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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: RoversAlias on February 15, 2018, 11:39:11 am
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Six Rovers legends will be inducted to the Hall of Fame at the Fleetwood game on Saturday.
Harry Gregg
Brian Deane
Ian Snodin
Adam Lockwood
Syd Bycroft
Alan Warboys
All very worthy of the distinction and it'll be great to see them all back at the Rovers I'm sure.
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Ian Miller should be in there and also should Poncho Reagan
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Alan Warboys now he was a player,One of my childhood favourites..
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Six Rovers legends will be inducted to the Hall of Fame at the Fleetwood game on Saturday.
Harry Gregg
Brian Deane
Ian Snodin
Adam Lockwood
Syd Bycroft
Alan Warboys
All very worthy of the distinction and it'll be great to see them all back at the Rovers I'm sure.
You'll have a job to see Syd!
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Six Rovers legends will be inducted to the Hall of Fame at the Fleetwood game on Saturday.
Harry Gregg
Brian Deane
Ian Snodin
Adam Lockwood
Syd Bycroft
Alan Warboys
All very worthy of the distinction and it'll be great to see them all back at the Rovers I'm sure.
Don’t think you’ll be seeing Syd Bycroft
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Who makes the decisions about inductees ?
Sorry , but I don't see Adam Lockwood as a legend , gave good service to the club I must admit but there must be many other players worth consideration
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Before my time but was Brian Deane a legend for us? Good player elsewhere but from what I’ve heard he didn’t pull any trees up at Belle Vue.
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Brian Deane broke into the first team as a gangly youth, think bambi on ice.
He started the next season stronger, fitter, and looked a real threat. Then we sold him!
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Brian Deane broke into the first team as a gangly youth, think bambi on ice.
He started the next season stronger, fitter, and looked a real threat. Then we sold him!
Practically gave him to Sheff Utd and they made millions on him
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Red Baron, Filo - pedantic! I'm sure a family member will represent him. I'm merely bringing it to the forum's attention since everyone seems too caught up in arguing about Fergie and the players this week. This is something positive and something to look forward to on Saturday.
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Who makes the decisions about inductees ?
Sorry , but I don't see Adam Lockwood as a legend , gave good service to the club I must admit but there must be many other players worth consideration
The person who has responsibility heads up the Commercial team but of course everybody will have input. Deciding who is worthy and who isn't is one for debate, where do you draw the line? We are taking about a Hall of Fame and not a Hall of Legends.
Adam Lockwood played over 150 games for the club and Brian Deane didn't play anywhere near that number. However BD went on to represent his country and therefore is worthy of inclusion for that very reason.
I agree with RA, all worthy inductees.
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Brian Deane broke into the first team as a gangly youth, think bambi on ice.
He started the next season stronger, fitter, and looked a real threat. Then we sold him!
Practically gave him to Sheff Utd and they made millions on him
Sold to Sheff Utd for £25k
Sheff Utd sold him to Leeds for £2.9M,
We had no sell on clause 😤
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Although he was good Brian Dean only played 66 games and 12 goals for us so i dont think that is legendary for me
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Alan Warboys now he was a player,One of my childhood favourites..
And mine. Superb striker who became a top defender. His injury in 81 really messed up our chances of back to back promotions. I think it was in the Huddersfield game at home, we lost 2-1, and we were never the same team again that season having been right up there in the early part of the season. I remember a succession of 1-0 wins.
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Deane’s inclusion is a bit of a stretch. He became a top class player after he left is but he was hardly hall of fame material when he was with us. I’d prefer to see players who had been real heroes playing for us.
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Brian Deane broke into the first team as a gangly youth, think bambi on ice.
He started the next season stronger, fitter, and looked a real threat. Then we sold him!
Practically gave him to Sheff Utd and they made millions on him
I was working with Blades fans at the time. Remember saying that we’d got the best deal getting £45k for Deane and spending £30k on Paul Dobson.
Shows what I know about strikers. Dobson scored a couple of dozen more goals in his career in Div 4. Deane scores 200 goals in his career, went for £8m in transfer fees, played in the Premier League and for Benfica and got an England cap.
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Deane’s inclusion is a bit of a stretch. He became a top class player after he left is but he was hardly hall of fame material when he was with us. I’d prefer to see players who had been real heroes playing for us.
Agreed, it is after all a Rovers Hall of Fame rather than a football Hall of Fame. I'm sure the thinking of it is that he's a relatively big name, rather than he did anything to really warrant it.
By the way, does anyone have a full list of all the Hall of Fame inductees? I can't say I've heard much about it, vaguely remember Duggie or someone like that being inducted but I'm sure that was a while back...
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Great idea this, and can see the reasoning behind all the inductees. Anyone know if it'll be a yearly thing or will it just be whenever we want? Most yearly hall of fames suffer from the same thing, which is eventually running out of worthy names and having to induct a few also-rans. A hall of fame where we eventually have to induct Guy Ipoua and Mark Sale would be a sight to see.
Also will it be extended to include off-pitch people? Would be nice to see Paul Mayfield, Andy Liney, Eric Randerson etc and of course JR get some recognition. Among many others of course.
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Adam Lockwood your having a laugh , bang average we’ve had numerous centre backs by far better than him , Graeme Lee was more consistent defender
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Great idea this, and can see the reasoning behind all the inductees. Anyone know if it'll be a yearly thing or will it just be whenever we want? Most yearly hall of fames suffer from the same thing, which is eventually running out of worthy names and having to induct a few also-rans. A hall of fame where we eventually have to induct Guy Ipoua and Mark Sale would be a sight to see.
Also will it be extended to include off-pitch people? Would be nice to see Paul Mayfield, Andy Liney, Eric Randerson etc and of course JR get some recognition. Among many others of course.
It does seem to be as-and-when, several other players have been inducted usually in one-offs at intermittent times in the season. Colin Douglas definitely went in not too long ago, and there are a few others but the specific names have slipped my mind at the moment. Don't know if it's recorded on the website somewhere or not.
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Deane’s inclusion is a bit of a stretch. He became a top class player after he left is but he was hardly hall of fame material when he was with us. I’d prefer to see players who had been real heroes playing for us.
Maybe in for scoring first ever Premiership goal ? Though not for us of course !
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Adam Lockwood?
A good solid pro for us who never let us down. But if we’re including him in a “Hall of fame” then I’m sorry but it kind of devalues it.
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Great idea this, and can see the reasoning behind all the inductees. Anyone know if it'll be a yearly thing or will it just be whenever we want? Most yearly hall of fames suffer from the same thing, which is eventually running out of worthy names and having to induct a few also-rans. A hall of fame where we eventually have to induct Guy Ipoua and Mark Sale would be a sight to see.
Also will it be extended to include off-pitch people? Would be nice to see Paul Mayfield, Andy Liney, Eric Randerson etc and of course JR get some recognition. Among many others of course.
It does seem to be as-and-when, several other players have been inducted usually in one-offs at intermittent times in the season. Colin Douglas definitely went in not too long ago, and there are a few others but the specific names have slipped my mind at the moment. Don't know if it's recorded on the website somewhere or not.
Alick Jeffrey, Glyn Snodin, Peter Kitchen, Andy Warrington, Charlie Williams, Brian Makepeice?
Are names I seem to remember of the top of my head
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There's always going to be people complaining about things like this, Especially on here. There's be no list which everyone would agree on
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I don't see anyone complaining just discussing things for a change lol
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There's always going to be people complaining about things like this, Especially on here. There's be no list which everyone would agree on
Agree with vicar why are you over exaggerating?
It’s a discussion.
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There's always going to be people complaining about things like this, Especially on here. There's be no list which everyone would agree on
I'd like to see some posthumous inclusions. Tom Keetley, Fred Emery, Len Graham and Bert Tindill for starters. I'll work on it and put it to the club. Maybe they can be included next season.
EDIT - and before BRR pulls me up, add Walter Langton to that list!
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There's always going to be people complaining about things like this, Especially on here. There's be no list which everyone would agree on
Agree with vicar why are you over exaggerating?
It’s a discussion.
It is,
I'm just saying there's never going to be a list what everyone agrees on.
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It's what he does. Cos remember it's all about him.
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There's always going to be people complaining about things like this, Especially on here. There's be no list which everyone would agree on
Agree with vicar why are you over exaggerating?
It’s a discussion.
It is,
I'm just saying there's never going to be a list what everyone agrees on.
No you we're having a dig at certain posters as usual
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Surely Laurie Sheffield should be on the list, as should Terry Curran, Paul Raven and many others no doubt. As vicar says no list will ever satisfy majority.
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Deane’s inclusion is a bit of a stretch. He became a top class player after he left is but he was hardly hall of fame material when he was with us. I’d prefer to see players who had been real heroes playing for us.
Agreed, it is after all a Rovers Hall of Fame rather than a football Hall of Fame. I'm sure the thinking of it is that he's a relatively big name, rather than he did anything to really warrant it.
By the way, does anyone have a full list of all the Hall of Fame inductees? I can't say I've heard much about it, vaguely remember Duggie or someone like that being inducted but I'm sure that was a while back...
I've got the list. Will dig it out and post on here.
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Surely Laurie Sheffield should be on the list, as should Terry Curran, Paul Raven and many others no doubt. As vicar says no list will ever satisfy majority.
Off the top of my head I think Laurie is on it.
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Deane’s inclusion is a bit of a stretch. He became a top class player after he left is but he was hardly hall of fame material when he was with us. I’d prefer to see players who had been real heroes playing for us.
Agreed, it is after all a Rovers Hall of Fame rather than a football Hall of Fame. I'm sure the thinking of it is that he's a relatively big name, rather than he did anything to really warrant it.
By the way, does anyone have a full list of all the Hall of Fame inductees? I can't say I've heard much about it, vaguely remember Duggie or someone like that being inducted but I'm sure that was a while back...
I've got the list. Will dig it out and post on here.
Thanks. I tried googling it but no joy - even if there is something physical at the Keepmoat (I don't think there is but there may be), it wouldn't be hard to keep a list of the names and their career stats at the Rovers online. Shouldn't be up to one of the fans to track!
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The club asked me to check the appearance stats for the players concerned. Over the summer we'll be looking at sorting out the records for the club.
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I’m sure there is a Hall of Fame board up on the wall as you enter the hospitality lounge
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There's always going to be people complaining about things like this, Especially on here. There's be no list which everyone would agree on
Agree with vicar why are you over exaggerating?
It’s a discussion.
It is,
I'm just saying there's never going to be a list what everyone agrees on.
No you we're having a dig at certain posters as usual
Thanks for trying to tell me what I'm doing, but as per usual you're talking out your backside.
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Get nic priet in;-)
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I thought we had better cash the cheque for Brian Deane quickly before blunts figured things out. Little did I know
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Alan Warboys now he was a player,One of my childhood favourites..
And mine. Superb striker who became a top defender. His injury in 81 really messed up our chances of back to back promotions. I think it was in the Huddersfield game at home, we lost 2-1, and we were never the same team again that season having been right up there in the early part of the season. I remember a succession of 1-0 wins.
If I remember rightly, that 1-2 vs Huddersfield was on a friday evening, and it was very foggy?
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Including those to be inducted tomorrow:
Syd Bycroft
James Coppinger
Brian Deane
Colin Douglas
Harry Gregg
Alick Jeffrey
Peter Kitchen
Adam Lockwood
J. J. Price
Tim Ryan
Laurie Sheffield
Glynn Snodin
Ian Snodin
Andy Warrington
Charlie Williams
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Big Bren anyone? Dennis Peacock was a bit of a legend. Steve Lister, Billy Russell?
What they'd make of football nowadays...
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Alan Warboys now he was a player,One of my childhood favourites..
And mine. Superb striker who became a top defender. His injury in 81 really messed up our chances of back to back promotions. I think it was in the Huddersfield game at home, we lost 2-1, and we were never the same team again that season having been right up there in the early part of the season. I remember a succession of 1-0 wins.
If I remember rightly, that 1-2 vs Huddersfield was on a friday evening, and it was very foggy?
You are correct. I was in the cowsheds and you could hardly see the Rossington End.
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Looking at the current list , there's only Syd Bycroft pre-WW2 ....... Tom Keetley surely has to be included
What about nominating teams rather than individuals , 1946-47 record breaking side for example ,
Wembley play off side etc ?
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Surely our founding father should be in there, Albert Jenkins
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Still struggling with the concept of this when we induct Brian Deane and Adam Lockwood
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Made me laugh Gregg mentioning how good our pitch was and saying how much better it was compared to the sandpits at his local team then were there 50 years later filling in pot holes with sand.
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great effort by the club, enjoyed a chat with one or two later. :) :)
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I love the Hall of Fame idea. It’s gives me a chance to wear my rose tinted glasses and tell the kids how much better players were ‘back in my day’!!
Re Brian Deane, I used to chat with him quite often in the old social club bar at belle vue. He’d often be in there after a game with Andy Rhodes. He was a really, really nice kid who was unfortunate enough to be playing in a really poor team. I’d have loved him to have been a couple of years older and let Bremmner nurture him instead of Cusack.
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Lockwood was a good steady player for us. Played a lot of games over a long spell, was a fairly big part of our most successful team in 50 odd years making most of his appearances in the Championship, and most significantly lifted the play-off trophy at Wembley.
Not a bad record at all. Not the most outstanding player to pull on the shirt but you can't argue with what the club achieved when he was part of it.
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Nothing against either BD or Locky although not sure about being a legend though
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Warboys looked like he was struggling with his legs
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Should ask Copps for some tips considering how long his legs have supposedly been gone...
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Lockwood was a good steady player for us. Played a lot of games over a long spell, was a fairly big part of our most successful team in 50 odd years making most of his appearances in the Championship, and most significantly lifted the play-off trophy at Wembley.
Not a bad record at all. Not the most outstanding player to pull on the shirt but you can't argue with what the club achieved when he was part of it.
All true and don't forget he was club captain for most of this time too. Tells you all about his character and importance in the squad when he lifted the L1 Play Off trophy at Wembley along with Stock despite missing most of the season with injury.
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I agree with the possible induction of off the field candidates. Would John Ryan fall into that category
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We were debating the merits of how you join such a list at HT. Is it fan reactions to a player, i.e. jj price, or performances on the pitch. Say billy sharp? Probs both deserved for different reasons...
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Are any of the famous 50's team who had a sustained period in Division 2 (The championship in new money) in there? Brian Makepiece comes to mind as one i think is. Peter Doherty and a couple of others were Irish internationals I believe. And yes, Windy Miller (5-1 Newport, one man show) and Pancho Reagan definitely my boyhood heroes under Big Lawrie....Ironically I remember the 1-0 win at Millmoor 1970? when Pancho took Jim Furnell out, robust tackles allowed in those days...
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It is one of those subjects everyone has a different opinion about.
Lets just accept it for what it is, something the club is trying to do to recognise some of the players that have given us supporters pleasure watching them over the years.
As sure as I am that every player inducted deserve to be, there will be many just as deserving will miss out, it does not mean that we as supporters think any less of them.
After all they have all been our heroes at some time. Good bad or indifferent I cannot think of any that can be accused of not trying their best for us, and that is all we can ask of them.
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Warboys looked like he was struggling with his legs
He might be but when I had the chance to speak to him a few years ago he was struggling, as he had done for years, with his back. At the time he was driving a van for a living which no doubt made things worse.
He was dumbfounded as to why the club had never asked him to do any coaching over the years. A pity. His footballing brain was immense. Watching him in that 80/81 season was a joy and a privilege. He couldn't outrun anybody but he could out-think them and outmanoeuvre them. It was a masterclass in the art of the No.9.
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Alan Warboys is in my top 5 all time Rovers heroes. He and Alan Little were the rocks that the 1980/81 side was built around. The mesters who made it possible for the younger players to achieve.
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I’d completely agree with that Billy. Warboys was superb for us. After he’d retired I thought that we’d got a like for like replacement in Alan Brown but fate cursed us again.
Alan Warboys is in my top 5 all time Rovers heroes. He and Alan Little were the rocks that the 1980/81 side was built around. The mesters who made it possible for the younger players to achieve.
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I’d completely agree with that Billy. Warboys was superb for us. After he’d retired I thought that we’d got a like for like replacement in Alan Brown but fate cursed us again.
Alan Warboys is in my top 5 all time Rovers heroes. He and Alan Little were the rocks that the 1980/81 side was built around. The mesters who made it possible for the younger players to achieve.
Ernie Moss didnt do too bad for us either after Warboys. Both top old fashioned centre forwards.
Last of a breed we haven’t really seen the likes of since. Allan Brown, Paul Barnes, Leo Fortune West.
Chris Brown, John Marquis ets etc were/are a bit different.
None had the heading ability of those two.