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Silent Majority stated that this has been a big distraction behind the scenes which by implication suggests it has been going on a while. However reports are stating that they only made their official approach to speak to him on Friday. Is SM able to elaborate as it would be strangely comforting if we could lay our recent poor form squarely at the door of this issue rumbling on behind the scenes! As that issue has now resolved itself we would hopefully be able to rediscover our mojo you would hope.
Quote from: GazLaz on March 01, 2021, 10:46:58 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:23:17 amQuote from: Guernsey Exile on March 01, 2021, 09:20:11 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:10:03 amhttps://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.Martin - anything else you can tell us at this time?Well, let me say I'm glad he's gone. It's been a complete distraction.We have been adequately compensated and AB was always the contingency plan, which shows we were prepared if something like this did happen.Has this affected recent performances then do you think?Who knows. It’s possible.
Quote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:23:17 amQuote from: Guernsey Exile on March 01, 2021, 09:20:11 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:10:03 amhttps://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.Martin - anything else you can tell us at this time?Well, let me say I'm glad he's gone. It's been a complete distraction.We have been adequately compensated and AB was always the contingency plan, which shows we were prepared if something like this did happen.Has this affected recent performances then do you think?
Quote from: Guernsey Exile on March 01, 2021, 09:20:11 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:10:03 amhttps://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.Martin - anything else you can tell us at this time?Well, let me say I'm glad he's gone. It's been a complete distraction.We have been adequately compensated and AB was always the contingency plan, which shows we were prepared if something like this did happen.
Quote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:10:03 amhttps://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.Martin - anything else you can tell us at this time?
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.
Quote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 02:05:05 pmQuote from: Colin C No.3 on March 01, 2021, 02:01:38 pmQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 11:40:20 amQuote from: EasyforDennis on March 01, 2021, 11:37:22 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 11:35:11 amQuote from: Jonathan on March 01, 2021, 10:36:00 amWow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes, but probably not. I think you're reading far too much into this. The VSC twitter account is handled by a couple of people, not me I hasten to add, and there is no discussion about what they can tweet about. Absolutely none.As for the credit that Adam Henshall has been getting from people like me then that's only because he deserves that. He's been the one doing all the hard work on the recruitment front and yet supporters kept praising DM, I was just telling it as it is. When chatting about recruitment with the club it was Adam's name that always cropped up, not Darren's.I understand if you don't want to answer SM but are you disappointed he has gone? In a playing sense that is.No I'm not. The trouble with laid back managers is that the players, or maybe I should say certain players, take advantage of that. GM and DM were chalk and cheese in that respect. Do you know if he spoke to the players before he effed off Martin?From what I understand he hasn't spoke to anybody at the club.Gavin spoke to the players this morning at Cantley park.Poor.Just seeing the quotes coming out now in the media from his first interview. It is clear he did not even blink with the decision.His regard for us seems to be very low indeed.
Quote from: Colin C No.3 on March 01, 2021, 02:01:38 pmQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 11:40:20 amQuote from: EasyforDennis on March 01, 2021, 11:37:22 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 11:35:11 amQuote from: Jonathan on March 01, 2021, 10:36:00 amWow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes, but probably not. I think you're reading far too much into this. The VSC twitter account is handled by a couple of people, not me I hasten to add, and there is no discussion about what they can tweet about. Absolutely none.As for the credit that Adam Henshall has been getting from people like me then that's only because he deserves that. He's been the one doing all the hard work on the recruitment front and yet supporters kept praising DM, I was just telling it as it is. When chatting about recruitment with the club it was Adam's name that always cropped up, not Darren's.I understand if you don't want to answer SM but are you disappointed he has gone? In a playing sense that is.No I'm not. The trouble with laid back managers is that the players, or maybe I should say certain players, take advantage of that. GM and DM were chalk and cheese in that respect. Do you know if he spoke to the players before he effed off Martin?From what I understand he hasn't spoke to anybody at the club.Gavin spoke to the players this morning at Cantley park.
Quote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 11:40:20 amQuote from: EasyforDennis on March 01, 2021, 11:37:22 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 11:35:11 amQuote from: Jonathan on March 01, 2021, 10:36:00 amWow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes, but probably not. I think you're reading far too much into this. The VSC twitter account is handled by a couple of people, not me I hasten to add, and there is no discussion about what they can tweet about. Absolutely none.As for the credit that Adam Henshall has been getting from people like me then that's only because he deserves that. He's been the one doing all the hard work on the recruitment front and yet supporters kept praising DM, I was just telling it as it is. When chatting about recruitment with the club it was Adam's name that always cropped up, not Darren's.I understand if you don't want to answer SM but are you disappointed he has gone? In a playing sense that is.No I'm not. The trouble with laid back managers is that the players, or maybe I should say certain players, take advantage of that. GM and DM were chalk and cheese in that respect. Do you know if he spoke to the players before he effed off Martin?
Quote from: EasyforDennis on March 01, 2021, 11:37:22 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 11:35:11 amQuote from: Jonathan on March 01, 2021, 10:36:00 amWow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes, but probably not. I think you're reading far too much into this. The VSC twitter account is handled by a couple of people, not me I hasten to add, and there is no discussion about what they can tweet about. Absolutely none.As for the credit that Adam Henshall has been getting from people like me then that's only because he deserves that. He's been the one doing all the hard work on the recruitment front and yet supporters kept praising DM, I was just telling it as it is. When chatting about recruitment with the club it was Adam's name that always cropped up, not Darren's.I understand if you don't want to answer SM but are you disappointed he has gone? In a playing sense that is.No I'm not. The trouble with laid back managers is that the players, or maybe I should say certain players, take advantage of that. GM and DM were chalk and cheese in that respect.
Quote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 11:35:11 amQuote from: Jonathan on March 01, 2021, 10:36:00 amWow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes, but probably not. I think you're reading far too much into this. The VSC twitter account is handled by a couple of people, not me I hasten to add, and there is no discussion about what they can tweet about. Absolutely none.As for the credit that Adam Henshall has been getting from people like me then that's only because he deserves that. He's been the one doing all the hard work on the recruitment front and yet supporters kept praising DM, I was just telling it as it is. When chatting about recruitment with the club it was Adam's name that always cropped up, not Darren's.I understand if you don't want to answer SM but are you disappointed he has gone? In a playing sense that is.
Quote from: Jonathan on March 01, 2021, 10:36:00 amWow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes, but probably not. I think you're reading far too much into this. The VSC twitter account is handled by a couple of people, not me I hasten to add, and there is no discussion about what they can tweet about. Absolutely none.As for the credit that Adam Henshall has been getting from people like me then that's only because he deserves that. He's been the one doing all the hard work on the recruitment front and yet supporters kept praising DM, I was just telling it as it is. When chatting about recruitment with the club it was Adam's name that always cropped up, not Darren's.
Wow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes, but probably not.
Quote from: Lesonthewest on March 01, 2021, 02:37:56 pmQuote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:06:51 amIf he signs any of our players out of contract then that’s an utter disgrace If the club allowed that to happen, I'd be done.How exactly do you think they could stop it?
Quote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:06:51 amIf he signs any of our players out of contract then that’s an utter disgrace If the club allowed that to happen, I'd be done.
If he signs any of our players out of contract then that’s an utter disgrace
Quote from: Superspy on March 01, 2021, 02:38:40 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on March 01, 2021, 02:37:56 pmQuote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:06:51 amIf he signs any of our players out of contract then that’s an utter disgrace If the club allowed that to happen, I'd be done.How exactly do you think they could stop it?By sorting out new contracts I would have thought.
These rolling contracts are a joke.... it’s obvious we get good managers and lose them as soon as we get going..... sorry but the board carry the can on this, they didn’t learn after McCann and now this....
Quote from: Lesonthewest on March 01, 2021, 03:15:55 pmQuote from: Superspy on March 01, 2021, 02:38:40 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on March 01, 2021, 02:37:56 pmQuote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:06:51 amIf he signs any of our players out of contract then that’s an utter disgrace If the club allowed that to happen, I'd be done.How exactly do you think they could stop it?By sorting out new contracts I would have thought.I thought that might be the implication, but it's not like the club can force a player to sign a new contract. If a player wants to run his contract down and move to SW on a free there's literally nothing "the club" can do about it.
It is a massive shame that we can’t be in the ground tomorrow to show AB our support.I think the atmosphere would have been great.
As if by miracle his old mate Paul Williams was at SW6 on the training pitch for his first day today... That was a quick appointment for his backroom staff to say this only happened late yesterday..
I’d like to hear Butlers thoughts, theres surely a pre match presser today
Quote from: wing commander on March 01, 2021, 03:13:27 pm As if by miracle his old mate Paul Williams was at SW6 on the training pitch for his first day today... That was a quick appointment for his backroom staff to say this only happened late yesterday..Hardest part is getting them over the line.
From a purely footballing perspective I think I miss Grant McCann more than I’ll miss Darren Moore. For me, the football we played under McCann has been bettered only by the very best times under O’Driscoll and Penny (in my lifetime). DM had us playing some nice stuff and getting some good results (at times) but it never fully took off in my opinion. Sometimes I was a bit bored watching us. I never felt that under McCann.