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Title: Keane
Post by: DRFC_TID_93 on June 23, 2019, 01:52:15 pm
Roy Keane has stepped down from his Assistant Manager role at Forest to 'further his own managerial career'. Now if that coincidental timing? Or has he seen a job he'd like?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Branton Rover on June 23, 2019, 01:59:24 pm
Job beckons for Keane at the Monty Python argument clinic - no it doesn’t - yes it does
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: andysly on June 23, 2019, 02:02:22 pm
Can't see Keane being interested, but if he was we ought to build a bloody big wall around the Keepmoat to keep him away
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: DRNaith on June 23, 2019, 02:23:52 pm
Would you really quit a job to apply for another?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: since-1969 on June 23, 2019, 02:25:35 pm
Would  he help put bums on seats and get plenty of media time for the club ?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: BigH on June 23, 2019, 02:32:09 pm
Keane's problem is that he can't deal with players who are less talented or driven than he was as a player.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: the vicar on June 23, 2019, 02:39:08 pm
He was a great player but as a manager he was shit and that is from the Ipswich fans as I know quite a few
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Padge_DRFC on June 23, 2019, 02:50:16 pm
He needs to go to Man Utd and sort all the clowns out like Pogba, Lingard etc. No issues here at DRFC with that sort of stuff.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on June 23, 2019, 02:51:39 pm
One step up from Joey Barton, a disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Padge_DRFC on June 23, 2019, 03:31:22 pm
One step up from Joey Barton, a disaster waiting to happen.

Keane has had a shocker in regards to that lad from Man City, but to say a step up from Barton is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: glosterred on June 23, 2019, 03:43:59 pm
You ain’t getting many of the players arguing the toss with him, that’s for sure


COYR


Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Mark Lyall on June 23, 2019, 04:10:56 pm
I'd rather Evans get the job than Keane. , And I think Evans is a F.R.U.B
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Padge_DRFC on June 23, 2019, 06:52:00 pm
Imagine all the Liverpool fans reaction on here
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: RedJ on June 23, 2019, 07:00:27 pm
Imagine all the Liverpool fans reaction on here
More arsed about the Rovers fans' opinions to be honest.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: scawsby steve on June 23, 2019, 07:55:39 pm
Imagine all the Liverpool fans reaction on here
More arsed about the Rovers fans' opinions to be honest.

Good to see you back Red.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: selby on June 23, 2019, 09:45:48 pm
 Roy Keane has just been hotly tipped for the Doncaster Rovers managers job on Talk Sport radio as if they know he has the job, and made me wonder if things are further on than we the supporters realise.
  I have read the reservations some have about him being appointed, but at least he demands all out effort, and standards, and is up front with his opinions on players performances if they do not perform.
  I think whoever is appointed we the supporters will need to get behind him and trust the managements ability to hire the best applicant whoever it is.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 23, 2019, 09:48:38 pm
Good call. Good contacts. Always a committed person. Could do worse
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 23, 2019, 09:50:30 pm
Alfie inge Haaland (prob spelt wrong) as his assistant lol
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on June 23, 2019, 09:51:30 pm
He's been away from management directly for a while so could have learnt and improved coaching in that time working with others. However my forest supporting mates were complaining how their tactics and style is a throwback to football 20-30 years ago and not in a good way.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on June 23, 2019, 09:52:40 pm
An interesting situation, would be a massive shock.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 23, 2019, 09:53:01 pm
Would you really quit a job to apply for another?





If you were as loaded as he obviously will be then it doesn’t matter too much.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: mushRTID on June 23, 2019, 09:53:47 pm
I think it was Chris Brown on one of the under the cosh podcasts who spoke about Keane and it didn’t make good listening!
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 23, 2019, 09:54:27 pm
High profile appointment if it happened. Bums on seats. Hope he has a shave tho
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 23, 2019, 09:55:17 pm
People change and learn new things too
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 23, 2019, 09:56:22 pm
Imagine all the Liverpool fans reaction on here






Well I would imagine that they would be delighted.

I am wondering why Man Utd fans would be so jealous of Liverpool’s obvious advantages over Man Utd now that they have to bring Liverpool into this debate about Keane.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: elmsallrover on June 23, 2019, 10:10:20 pm
Could be a good thing can't see him coming here with little or no budget at all if true the board must be prepared to back him with some serious cash
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 23, 2019, 10:11:45 pm
One never knows. A lot of it is all about contacts and coming to play for an ex high profile player
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 23, 2019, 10:11:55 pm
Keane will probably go to Newcastle.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 23, 2019, 10:13:34 pm
Let’s just have Chris Hughton then
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: RoversAlias on June 23, 2019, 10:25:45 pm
What about a Keane/O'Driscoll tandem? Irish and Forest connection.

I'm adding 2 and 2 together and getting 758 I know, but the thought just popped into my head. Would be an interesting one.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: MachoMadness on June 23, 2019, 10:32:25 pm
What about a Keane/O'Driscoll tandem? Irish and Forest connection.

I'm adding 2 and 2 together and getting 758 I know, but the thought just popped into my head. Would be an interesting one.
Would make for an amazing sitcom if nothing else!
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 23, 2019, 10:33:20 pm
That is bizarre as 758 was my last three when I served in the RAF.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: selby on June 24, 2019, 09:29:33 am
  I will support whoever the selection committee appoint, they after all will know what criteria, personality,and football knowledge they will want the new manager to portray.
   But for a club that are in our situation, being slightly left in the doo doo by a manager who was well thought of and supported, and then left us at an important time in the build up to next season, the more I think of this guy, the more I think he could be a fit.
   Whoever comes in is going to have to be a strong character,be able to solidify, mould a bunch of young  strangers to each other, most coming in cold at the start of the season, some the choice of the previous manager, a situation he is familiar with having dealt with it at international level. And has the playing reputation and success for young players to respect. he demands total dedication and effort from his players, something we the supporters want and expect.
   As I have said, whoever we appoint is others choice, and I will back that choice whoever it may be. Apart from an assistant of their choice we are well served by our present back room staff who I hope we keep and they let carry on the excellent job they are doing in my opinion, I want as little disruption to the staff as possible just because two people have left, it would not help at all.
  I have every confidence in whoever gets the job will be up to the job football wise, but like others would like an early as possible decision as time is of the essence.
  One good thing that could come out of the situation, it gives the club the opportunity to project the club and the new manager locally to the supporters at meetings etc. and drum up interest.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Move DRFC on June 24, 2019, 09:33:49 am
Keane is destructive, falls out with players, doesn't come across as a nice guy and doesn't have any success as a manager or coach on CV.

Evans would also be a shambles but i'd rather him than Keane, not sure what the appeal is, other than media coverage.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: wing commander on June 24, 2019, 09:42:31 am
    In truth I have taken the attitude on what will be will be,wether it be Evans,Keane or any of the mostly uninspiring names on the betting lists.If you were to ask me who I would like who is a realistic candidate I would struggle to come up with much of a list if I'm honest..

    So I'm keeping a open mind on this and taking the attitude that the board will appoint the guy who gives the best pitch,shows the best knowledge and meets the criteria they set regardless of what I think of them..I'm also taking the opinion that this season now has little or no expectations..Weve lost our manager,our assistant and quite a few of the team who did so well last season and even in the eyes of our most downbeat supporters a fitness coach who left years ago....

   So this season is all about stability for me,getting in a manager who builds a team for the future from a light base,keep us in this league and hopefully then start seeing the fruits of his Labour a little bit down the line...
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: RobTheRover on June 24, 2019, 10:24:52 am
That is bizarre as 758 was my last three when I served in the RAF.

Its a sign!!!!!

Welcome Roy!
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: RoversAlias on June 24, 2019, 10:30:45 am
Keane is destructive, falls out with players, doesn't come across as a nice guy and doesn't have any success as a manager or coach on CV.

Evans would also be a shambles but i'd rather him than Keane, not sure what the appeal is, other than media coverage.

Keane won the Championship with Sunderland, and kept them up the following year. Granted, this was over ten years ago in his first years as a manager, but it is success nonetheless.

I can see him being in the running at the very least, whether or not it's a good move fo DRFC or not.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Move DRFC on June 24, 2019, 10:47:19 am
Keane is destructive, falls out with players, doesn't come across as a nice guy and doesn't have any success as a manager or coach on CV.

Evans would also be a shambles but i'd rather him than Keane, not sure what the appeal is, other than media coverage.

Keane won the Championship with Sunderland, and kept them up the following year. Granted, this was over ten years ago in his first years as a manager, but it is success nonetheless.

I can see him being in the running at the very least, whether or not it's a good move fo DRFC or not.

Fair play. To be honest I had no idea he promoted Sunderland.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: RobTheRover on June 24, 2019, 11:17:21 am
With over 100 points too, IIRC
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on June 24, 2019, 11:24:44 am
Roy Keane.........the thinking man’s Steve Evans!
  :)
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: RobTheRover on June 24, 2019, 11:28:56 am
With over 100 points too, IIRC

88 points, ignore me.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on June 24, 2019, 11:32:24 am
I just can't see him being a good fit even if he did fancy the job. Can't help thinking it would be more about him rather than DRFC.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 24, 2019, 11:39:15 am
When Ferguson was appointed I thought he was probably the best pick of an average list of applicants.
That didn’t turn out too well on the first team front but he did sign some good players.
A couple of years on and we had another list of candidates and this time I totally sat on the fence when it was asked who did i think would do the best job for us.
McCann did a great job and really united the fans and the players and there seemed to be a great connection between us all.
I am not happy about the circumstances in which he has moved on given all his words about........well we all know what about......but he has gone and we move on.
I have read through a number of lists telling me who our new manager might be and in all honesty there are some names there that I don’t believe we have a chance of getting and from the remainder, no one excites me.
However, McCanns appointment didn’t this time last year so I am very open minded about who we get and I will support the new bloke.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Bezza on June 24, 2019, 03:33:42 pm
Roy Keane eh ! Maybe worth a gamble, would certainly get  interest, and the Fleetwood game would be good.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: MachoMadness on June 24, 2019, 03:52:04 pm
Roy Keane eh ! Maybe worth a gamble, would certainly get  interest, and the Fleetwood game would be good.
I get the impression owd Joey would phone in sick if that were to happen!
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Campsall rover on June 24, 2019, 04:16:31 pm
Positives : Well it would put the club on the map having such a high profile name. He won’t stand any nonsense and he will demand 100% from everyone at the club at all times.

Negatives : His man management skills are in question.
Can he get the best out of players who don’t have anywhere near the ability he had?
His track record as a no 1 is not great. Decent at Sunderland, poor at Ipswich where (reading between the lines) was not popular or even respected by the players.

Is he a good fit for Rovers? Absolutely no idea at all.
But I would be surprised if he was interested in the first place and would be also surprised if he was considered by the board as a candidate.
Too much risk factor in him i would imagine.




Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 24, 2019, 04:20:09 pm
He lives in Woodbridge in Suffolk so it would be a long commute for him.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 24, 2019, 04:24:42 pm
His odds are coming down, could be something init
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: MachoMadness on June 24, 2019, 04:29:28 pm
He lives in Woodbridge in Suffolk so it would be a long commute for him.
He's done alright for himself, I'm sure he can afford an end terrace in Stainy or summat.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 24, 2019, 04:35:13 pm
He lives in Woodbridge in Suffolk so it would be a long commute for him.
He's done alright for himself, I'm sure he can afford an end terrace in Stainy or summat.





I am sure you are right but he would be away from his young family five or six days a week.
I don’t think he would risk moving them in with him.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 24, 2019, 04:52:56 pm
His odds are coming down, could be something init

Now the new favourite
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Prez on June 24, 2019, 04:55:21 pm
Could you imagine Roy Keane at meet the owners?

Hands up all those who would ask him a question.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 24, 2019, 04:58:22 pm
His odds are coming down, could be something init







Not according to another thread, Flitcroft to start work on 1st July.......apparently !
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Campsall rover on June 24, 2019, 05:04:19 pm
Could you imagine Roy Keane at meet the owners?

Hands up all those who would ask him a question.
Can you imagine his reaction when he gets asked one of those really stupid questions that come up at every meeting. I can just see his face now.
In fact I think he would leap over the table and lamp him one. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Filo on June 24, 2019, 05:21:38 pm
He lives in Woodbridge in Suffolk so it would be a long commute for him.
He's done alright for himself, I'm sure he can afford an end terrace in Stainy or summat.

😂😂😂😂😂

Not many terraced houses round these parts, most are semi’s or detached 😝
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 24, 2019, 05:51:47 pm
He lives in Woodbridge in Suffolk so it would be a long commute for him.
He's done alright for himself, I'm sure he can afford an end terrace in Stainy or summat.

😂😂😂😂😂

Not many terraced houses round these parts, most are semi’s or detached 😝






Come on Filo.
There are plenty of terraced houses in Stainforth.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Filo on June 24, 2019, 05:57:38 pm
He lives in Woodbridge in Suffolk so it would be a long commute for him.
He's done alright for himself, I'm sure he can afford an end terrace in Stainy or summat.

😂😂😂😂😂

Not many terraced houses round these parts, most are semi’s or detached 😝






Come on Filo.
There are plenty of terraced houses in Stainforth.

Not where I live
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Campsall rover on June 24, 2019, 06:04:34 pm
There must be another Stainforth. 
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 24, 2019, 06:16:01 pm
There must be another Stainforth.






There is.........it is near Settle.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 24, 2019, 06:18:50 pm
He lives in Woodbridge in Suffolk so it would be a long commute for him.
He's done alright for himself, I'm sure he can afford an end terrace in Stainy or summat.

😂😂😂😂😂

Not many terraced houses round these parts, most are semi’s or detached 😝






Come on Filo.
There are plenty of terraced houses in Stainforth.

Not where I live






Loads on Kirton Lane, Thorne Road, Field Road, and opposite the school and Police station(don’t know what that road is called).
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: idler on June 24, 2019, 07:04:05 pm
If every other house is boarded up then they are all semis or detached:and no noisy neighbours.😉
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 24, 2019, 08:47:08 pm
Thinking Keane being appointed manager...does this give an incentive for someone like Marquis to stay? I’m sure footballers would love to work with ex players of someone of Keane’s quality.

Just a thought
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Campsall rover on June 24, 2019, 09:02:43 pm
Thinking Keane being appointed manager...does this give an incentive for someone like Marquis to stay? I’m sure footballers would love to work with ex players of someone of Keane’s quality.

Just a thought
Agreed, usually players would be delighted to have a manager who was a great player.
But Roy Keane comes across to me as someone who will criticise players in such a way that it becomes de motivational. I just don’t think he has the right man management skills to be successful.
To start with he needs to learn to smile. Don’t think I have ever seen that.
Not for me far too much of a risk and he wouldn’t come cheap would he ( not saying we should get someone on the cheap before someone has a Pop ) so may possibly be a very expensive mistake.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: MachoMadness on June 24, 2019, 09:33:17 pm
Thinking Keane being appointed manager...does this give an incentive for someone like Marquis to stay? I’m sure footballers would love to work with ex players of someone of Keane’s quality.

Just a thought
This is probably true. He'd instantly command the respect of the dressing room, that's for sure. It'd be up to him to keep that respect, which he didn't seem to do at Ipswich, but you'd imagine any self respecting footballer would want to learn a few things from him at first.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: southwestexile on June 24, 2019, 10:08:47 pm
It's all a smokescreen, we're getting Benitez
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Draytonian III on June 24, 2019, 10:12:19 pm
He was a brilliant footballer, but a very poor manager, he would be barking out orders to the players in training and on a match day, forgetting the players are 3 tier standard. Anyone who questioned him rightly or wrongly would be gone. He’s another case of a superb player being a shitte manager 
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: knockers on June 24, 2019, 10:49:41 pm
I think it would be an interesting, crazy ride and most enjoyable with Keane in charge.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: jamesrover17 on June 24, 2019, 10:52:09 pm
I would love, even if it was just one season just to see the crazy shenanigans having someone like Roy Keane in charge would be like...
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: redarmi66 on June 24, 2019, 11:12:47 pm
From wiki 😂😂
Doncaster Rovers manager 2019 to present Roy Maurice Keane (born 10 August 1971) is an Irish football manager and former professional player. He is the joint-most successful Irish footballer of all time, having won 19 major trophies, 17 of which came at Manchester United, in his club career.[3] He served as the assistant manager of the Republic of Ireland national team from 2013 until 2018.[4]
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: phil old leake on June 25, 2019, 09:33:16 am
I’d think he’d be more interested in the Newcastle job
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: southwestexile on June 25, 2019, 09:35:50 am
that's what I was thinking, it's a bit like the story us getting Tevez a few seasons back
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: phil old leake on June 25, 2019, 09:52:32 am
It would be a difficult decision for him Newcastle or Rovers
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 25, 2019, 10:26:03 am
Seems more than a coincidence he left Forest a few days before the Newcastle job became available.

However the more I think about it the more I like the appointment.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Lesonthewest on June 25, 2019, 12:19:40 pm
He lives in Woodbridge in Suffolk so it would be a long commute for him.
He's done alright for himself, I'm sure he can afford an end terrace in Stainy or summat.

If he could afford it he would be with the salt of the earth with us Stainy folk.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: RobTheRover on June 25, 2019, 12:24:29 pm
that's what I was thinking, it's a bit like the story us getting Tevez a few seasons back

Yeah, sorry about that.  That badly photoshopped picture of Carlos in a Rovers shirt set The Sun off running. Apologies everyone.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: MachoMadness on June 25, 2019, 01:13:11 pm
Possibly the best claim to fame anyone on this forum has that, Rob.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: mushRTID on June 25, 2019, 06:37:28 pm
Thinking Keane being appointed manager...does this give an incentive for someone like Marquis to stay? I’m sure footballers would love to work with ex players of someone of Keane’s quality.

Just a thought

I think it’s clear John has his heart set on a move whoever the manager is
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Donnyjim on June 25, 2019, 09:37:38 pm
Roy Keane appears for be the new bookies favourite at 7/4. There is obviously a bit in this?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Nudga on June 25, 2019, 09:39:31 pm
Roy Keane appears for be the new bookies favourite at 7/4. There is obviously a bit in this?

No, no there isn't.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 25, 2019, 09:39:58 pm
Roy Keane appears for be the new bookies favourite at 7/4. There is obviously a bit in this?

I thought that but after looking on Twitter there is an "ITK" who is claiming Keane is in talks with the board which is probably fuelling the low price. Hoden has said that the board are adhering to the Friday deadline.

So i now no longer think there is anything in the short price.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on June 25, 2019, 10:19:50 pm
I would be stunned if he dropped to our level. You would not give up a good job to come here surely?

A convenient smokescreen?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 25, 2019, 10:25:36 pm
I would be stunned if he dropped to our level. You would not give up a good job to come here surely?

A convenient smokescreen?

He is probably going to have to take League One job to build his managerial reputation. I don't think any Champtionship club would take him.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: NickDRFC on June 25, 2019, 10:27:02 pm
I would be stunned if he dropped to our level. You would not give up a good job to come here surely?

A convenient smokescreen?

Why would it be such a stunning appointment? Going from assistant at a mid-table Championship club to manager at an aspiring Championship club is hardly unheard of.

Even if you look at his last managerial appointment, that was at Ipswich. He failed at a bottom half Championship club, stands to reason that he might need to drop a level to get a management gig again.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: selby on June 25, 2019, 10:33:21 pm
  I think Manchester United are in need of his character in their dressing room more than us at the moment, at least he would bring a couple of ego's down to earth with a bump.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 25, 2019, 10:41:12 pm
People who will 100pc not be our manager: Evans, Hughton, Adkins, Keane.

People much more likely to be our manager: Appleton, Flynn, Grayson.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: dickos1 on June 25, 2019, 11:25:18 pm
Why would It 100% not be Adkins
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 26, 2019, 06:45:35 am
He last managed in League One nine seasons ago. His last four clubs have been Blades, Reading, Hull and Southampton. When he was in Championship last season he easily kept Hull up by 22 points and won a Championship manager of the month award. He is not going to be coming to a League One play off contender.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: NewDonny on June 26, 2019, 06:53:06 am
Would you really quit a job to apply for another?

Yes, if as he says it's to fulfill a demure to be a Manager and not an Assistant Manger role, why not?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: DearneValleyRover on June 26, 2019, 07:54:34 am
Why would It 100% not be Adkins

I think it's because the general feeling is, he is partly responsible for engineering McCann's move to Hull.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: DRNaith on June 26, 2019, 10:03:21 am
Would you really quit a job to apply for another?

Yes, if as he says it's to fulfill a demure to be a Manager and not an Assistant Manger role, why not?

Yep, another world. Anywhere I am you would see the person fulfilling their current duties and maintaining an income until they have another position sorted.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: MachoMadness on June 26, 2019, 10:09:49 am
Liam Hoden's Tweet last night makes me think Keane isn't in the running now. Although I suppose he doesn't know any more than we do at this stage.

https://twitter.com/liamhoden/status/1143609790800834561?s=20
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on June 26, 2019, 10:40:45 am
Was never in the running. Him leaving Forest was just coincidence!

Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Boomstick on June 26, 2019, 10:41:13 am
I'm expecting another 'cheap option'
No chance it being Keane or adkins.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on June 26, 2019, 10:56:28 am
Was never in the running. Him leaving Forest was just coincidence!



Agree, a welcome distraction though for the board in some ways but unfortunately the actual appointment will now be seen as underwhelming I'm sure.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: sha66y on June 26, 2019, 10:56:35 am
I'm expecting another 'cheap option'
No chance it being Keane or adkins.

Explain “ cheap”
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Boomstick on June 26, 2019, 11:09:03 am
I'm expecting another 'cheap option'
No chance it being Keane or adkins.

Explain “ cheap”
It's the opposite of expensive lad
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: IDM on June 26, 2019, 11:10:32 am
He means in the context of a managerial appointment..

Who do you think is cheap.? And I may be wrong but it looks like a dig at the board..
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Boomstick on June 26, 2019, 11:16:00 am
He means in the context of a managerial appointment..

Who do you think is cheap.? And I may be wrong but it looks like a dig at the board..
Nothing of the sort, I know what to expect, but some will perceive it as a cheap option after hearing Keane and adkins names flown about.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: pib on June 26, 2019, 12:08:29 pm
It's not the board's fault that Keane and Adkins' names have been flying about though. It's 100% speculation and I'd say neither are probably realistic targets.

I'd be glad to avoid Keane anyway and think we'd be dodging a bullet. Other managers might be more "underwhelming" in terms of their profile/fame but from a managerial perspective I'd be more underwhelmed by Keane than some other lower-profile managers.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Boomstick on June 26, 2019, 12:20:18 pm
It's not the boards fault, but I'd say a few need to manage their expectations
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Jonathan on June 26, 2019, 12:23:51 pm
It's not the boards fault, but I'd say a few need to manage their expectations

Just out of interest, if you were a board member and tasked with speaking out to manage expectations, how would you go about that? What public statement would you release over and above the clarity that has already been provided around the entire recruitment process and expected timeframes?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 26, 2019, 12:27:14 pm
But who are the high calibre managers that enquired before GM left. Maybe we will employ one we will see. Maybe the players we were talking to will still be waiting. Mind if they are unknown like the last signing it will be uninspiring. We still have not replaced Marosi, Butler and Rowe yet with the Calibre of player we require. Still need to replace Kane and Wilks they could be loans that may have already been agreed or not.  So manager then players we all wait with baited breath.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Boomstick on June 26, 2019, 12:30:10 pm
It's not the boards fault, but I'd say a few need to manage their expectations

Just out of interest, if you were a board member and tasked with speaking out to manage expectations, how would you go about that? What public statement would you release over and above the clarity that has already been provided around the entire recruitment process and expected timeframes?
I'd leak it to Liam hoden, which it looks like they have done.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: DRFCSouth on June 26, 2019, 12:30:46 pm
Why is Keane out of the realms of possibility? Had he not been linked with Newcastle many would say this is a good option to to get back into management. You have to wonder why Newcastle wouldn’t go for someone with more pedigree.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 26, 2019, 12:34:04 pm
But who are the high calibre managers that enquired before GM left. Maybe we will employ one we will see. Maybe the players we were talking to will still be waiting. Mind if they are unknown like the last signing it will be uninspiring. We still have not replaced Marosi, Butler and Rowe yet with the Calibre of player we require. Still need to replace Kane and Wilks they could be loans that may have already been agreed or not.  So manager then players we all wait with baited breath.






Rowe hasn’t left yet and it doesn’t appear that we will be replacing Marosi.
There are still five weeks left to the start of the season so not panic stations (yet).
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: drfchound on June 26, 2019, 12:37:10 pm
Would you really quit a job to apply for another?

Yes, if as he says it's to fulfill a demure to be a Manager and not an Assistant Manger role, why not?

Yep, another world. Anywhere I am you would see the person fulfilling their current duties and maintaining an income until they have another position sorted.






Keane does live in a different world to us though.
He will have plenty of income from other sources and in reality, won’t be dependant on whatever salary he was getting from Forest.

Ferguson quit the Rovers without another job in football to go straight in to didn’t he?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Draytonian III on June 26, 2019, 12:41:40 pm
Keane is a summariser on tv during week , London,Manchester,Liverpool,Barcelona,Munich etc , can’t see him being interested in a Check a trade away fixture at Grimsby in November
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 26, 2019, 01:01:09 pm
But who are the high calibre managers that enquired before GM left. Maybe we will employ one we will see. Maybe the players we were talking to will still be waiting. Mind if they are unknown like the last signing it will be uninspiring. We still have not replaced Marosi, Butler and Rowe yet with the Calibre of player we require. Still need to replace Kane and Wilks they could be loans that may have already been agreed or not.  So manager then players we all wait with baited breath.






Rowe hasn’t left yet and it doesn’t appear that we will be replacing Marosi.
There are still five weeks left to the start of the season so not panic stations (yet).

I am not panicking if we don’t replace Marosi we will not be strong enough Jones is not ready for a side aiming for promotion again.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Retdon1 on June 26, 2019, 01:11:48 pm
But who are the high calibre managers that enquired before GM left. Maybe we will employ one we will see. Maybe the players we were talking to will still be waiting. Mind if they are unknown like the last signing it will be uninspiring. We still have not replaced Marosi, Butler and Rowe yet with the Calibre of player we require. Still need to replace Kane and Wilks they could be loans that may have already been agreed or not.  So manager then players we all wait with baited breath.






Rowe hasn’t left yet and it doesn’t appear that we will be replacing Marosi.
There are still five weeks left to the start of the season so not panic stations (yet).

I am not panicking if we don’t replace Marosi we will not be strong enough Jones is not ready for a side aiming for promotion again.

We can bring in an emergency loan if lawlor was to get injured.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: dijit8 on June 26, 2019, 01:25:12 pm
I wonder if the keeper Hull signed from QPR was the one when McCann originally said he was looking to bring in a keeper.



Title: Re: Keane
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 26, 2019, 01:28:48 pm
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I wonder if the keeper Hull signed from QPR was the one when McCann originally said he was looking to bring in a keeper.


GM said early doors he had been nearly there to sign a Keeper and CH after he allowed Marosi and Butler to leave then all of a sudden Change of heart. When signing Jones he said he would need 1year in the development squad to be ready to fight for first team place, then a change of heart.

Building a new promotion side by letting players go first then a change of heart because he’s ambitious.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: silent majority on June 26, 2019, 01:43:31 pm
It seems that GM has a change of heart quite often.

Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Campsall rover on June 26, 2019, 01:51:13 pm
I'm expecting another 'cheap option'
No chance it being Keane or adkins.
There’s a surprise then!
Wouldn’t expect you to say any different.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Campsall rover on June 26, 2019, 01:59:51 pm
But who are the high calibre managers that enquired before GM left. Maybe we will employ one we will see. Maybe the players we were talking to will still be waiting. Mind if they are unknown like the last signing it will be uninspiring. We still have not replaced Marosi, Butler and Rowe yet with the Calibre of player we require. Still need to replace Kane and Wilks they could be loans that may have already been agreed or not.  So manager then players we all wait with baited breath.






Rowe hasn’t left yet and it doesn’t appear that we will be replacing Marosi.
There are still five weeks left to the start of the season so not panic stations (yet).

I am not panicking if we don’t replace Marosi we will not be strong enough Jones is not ready for a side aiming for promotion again.
How do you know Jones isn’t ready. Are you his coach? If the Manager ( ex manager ) and goalkeeping coach think he is ready then I would suggest he IS ready.
I think they will know more than you or me don’t you?
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on June 26, 2019, 02:02:41 pm
For there to be either cheap or expensive options, there has to be options. Keane and most likely Adkins were never options.

Neither are managers I would go out and head hunt. Adkins is likely looking for something higher up the pyramid and in my opinion would not be hungry enough to operate with a relatively smaller budget. Been there done that.

Darren Moore could probably earn more as a coach somewhere and again, he probably thinks Championship or Premiership if he wants to get back into management.

Reality check folks.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 26, 2019, 02:33:09 pm
But who are the high calibre managers that enquired before GM left. Maybe we will employ one we will see. Maybe the players we were talking to will still be waiting. Mind if they are unknown like the last signing it will be uninspiring. We still have not replaced Marosi, Butler and Rowe yet with the Calibre of player we require. Still need to replace Kane and Wilks they could be loans that may have already been agreed or not.  So manager then players we all wait with baited breath.






Rowe hasn’t left yet and it doesn’t appear that we will be replacing Marosi.
There are still five weeks left to the start of the season so not panic stations (yet).

I am not panicking if we don’t replace Marosi we will not be strong enough Jones is not ready for a side aiming for promotion again.
How do you know Jones isn’t ready. Are you his coach? If the Manager ( ex manager ) and goalkeeping coach think he is ready then I would suggest he IS ready.
I think they will know more than you or me don’t you?

How many times did you watch U23 games? Also why say in a matter of about a week he was in discussion with a Keeper and it was nearly there to Jones will be second choice and another a keeper was low priority there hadn’t been any games or training in that period.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: scawsby steve on June 26, 2019, 04:58:24 pm
For there to be either cheap or expensive options, there has to be options. Keane and most likely Adkins were never options.

Neither are managers I would go out and head hunt. Adkins is likely looking for something higher up the pyramid and in my opinion would not be hungry enough to operate with a relatively smaller budget. Been there done that.

Darren Moore could probably earn more as a coach somewhere and again, he probably thinks Championship or Premiership if he wants to get back into management.

Reality check folks.

I agree with a lot of that Baz, but f*ck me that reality check doesn't leave much from that list.

I think I'm going to have to get on the phone to my old mate Jimmy Golze and ask him what he's doing these days.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Wild Rover on June 26, 2019, 05:10:35 pm
When it comes to RK or DM or really any NAMED prospective manager candidate it may be worth remembering that in the past we have had Billy Bremner ( twice ) Dave McKay, Joe Kinnear ,Maurice Setters and others, so lets not dismiss the notion of a "name" being employed.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: NickDRFC on June 26, 2019, 05:47:27 pm
When it comes to RK or DM or really any NAMED prospective manager candidate it may be worth remembering that in the past we have had Billy Bremner ( twice ) Dave McKay, Joe Kinnear ,Maurice Setters and others, so lets not dismiss the notion of a "name" being employed.

Not sure I’d agree with much of that - we were the first managerial post for Kinnear, Bremner and Setters and arguably only Kinnear achieved much success as a manager away from the Rovers. Mackay I’ll give you was a name but he was coming back from several years in the Middle East with a winding down career.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Wild Rover on June 26, 2019, 05:52:21 pm
Did I mention success, or even first club manager. I said they were names who DRFC had employed as manager, so not to dismiss another because he was / is a name.

Plus I suppose you can add the "names" of Dean Saunders and Paul Dickov .
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: NickDRFC on June 26, 2019, 07:56:06 pm
Did I mention success, or even first club manager. I said they were names who DRFC had employed as manager, so not to dismiss another because he was / is a name.

Plus I suppose you can add the "names" of Dean Saunders and Paul Dickov .

That's irrelevant though - these people were "names" because of playing careers. The reason people are dismissing Roy Keane as a possibility has nothing to do with the fact that he spent his playing career at Manchester United, it's because he's spent his entire managerial career in the Premier League or Championship.
Title: Re: Keane
Post by: Wild Rover on June 27, 2019, 08:41:42 am
That too is Irrelevant, as RK has spent a long time as a second in command, he therefore may want to "Start afresh".