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Quote from: donnievic on April 27, 2024, 08:01:34 pmQuote from: glosterred on April 27, 2024, 05:11:58 pmQuote from: Chris Black come back on April 27, 2024, 05:11:24 pmIs that a two or three match ban?One match banCOYR having seen highlights I think they have good grounds for appeal as he wasn’t denying a goal scoring opportunity and 3 covering defenders,wasn’t going in and the striker wasn’t getting there Just seen it and my first impression was TLT didn't give the ref a choice with the deliberate nature of the handball, irrespective of what might, or might not have happened after. Bit of a rush of blood there from TLT there, he didn't need to come that far out, Shame really but that's the high pressure nature of football.
Quote from: glosterred on April 27, 2024, 05:11:58 pmQuote from: Chris Black come back on April 27, 2024, 05:11:24 pmIs that a two or three match ban?One match banCOYR having seen highlights I think they have good grounds for appeal as he wasn’t denying a goal scoring opportunity and 3 covering defenders,wasn’t going in and the striker wasn’t getting there
Quote from: Chris Black come back on April 27, 2024, 05:11:24 pmIs that a two or three match ban?One match banCOYR
Is that a two or three match ban?
Quote from: Filo on April 27, 2024, 08:00:01 pmQuote from: drfchound on April 27, 2024, 07:53:19 pmQuote from: RoversInSpain on April 27, 2024, 07:40:57 pmQuote from: Ryaldinhio on April 27, 2024, 06:47:25 pmThere is a few things at play here;FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appealPersonally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.COYR!!!!TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a cornerThis.I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.Two points,1) it was Sterry’s header2) if it’s not a DOGSO offence it’s not a red cardOk, I got who headed it wrong but that is irrelevant.Deliberate handball outside the box, no doubt, but I’m not arguing about that.I’m agreeing that TLT might get away with a suspension if it can be proved that the handball didn’t stop a scoring opportunity.That is referring to the IFAB ruling mentioned by Ryaldinho.
Quote from: drfchound on April 27, 2024, 07:53:19 pmQuote from: RoversInSpain on April 27, 2024, 07:40:57 pmQuote from: Ryaldinhio on April 27, 2024, 06:47:25 pmThere is a few things at play here;FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appealPersonally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.COYR!!!!TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a cornerThis.I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.Two points,1) it was Sterry’s header2) if it’s not a DOGSO offence it’s not a red card
Quote from: RoversInSpain on April 27, 2024, 07:40:57 pmQuote from: Ryaldinhio on April 27, 2024, 06:47:25 pmThere is a few things at play here;FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appealPersonally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.COYR!!!!TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a cornerThis.I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.
Quote from: Ryaldinhio on April 27, 2024, 06:47:25 pmThere is a few things at play here;FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appealPersonally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.COYR!!!!TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a corner
There is a few things at play here;FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appealPersonally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.COYR!!!!
Quote from: drfchound on April 27, 2024, 08:11:00 pmQuote from: Filo on April 27, 2024, 08:00:01 pmQuote from: drfchound on April 27, 2024, 07:53:19 pmQuote from: RoversInSpain on April 27, 2024, 07:40:57 pmQuote from: Ryaldinhio on April 27, 2024, 06:47:25 pmThere is a few things at play here;FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appealPersonally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.COYR!!!!TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a cornerThis.I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.Two points,1) it was Sterry’s header2) if it’s not a DOGSO offence it’s not a red cardOk, I got who headed it wrong but that is irrelevant.Deliberate handball outside the box, no doubt, but I’m not arguing about that.I’m agreeing that TLT might get away with a suspension if it can be proved that the handball didn’t stop a scoring opportunity.That is referring to the IFAB ruling mentioned by Ryaldinho.You agree it was a red card, on what grounds if you think it was not DOGSO?
I actually think it's a yellow. If you watch the highlights, it was going away from goal and there were three defenders beteeen the ball and the striker. Not a clear goal scoring opportunity.
Quote from: Ye-Aul-Tavern on April 27, 2024, 08:11:04 pmI actually think it's a yellow. If you watch the highlights, it was going away from goal and there were three defenders beteeen the ball and the striker. Not a clear goal scoring opportunity.EXACTLY correct
Great, in this thread we have had one, two and three match bans, and also no ban. John Coyle who is right on most matters football, reckons one match ban.
The club must have thought we can live without him for one game and it’s not worth the risk. Go away from home, dig in, Nick a goal whatever it is…bring them back to the EP and destroy them.Not Jones biggest fan but we have to get behind him. That save near the end was superb.
Quote from: mushRTID on April 28, 2024, 10:53:43 amThe club must have thought we can live without him for one game and it’s not worth the risk. Go away from home, dig in, Nick a goal whatever it is…bring them back to the EP and destroy them.Not Jones biggest fan but we have to get behind him. That save near the end was superb.We can do more than just Nick a goal mush.We need to really get at them. No way we should rely on the 2nd leg to beat them. We are on a roll Crewe are in awful form.
What’s happened to Lawler? Is he injured?
TLT is the better keeper, but he’s also hugely influential in the improvement of the defensive unit.