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normal rules

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Stadium roof design fault?
« on March 12, 2013, 06:00:58 pm by normal rules »
An oversight perhaps by at the planning stage of the ground given the aspect and sun position not to put a see through perspex roof on the West Stand, thereby allowing for that side of the pitch which is vulnerable to get sun like the rest of the pitch. Alot of the new stadia seem to have perspex type roofs to allow for this to happen.

Wonder if they considered that at the time.

Wonder if that part of the roof could be converted, obviously at a cost.

Bit late now of course but we have fallen foul of this a few times now. Not the first and wont be the last.
Personally i was looking forward to tonight, but wont miss the three hr round trip and a cold night. Heres hoping for a re-scedule in a month when its a bit warmer and theres some grass on the pitch!



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jonnydog

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #1 on March 12, 2013, 06:39:54 pm by jonnydog »
It would probably be pricey to convert now, though thats just assumation as i have no idea on construction of stadia. im sure someone on here is or was in that line of work. maybe they could shed some light on it (totally intentional pun!!)

I do miss the fact we no longer have one of the best pitches in the country like we used to at BV.

... God, how I miss Belle Vue!!

donnievic

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #2 on March 12, 2013, 06:40:06 pm by donnievic »
I thought it was the south stand

River Don

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #3 on March 12, 2013, 06:43:15 pm by River Don »
I seem to remember some discussion on this while the stadium was being planned. Around about the time they had to abandon the original 'floating roof' design.

I think a clear roof would have been more expensive and wouldn't last as long. Perhaps a clear section above the south stand only would have been good.

drfcsteve

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #4 on March 12, 2013, 06:55:43 pm by drfcsteve »
I wonder if we'd have had the same problem with the original nicer looking stadium design? I wouldn't be surprised if it was something the council didn't consider though.

The L J Monk

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #5 on March 12, 2013, 07:03:46 pm by The L J Monk »
Which existing "bowl" stadiums have got transparent roofs?

DN8ROVER

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #6 on March 12, 2013, 07:06:10 pm by DN8ROVER »
Which existing "bowl" stadiums have got transparent roofs?
Part of the roof at Swansea is transparent.

pubteam

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #7 on March 12, 2013, 07:09:11 pm by pubteam »
Which existing "bowl" stadiums have got transparent roofs?

I think the Liberty Stadium, the New York Stadium and the Franchise Bowl all have parts of the roof transparent.

EDIT: Oh - and the new Brighton ground.

The L J Monk

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #8 on March 12, 2013, 07:17:00 pm by The L J Monk »
Right, we'll have to groundshare with one of them. MK Dons should be easiest to convince, they have no scruples.

pubteam

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #9 on March 12, 2013, 07:37:39 pm by pubteam »
Maybe we should have a whip-round to buy a lorry load of cling film?

normal rules

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #10 on March 12, 2013, 07:40:19 pm by normal rules »
Most annoying that Lincoln City's game tonight is on. Only difference is there stands don't overshadow the pitch.

River Don

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #11 on March 12, 2013, 07:45:33 pm by River Don »
Coventry City, has a transparent roof too I think.

jonnydog

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #12 on March 12, 2013, 07:56:56 pm by jonnydog »
What... The whole city ;)

River Don

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #13 on March 12, 2013, 08:11:11 pm by River Don »
What... The whole city ;)

Coventry would probably be a more popular place to live if it had a giant roof over it...

It'd look a bit like the city from Logans Run but more grim. Perhaps it wouldn't be so popular if when you reached the age of 30 you flew in to the air to be incinerated, though it would make different halftime entertainment.

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #14 on March 12, 2013, 08:46:19 pm by LincolnDonny »
Sorry but your wrong, Lincolns South Park Stand overshadows the pitch by about 20yards  (most of goal end)

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #15 on March 12, 2013, 09:39:20 pm by weststander »
I live about 8 miles from Sincil Bank and my back garden is north facing so my lawn is in shade for nearly the whole day. Despite this all traces of snow/ice disappeared after our game was called off so must be a difference in temperature...well we are nearer the equator, just

normal rules

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #16 on March 12, 2013, 09:53:24 pm by normal rules »
even more reason why its annoying that the game at km is off. surely the overnight temps between donny and lincoln were not that different.

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #17 on March 12, 2013, 10:01:40 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Surely the issue is the covers? Buy a new clear cover, and then the old one can be used when we need to double up the tog rating.

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #18 on March 12, 2013, 10:14:12 pm by Lesonthewest »
If the roof is single skin sheeting as I believe it is, stripping existing & refitting a bank of same profile rooflights shouldn't be that costly. Then again it is a few years since I was in the game!

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #19 on March 12, 2013, 10:28:16 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
To recap then,

To avoid the postponement of one or two games a season/improve the pitch we:-

1. Change the alignment of the stadium
2. Change parts of the roof to a transparent covering
3. Install solar panels to become more self sufficient on power and offset the cost of running heat lamps.
4. Install and run undersoil heating
5. Use mirrors to re-direct sunlight to where it's needed.
6. Kick out any other sporting 'customer' who dare tread on 'our' pitch.
7. Install artificial grass
8. Send the groundstaff on a fact-finding mission to the Nou Camp

I think we should let Andy Thompson vote on his favoured option?



 

jonnydog

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #20 on March 12, 2013, 10:46:21 pm by jonnydog »
To recap then,

To avoid the postponement of one or two games a season/improve the pitch we:-

1. Change the alignment of the stadium
2. Change parts of the roof to a transparent covering
3. Install solar panels to become more self sufficient on power and offset the cost of running heat lamps.
4. Install and run undersoil heating
5. Use mirrors to re-direct sunlight to where it's needed.
6. Kick out any other sporting 'customer' who dare tread on 'our' pitch.
7. Install artificial grass
8. Send the groundstaff on a fact-finding mission to the Nou Camp

I think we should let Andy Thompson vote on his favoured option?



 




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dknward2

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #21 on March 12, 2013, 10:50:37 pm by dknward2 »
To recap then,

To avoid the postponement of one or two games a season/improve the pitch we:-

1. Change the alignment of the stadium
2. Change parts of the roof to a transparent covering
3. Install solar panels to become more self sufficient on power and offset the cost of running heat lamps.
4. Install and run undersoil heating
5. Use mirrors to re-direct sunlight to where it's needed.
6. Kick out any other sporting 'customer' who dare tread on 'our' pitch.
7. Install artificial grass
8. Send the groundstaff on a fact-finding mission to the Nou Camp

I think we should let Andy Thompson vote on his favoured option?

 


What only pick one, dammit man we should be doing all these, oh yeah and while we are at it why can't we move the sun over the keepmoat ffs its like it's a difficult job to do
« Last Edit: March 12, 2013, 10:59:31 pm by dknward2 »

bobjimwilly

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #22 on March 13, 2013, 09:46:03 am by bobjimwilly »
To recap then,

To avoid the postponement of one or two games a season/improve the pitch we:-

1. Change the alignment of the stadium
2. Change parts of the roof to a transparent covering
3. Install solar panels to become more self sufficient on power and offset the cost of running heat lamps.
4. Install and run undersoil heating
5. Use mirrors to re-direct sunlight to where it's needed.
6. Kick out any other sporting 'customer' who dare tread on 'our' pitch.
7. Install artificial grass
8. Send the groundstaff on a fact-finding mission to the Nou Camp

I think we should let Andy Thompson vote on his favoured option?


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Drover

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #23 on March 13, 2013, 11:07:21 am by Drover »
I seem to remember some discussion on this while the stadium was being planned. Around about the time they had to abandon the original 'floating roof' design.

I think a clear roof would have been more expensive and wouldn't last as long. Perhaps a clear section above the south stand only would have been good.

I remember such discussions when the Moat was being built,and I voiced my concerns on here about the roof not being transparent or part transparent like other new stadia seemed to be.I was shot down by a few posters and ultimately I think Andy Liney posted that with the new amended design,the roofs were lower and hence,there will be sufficient light for the pitch and transparent sections of roofing was not necessary.Don't think cost had that much to do with it.

RobTheRover

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #24 on March 13, 2013, 12:23:06 pm by RobTheRover »
To recap then,

To avoid the postponement of one or two games a season/improve the pitch we:-

1. Change the alignment of the stadium
2. Change parts of the roof to a transparent covering
3. Install solar panels to become more self sufficient on power and offset the cost of running heat lamps.
4. Install and run undersoil heating
5. Use mirrors to re-direct sunlight to where it's needed.
6. Kick out any other sporting 'customer' who dare tread on 'our' pitch.
7. Install artificial grass
8. Send the groundstaff on a fact-finding mission to the Nou Camp

I think we should let Andy Thompson vote on his favoured option?



 


You missed 9) Install undersoil heating at the South Stand end only as its only this bit that seems to freeze.

IDM

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Re: Stadium roof design fault?
« Reply #25 on March 13, 2013, 01:31:35 pm by IDM »


What only pick one, dammit man we should be doing all these, oh yeah and while we are at it why can't we move the sun over the keepmoat ffs its like it's a difficult job to do

Even Rob Jones has limits, I'm sure he could reposition the sun, but I doubt he could do this whilst playing.. oh, hang on......

 

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