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Quote from: Jonathan on June 19, 2018, 08:45:00 amAmazed that anyone is moaning about England. We deservedly won a game that should have been out of sight. Tunisia only had one shot on goal courtesy of the softest penalty you’ll ever see. We created countless chances - more than I remember seeing us create at any tournament game. Supposedly people had no expectations going into the tournament, yet still there’s all this complaining that we only won 2-1. Unbelievable. Just enjoy the tournament or turn over and watch love island. Sense at last. If the first half performance was in the second half and vice versa people would be lauding the performance. Completely dominated the game against a side that aren’t bad at all.
Amazed that anyone is moaning about England. We deservedly won a game that should have been out of sight. Tunisia only had one shot on goal courtesy of the softest penalty you’ll ever see. We created countless chances - more than I remember seeing us create at any tournament game. Supposedly people had no expectations going into the tournament, yet still there’s all this complaining that we only won 2-1. Unbelievable. Just enjoy the tournament or turn over and watch love island.
Quote from: GazLaz on June 19, 2018, 09:16:56 amQuote from: Jonathan on June 19, 2018, 08:45:00 amAmazed that anyone is moaning about England. We deservedly won a game that should have been out of sight. Tunisia only had one shot on goal courtesy of the softest penalty you’ll ever see. We created countless chances - more than I remember seeing us create at any tournament game. Supposedly people had no expectations going into the tournament, yet still there’s all this complaining that we only won 2-1. Unbelievable. Just enjoy the tournament or turn over and watch love island. Sense at last. If the first half performance was in the second half and vice versa people would be lauding the performance. Completely dominated the game against a side that aren’t bad at all.My view is this. England last night did exactly what you want a team who can challenge at a tournament to do.Potential tricky opening game and started very well. Got in front. Bizarre penalty for them to score as they were never going to be anywhere near scoring any other way. Then kept going in a tough second half and won it.It’s easy to slate England for that second half using the “slow and boring” excuse but if that was Germany or France last night everyone would be saying “But they get it done and know how to win.”Germany, Argentina and Brazil have all fallen short. Only France, England and Belgium really have set a marker down so far from the so called ‘top teams’. In 2016 we went in front vs Iceland, threw it away and we’re void of ideas and gave up with 10 mins to go really and accepted that we’re werent going to score. Last night, yes the intensity dropped, but they kept going and got the win.The only thing I could criticise really was not playing Rose for a left footer on the left and not making changes a litter earlier to freshen it up. The performance was fine and a good opener
Panama won’t be anywhere near as tough to beat as Tunisia were so whoever comes in may well shine more than the player they replace.Hopefully we can put in another good performance as we did in the first game but the primary objective is a win however we get it.
I think you are mistaken about me saying Wellbeck should be playing. I agree with the professionals that Rashford for Lingard, and Rose for Young, which was in my first post. I asked a question about Wellbeck, and pointed out that he has one of the best scoring records, and he is noted for putting a shift in, drops back into midfield and helps out, a far better player than given credit for. The big change may come if Ali is injured for the next game.
Is that David Jones we’re talking about? Cos he’d do a better job than Phil.
Yeah pure rubbish that Jones I mean he only made the World Cup squad didn’t he!
Gaz, a bit of an exaggeration that, He did say he would play 4 4 2 in our next game, and did say that we COULD give other players a game against Panama the players you named. He also said he did not think we would make many changes, and also said the way he thought was the reason he was sat talking on the Radio. Alan Brazil is for Rashford coming in for Sterling, but expects Sterling to play if Ali is injured, it's talksport that's what they are paid for.
Stones has previously played as a full back. What's wrong with that suggestion? I don't agree with it, but it's certainly not as ridiculous a thought as you seem to make it out to be.
He surely can’t have said play 4-4-2 and play wingbacks?
I’d consider only playing 2 centre halves and pushing someone else into midfield Say stones and Maguire at centre half, rose and trippier wingbacks and add Loftus-Cheek into middle of park We won’t need 3 centre halves against Panama,Just wasting a player
Quote from: dickos1 on June 20, 2018, 10:31:33 amI’d consider only playing 2 centre halves and pushing someone else into midfield Say stones and Maguire at centre half, rose and trippier wingbacks and add Loftus-Cheek into middle of park We won’t need 3 centre halves against Panama,Just wasting a player Did you see Harry Maguires heat map against Tunisia? He was in front of Henderson a lot of the time. Walker and Maguire get plenty of licence to get forward. I’d keep the same shape solely to give the players more experience playing that way.
Quote from: GazLaz on June 20, 2018, 10:53:31 amQuote from: dickos1 on June 20, 2018, 10:31:33 amI’d consider only playing 2 centre halves and pushing someone else into midfield Say stones and Maguire at centre half, rose and trippier wingbacks and add Loftus-Cheek into middle of park We won’t need 3 centre halves against Panama,Just wasting a player Did you see Harry Maguires heat map against Tunisia? He was in front of Henderson a lot of the time. Walker and Maguire get plenty of licence to get forward. I’d keep the same shape solely to give the players more experience playing that way. Exactly. Playing 3 centre backs is not necessarily a defensive formation. If your 2 wing backs play as de facto wingers and one of your centre halves pushes on, it can be a very offensive formation against weaker opponents.
Quote from: DearneValleyRover on June 20, 2018, 05:51:04 amYeah pure rubbish that Jones I mean he only made the World Cup squad didn’t he! He did, but no way should he be replacing walker.