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Quote from: selby on January 10, 2022, 05:07:04 pm NR, your observations of years gone by are correct, the figures given on the radio stated that the numbers in ICU units last week numbered less than the numbers in the previous four years week for week (last Weeks corresponding dates) before 2019 and Covid, about 3400 of which only six per cent were Covid patientsI’ve researched ONS stats for flu and pneumonia also. Given we just don’t hear about this in the news at all currently. Between 2015 and 2019, 30,000 people sadly lost their lives every year with flu or pneumonia on their death certificate.that’s 150,000. No 28 day nonsense either. I’ll be interested to see how many flu deaths there have been for 2020/2021.
NR, your observations of years gone by are correct, the figures given on the radio stated that the numbers in ICU units last week numbered less than the numbers in the previous four years week for week (last Weeks corresponding dates) before 2019 and Covid, about 3400 of which only six per cent were Covid patients
Quote from: normal rules on January 10, 2022, 08:53:36 pmQuote from: selby on January 10, 2022, 05:07:04 pm NR, your observations of years gone by are correct, the figures given on the radio stated that the numbers in ICU units last week numbered less than the numbers in the previous four years week for week (last Weeks corresponding dates) before 2019 and Covid, about 3400 of which only six per cent were Covid patientsI’ve researched ONS stats for flu and pneumonia also. Given we just don’t hear about this in the news at all currently. Between 2015 and 2019, 30,000 people sadly lost their lives every year with flu or pneumonia on their death certificate.that’s 150,000. No 28 day nonsense either. I’ll be interested to see how many flu deaths there have been for 2020/2021.And the nonsense bit is?
Death certificate record the sequence of contributing factors that lead to death''in accordance with World Health Organisation(WHO) recommendations in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases andRelated Health Problems (ICD). You are asked to start with the immediate, direct causeof death on line Ia, then to go back through the sequence of events or conditions thatled to death on subsequent lines, until you reach the one that started the fatalsequence. If the certificate has been completed properly, the condition on the lowestcompleted line of part I will have caused all of the conditions on the lines above it. Thisinitiating condition, on the lowest line of part I will usually be selected as the underlyingcause of death, following the ICD coding rules. WHO defines the underlying cause ofdeath as “a) the disease or injury which initiated the train of morbid eventsleading directly to death, or b) the circumstances of the accident or violencewhich produced the fatal injury”. From a public health point of view, preventingthis first disease or injury will result in the greatest health gain. Most routinemortality statistics are based on the underlying cause. Underlying cause statistics arewidely used to determine priorities for health service and public health programmes andfor resource allocation. Remember that the underlying cause may be a longstanding,chronic disease or disorder that predisposed the patient to later fatal complications.AFAIK the recording of DCs has not changed due to covid NR.https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877302/guidance-for-doctors-completing-medical-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf
Strange how no-one is talking about the daily death figures which are rocketing up.The 7 day average of deaths by date of death (rather than the more erratic deaths by date reported) went up from 113 on Xmas Eve to 161 by 2 Jan. This is always a lagging indicator, so we don't yet know how it's gone over the past week and a half, but at the back end of December the trend was pretty much exactly tracking the daily new cases and daily hospitalisations from 3 and 1.5 weeks earlier.That is a big worry, because if the deaths carry on tracking the rise in cases, we are heading back up to 3-400 a day later this month.
Reports suggest omicron has gone past peak in London. We will get a better picture nationally in the next week or two. Could it be omigone soon?
Quote from: normal rules on January 13, 2022, 04:31:23 pmReports suggest omicron has gone past peak in London. We will get a better picture nationally in the next week or two. Could it be omigone soon?Be another week before we know the effect of the schools going back - but yes, the sheer amount of people who have had it - surely it will be omigone over and out soon?
Quote from: wilts rover on January 13, 2022, 07:47:17 pmQuote from: normal rules on January 13, 2022, 04:31:23 pmReports suggest omicron has gone past peak in London. We will get a better picture nationally in the next week or two. Could it be omigone soon?Be another week before we know the effect of the schools going back - but yes, the sheer amount of people who have had it - surely it will be omigone over and out soon?On the news earlier this evening someone said that the virus is running out of people to infect.
Is that why the school insists on them checking the pupils if nobody takes it seriously?
Partner has just come home. Her mum has been in a care home for a number of months for recovery for a condition.She tested positive for Covid in the care home about 3 weeks ago, as all but one resident did. They are all fine. She was allowed to go back to her home on Monday to live independently and she tested negative before going home. Yesterday she had a fall at home and had to go back into Rotherham hospital where she has a positive Covid test again! WTF is going on? Nobody takes these tests seriously do they?
Quote from: ravenrover on January 14, 2022, 01:08:37 pmIs that why the school insists on them checking the pupils if nobody takes it seriously?Kids are supposed to test Sun / Weds every week since April and this has been deemed good enough. However, whenever they have gone back at our kids school after a break such as after Easter and after the summer holidays and after Christmas, they close the school for 3 days and invite kids in for testing. Why can't kids just test at home on the sunday before school resumes after each holiday period if this has been deemed perfectly fine since April? We don't test our child though.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 14, 2022, 01:14:40 pmQuote from: ravenrover on January 14, 2022, 01:08:37 pmIs that why the school insists on them checking the pupils if nobody takes it seriously?Kids are supposed to test Sun / Weds every week since April and this has been deemed good enough. However, whenever they have gone back at our kids school after a break such as after Easter and after the summer holidays and after Christmas, they close the school for 3 days and invite kids in for testing. Why can't kids just test at home on the sunday before school resumes after each holiday period if this has been deemed perfectly fine since April? We don't test our child though. I think your last sentence answers your own question....