored.
hardly a sitter though and I was referring to the opening post saying may should look after the ball more but like I said not sure what he could do apart from score it was t like he surrounded by defenders and should of taken the ball to the corner to waste time