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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: SydneyRover on May 30, 2020, 12:11:00 pm
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If similar happened in business it would be described as fraud?
If this had happened Call for inquiry into why senior Tory helped donor avoid £40m tax
Labour has urged the Cabinet Office to investigate why the housing secretary intervened in a controversial London planning decision that could have saved a Conservative party donor tens of millions of pounds.
Robert Jenrick, the housing, communities and local government secretary, knew that the former media tycoon Richard Desmond had only 24 hours to have an East End property development approved before hefty community charges were imposed on the billionaire’s project. The imposition of Tower Hamlets council’s community infrastructure levy (CIL) would have cost Desmond at least £40m.
Jenrick later accepted that approval of the Isle of Dogs project was unlawful.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/30/call-for-inquiry-into-why-senior-tory-robert-jenrick-helped-donor-avoid-40m-tax
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Of course there's a reason why Jenrick can't be referred to the police - it's because Dominic Cummings says so!
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I would have thought that anyone could or even the police use their initiative and do the obvious without being asked kato, he's admitted what was done wasn't lawful.
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... and this was / is Grant Shapps another proven liar - although to be fair he did not admit it but used a phrase that he "over firmly denied" the accusation that he had a job under an assumed name whilst an MP. Read it please
These people should NEVER be anywhere near Goverment
Denials of pseudonym and second job
Shapps's use of the names Michael Green and Sebastian Fox attracted controversy in 2012. He denied having used a pseudonym after entering parliament and, in 2014, threatened legal action against a constituent who had stated on Facebook that he had. In February 2015 he told LBC Radio presenter Shelagh Fogarty, "Let me get this absolutely clear ... I don't have a second job and have never had a second job while being an MP. End of story."[71]
However, in March 2015, Shapps admitted to having had a second job whilst being an MP, and practising business under a pseudonym.[72][73] In his admission, he stated that he had "over-firmly denied" having a second job.[74] Under the name Michael Green, Shapps had offered customers a "get-rich-quick scheme" costing $497, and promised customers a "toolkit" that would earn them $20,000 in 20 days, provided they followed its instructions.[75] In March 2015, Dean Archer, the constituent previously threatened with legal action by Shapps, threatened Shapps with legal action.[76][77]
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... and this was / is Grant Shapps another proven liar - although to be fair he did not admit it but used a phrase that he "over firmly denied" the accusation that he had a job under an assumed name whilst an MP. Read it please
These people should NEVER be anywhere near Goverment
Denials of pseudonym and second job
Shapps's use of the names Michael Green and Sebastian Fox attracted controversy in 2012. He denied having used a pseudonym after entering parliament and, in 2014, threatened legal action against a constituent who had stated on Facebook that he had. In February 2015 he told LBC Radio presenter Shelagh Fogarty, "Let me get this absolutely clear ... I don't have a second job and have never had a second job while being an MP. End of story."[71]
However, in March 2015, Shapps admitted to having had a second job whilst being an MP, and practising business under a pseudonym.[72][73] In his admission, he stated that he had "over-firmly denied" having a second job.[74] Under the name Michael Green, Shapps had offered customers a "get-rich-quick scheme" costing $497, and promised customers a "toolkit" that would earn them $20,000 in 20 days, provided they followed its instructions.[75] In March 2015, Dean Archer, the constituent previously threatened with legal action by Shapps, threatened Shapps with legal action.[76][77]
How do you over firmly deny something, you either admit or deny it, it’s that simple
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In an interview with Sky News on Wednesday, Jenrick told Adam Boulton the application was decided “on its merits” and done “without any actual bias”.
He added: “But clearly the way that the process was run gave rise to some concerns and so that’s why we’ve chosen to quash the decision.”
why is the Guardian so late with this story ???
nice to see that name "Westferry" mentioned again "NOT" although one has nowt to do with the other.
http://www.plparchitecture.com/westferry-printworks.html
"The Westferry Printworks masterplan embodies the transformative nature of the Isle of Dogs, delivering a much-needed regeneration of the site of the former printworks, turning an underutilised industrial block along the northern edge of the Millwall Outer Dock into a lively new green urban quarter."
shame Tower Hamlets can't force the flats of be marketed as "Millwall" flats
https://www.building.co.uk/news/government-quashes-westferry-printworks-permission-due-to-jenricks-bias/5106197.article
"Former Express Newspapers proprietor Richard Desmond is the owner of the scheme’s developer, Northern & Shell, and a former donor to both the Conservative Party and UKIP."
"The scheme of five towers rising to as much as 44 stories, was appealed by Northern and Shell for non-determination in March last year, and was called in by the secretary shortly after, prior to Tower Hamlets saying it would have rejected the application anyway. The inspector recommended the scheme be turned down due to the “unacceptable” level of affordable housing proposed and the impact on nearby heritage."
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Desmond sold his the Express and Star titles two years ago. The 68-year-old billionaire’s company Northern & Shell, which is behind the Isle of Dogs development, donated £10,000 to the Conservatives in 2017 and £1m to Ukip in 2015.
Conclusion
If £10,000 can get all that alleged "influence" maybe CLH can get "a result" from a fiva donation.
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I would have thought that anyone could or even the police use their initiative and do the obvious without being asked kato, he's admitted what was done wasn't lawful.
Not when, at a top level, they are in the pockets of the government!
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on the subject of "we appreciate the speed as we don’t want to give Marxists loads of doe [sic] for nothing!” "
about the time of the above postings CLH totally by had reason to come across an address of a "client"
living at Harry Zeital Way, London E5 and in view of the uproar ...... (see above)
out of interest decided to check out his address obviously Harry Zeital was a pillar of society , etc etc . Without being disrespectful the name gives a clue to his possible origin
and obviously he deserved to have a road named after him.
The London Borough in question appears to be Hackney ( yes the one that you had to take to court when they refused to honour thr governmental right to buy policy yonks ago nearly 40 from memory)
googling came across this allegedly it is the same "Harry Zeital" ??
https://menwhosaidno.org/men/men_files/z/zeital_harry.html
"HARRY ZEITAL1882 -
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Harry and Morris Zeital were living in east London when the war started in 1914. As both members of a Jewish family that had been persecuted in Russia and committed socialists they had several reasons for objecting to war. In 1916 both were married with children. Morris, the elder of the two, was not conscripted as officially he was a Russian citizen. His younger cousin, Harry, was and, as an absolutist, quickly found himself in prison. Morris may have become eligible for conscription in 1917, when the Administration of Allied Aliens came into law - a punitive bill aimed squarely at London's Jewish community."
so that's how Hackney name their streets ???
perhaps "Rodney Marsh Way" might have been a better choice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Footballers_from_Hackney,_London
https://web.archive.org/web/2018*/https://menwhosaidno.org/men/men_files/z/zeital_harry.html
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Jenrick again.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/exclusive-robert-jenrick-new-cash-favours-row/
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All perfectly legal and above board to overrule local planning officials again. I wonder what could have persuaded him to assist the developer here....
Property developer Mark Quinn made major donations to the Conservatives directly before and after Jenrick chose to take responsibility for deciding on Quinn’s bid to build 675 houses in Sittingbourne, Kent.
Shortly before Jenrick became involved in the decision, the developer, Quinn Estates, gave £11,000 to the Conservatives. Less than three weeks later, the firm donated a further £26,500 to the party.
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All perfectly legal and above board to overrule local planning officials again. I wonder what could have persuaded him to assist the developer here....
THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
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I don’t know what Newark ever did wrong. Our last 3 MPs all started out very involved in the town, gradually disappeared from local view as their stars rose and then did something disgraceful - Jenrick (C) Patrick Mercer (C) and Fiona Jones (L)
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Doesn’t Patrick Mercer still live local to Newark ?
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You think you've got it bad, my MP is none other than the Chief Whip!!!!
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Doesn’t Patrick Mercer still live local to Newark ?
He is still around here, immersed back into his military history writing
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He was living at Normanton on Trent the last I heard
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Sorry, Draytonian...I should have said that I'm a Newark resident so "around here" is Normanton
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There’s a pub in Normanton on Trent with a very low ceiling, The Square and Compass it’s a few years since I was in it . Likewise with the Indian restaurant at Muskham that used to be a pub and a swingers meet up place ,I only went in when it was the pub !!!
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There’s a pub in Normanton on Trent with a very low ceiling, The Square and Compass it’s a few years since I was in it . Likewise with the Indian restaurant at Muskham that used to be a pub and a swingers meet up place ,I only went in when it was the pub !!!
Which was also a swingers meet up place?
Check ya keys quickly.....
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''Some of England's most deprived towns left out of £3.6bn funding scheme
Labour accuse government of prioritising marginal seats over where money was most needed''
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/21/some-of-englands-most-deprived-towns-left-out-of-36bn-funding-scheme
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More detail on that Towns Fund scandal here.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/how-ministers-gave-cheadle-25m-18632374.amp
tl:dr. Towns were split into High, Medium and Low priority bands. Several Medium Priority towns weren't funded. 13 Low Priority towns were...every one was in a Tory marginal seat, or a Lab marginal that the Tories were targeting. They won all 13 seats in December.
Examples in that article are that leafy, Tory Cheadle was funded, and higher priority safe Labour towns like Wigan and Swinton were rejected.
But do any Tory supporters care any more? Seems the zeitgeist is that nothing matters as long as you win. No legality. No morality. Just win and use the fact that you won to address any criticism.
When did this country lose its moral compass to this extent? It really has not always been this way. But it WILL be this way from now on if no-one cares anymore.
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''Housing Secretary Robert Jenrick has said he regrets sitting next to Tory donor Richard Desmond at a fundraiser and sending him text messages.
Mr Jenrick has been under fire over his contacts with the tycoon, who donated money to the party after a new housing development was given the go-ahead''
"But I don't regret the decision, because I think it was right to get housing built on a brownfield site on a part of London that desperately needs it''
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53677511
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''Housing Secretary Robert Jenrick has said he regrets sitting next to Tory donor Richard Desmond at a fundraiser and sending him text messages.
Mr Jenrick has been under fire over his contacts with the tycoon, who donated money to the party after a new housing development was given the go-ahead''
"But I don't regret the decision, because I think it was right to get housing built on a brownfield site on a part of London that desperately needs it''
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53677511
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What he means is he regrets being caught out
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What he regrets is (probably) having to say he regrets anything
IMO he has no other "regrets"