GB column: FA Cup, artificial pitches, league form and ‘positive dialogue

[roverstillidie91]

http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/gavin-baldwin-column-fa-cup-artificial-pitches-league-form-and-positive-dialogue-with-knights-and-belles-1-6971382

[bpoolrover]

Good article for me this is what should happen on a regular basis just a bit of info on what's going on

[Reds R Us]

Excellent article. Just the sort of info we need on a regular basis from the club.

[silent majority]

Can we make a special note of Gavin's comments regarding the budget for when this crops up again?

[RJHeader]

PD: '[Before a ball was kicked] the play-offs weren't a priority for us. We'll do our best to compete with clubs with big resources'

Id of thought we'd be one of these clubs with big resources in comparison with teams in L1.

[graingrover]

I like this a lot
 "As we continue to look at ways in which Club Doncaster can grow we have entered into positive dialogue about how we can work with both Doncaster Rovers Belles and the Knights about creating a product that no other town can enjoy and expect to see information about this shortly."

[Boomstick]

Can we make a special note of Gavin's comments regarding the budget for when this crops up again?

Nothing different from the vague budget references before.
'top half budget' means what? We have the 11tg biggest budget in LEAGUE 1?

glad there is communication from the club, nie how about hearing from the chairman?

[silent majority]

Boomstick, did you bother to read the article? The reference was this;

'Much is always made of the budget Paul has to spend on players and as we have seen from the loan signings brought in, there is additional monies to spend for the manager, if he believes it is right to do so.'

[Filo]

Boomstick, did you bother to read the article? The reference was this;

'Much is always made of the budget Paul has to spend on players and as we have seen from the loan signings brought in, there is additional monies to spend for the manager, if he believes it is right to do so.'

Obviously he didn't bother reading the article, if he did he would know that the words "top half budget" never got one mention!


Just some one that likes to moan for moanings sake!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Agree would be nice to hear from the Chairman however, in the list of priorities given this most recent update, it's not essential for me.

What would you like to hear from the Chairman that we're not getting from Gavin or PD? 

[IDM]

All I really want to hear as a priority (or see when I am there) is the score, preferably with us scoring at least one more goal than the opponents.....

Any other news will happen when it happens...

[acko]

the lack of words from the chairman doesnt bode well,its not baldwins job to be keeping the fans informed,but it seems hes the only one interested.you can have as much faith as you want with this board but the lack of any words doesnt give confidence.

[Al4475]

I would guess (tho I don't know) that part of gavin's role as ceo is to be spokesperson for the board as a unit! True it would be nice to hear from the owners every now and then but we (unlike a lot of fans from other clubs) get the odd chance to hear them speak for themselves in person at meet the owners events! Nobody really seems to hear from a regular basis from the boards of their respective clubs!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Not sure what anyone else thinks, but the pospects of 'Club Doncaster' growing and what it can deliver for it's professional sporting clubs and our town is quite exciting.

To give the Rugby League club the best possible chance of reaching the Super League, The Knights, the best possible chance of the Premiership, The Belles, the Womens Super League then it would be folly to think The Rovers won't have the best possible chance of reaching the Premier League.

In what timescale, and whether all at the same time, will depend on many things coming together.

In the not too distant future, I'd like to think everyone with an interest in the professional sports codes will be a Club Doncaster member. This could have wider implications for the provision of goods and services, cross discounting for individual and corporate membership. This in turn is likely to increase sponsorship, advertising revenues and TV revenues.

Memberships could be supported with something like we see with these 'Purple vouchers' which you can use for a host of events/services around the borough.

The sharing of support services and specialist services such as fitness/conditioning, dietry information, coaching, physiotherapy, medical services, facilities should help each code's players be the best prepared and conditioned they can possibly be.

I'm sure we'll see things develop gradually and we'd like to think sometime in the near future we'll be hearing "How have they done that?"

What is more important, as this grows, the very existance of our professional sports teams in the long term will not be at risk. 

I wonder what odds I could get on all 4 teams reaching the top flight within 5 years? 

[acko]

you must be in cuckoo land if you think the dons will ever get into super league or rovers getting into prem all in 5 years call into wm hills they will gladly take your money off you,your safest bet is to back rovers and knights to ground share so bramhall and co can build houses at the keepmoat

[coventryrover]

Not sure what anyone else thinks, but the pospects of 'Club Doncaster' growing and what it can deliver for it's professional sporting clubs and our town is quite exciting.

To give the Rugby League club the best possible chance of reaching the Super League, The Knights, the best possible chance of the Premiership, The Belles, the Womens Super League then it would be folly to think The Rovers won't have the best possible chance of reaching the Premier League.

In what timescale, and whether all at the same time, will depend on many things coming together.

In the not too distant future, I'd like to think everyone with an interest in the professional sports codes will be a Club Doncaster member. This could have wider implications for the provision of goods and services, cross discounting for individual and corporate membership. This in turn is likely to increase sponsorship, advertising revenues and TV revenues.

Memberships could be supported with something like we see with these 'Purple vouchers' which you can use for a host of events/services around the borough.

The sharing of support services and specialist services such as fitness/conditioning, dietry information, coaching, physiotherapy, medical services, facilities should help each code's players be the best prepared and conditioned they can possibly be.

I'm sure we'll see things develop gradually and we'd like to think sometime in the near future we'll be hearing "How have they done that?"

What is more important, as this grows, the very existance of our professional sports teams in the long term will not be at risk. 

I wonder what odds I could get on all 4 teams reaching the top flight within 5 years? 

Utterly agree.   Can only be good for Doncastrians.   Successful sport teams improves the outlook on the associated towns inhabitants...even Doncastrians!!

[Muttley]

you must be in cuckoo land if you think the dons will ever get into super league or rovers getting into prem all in 5 years call into wm hills they will gladly take your money off you,your safest bet is to back rovers and knights to ground share so bramhall and co can build houses at the keepmoat

Bramall and co don't own the Keepmoat and DRFC only hold a lease on the ground so little prospect of building houses on it.

And if TB did want to make money from buillding houses, there are plenty of places he could choose to do it without the hassle of running a loss-making football club.

[acko]

the concept of club doncaster might sound a  good idea but the timing is bad,rovers just relegated and in a poor state on the field,the rugby league team financialy poor,as with the ladies,the knights are doing alright on there own dont need to join up.i would sooner the board spent more time on the rovers future because its not in a good place at the moment,and lets be honest about this apart from looking at the results as a matter of interest how many rovers fans would be breaking there neck to go and support the two rugby teams and the ladies

[acko]

i acknowledge that the rovers only hold the lease in the name of bramhall and baldwin but do you honestly beleave the council wouldnt sell if the right price came along

[drfc1951]

Yeh  that's why they came in the first place just to get their hands on the land. ffs you've been  spouting this crap for 3 years now.

[wilts rover]

The stadium is protected from development as an asset of community value or whatever the words are, the VSC did it earlier this year. So if Rovers did go and share at Castle Park there would be an empty stadium on Alick Jeffrey Way - because you cant do anything else with it.

[bobjimwilly]

acko is either very ignorant, has a huge lack of knowledge on the issue or is a massive WUM   

[silent majority]

i acknowledge that the rovers only hold the lease in the name of bramhall and baldwin but do you honestly beleave the council wouldnt sell if the right price came along

The Keepmoat and the surrounding land sits on the Councils register as a Community Assett, this is lodged into the lease agreement that is agreed between both parties. I personally attended all meetings at the Mansion House when the transfer of the lease was being passed to DRFC.

On top of that the VSC applied for, and was granted, an application for the same area, plus the Athletics track, to be designated as an Assett of Coommunity Value. This essentially gives the VSC the benefit of first priority purchase if any of the previous is allowed to change status. Anything getting anywhere near a change of ownership or usage would trigger that registration.

This peddling of the 'alternative motivation' towards the club and especially the usage of the Keepmoat as an assett to be exploited by two retired businessman in TB and DW was the driving factor behind what we did. We had complete confidence in DMBC and its desire to provide the Keepmoat as a community stadium and our discussions with them only confirmed that.

However, there are people out there who are prepared to peddle false and malicious gossip that can have only one purpose, to defame and cast doubt on the intentions of our current owners. The facts quite clearly don't, and can't, support that argument but that doesn't seem to stop them.

So let me put a stop to this here and now, the Keepmoat is not for sale, it won't be exploited for development land, and the motivation by all of us is to make the stadium a successful and profitable community stadium, and nothing else.

[Wellred]

Not sure what anyone else thinks, but the pospects of 'Club Doncaster' growing and what it can deliver for it's professional sporting clubs and our town is quite exciting.

To give the Rugby League club the best possible chance of reaching the Super League, The Knights, the best possible chance of the Premiership, The Belles, the Womens Super League then it would be folly to think The Rovers won't have the best possible chance of reaching the Premier League.

In what timescale, and whether all at the same time, will depend on many things coming together.

In the not too distant future, I'd like to think everyone with an interest in the professional sports codes will be a Club Doncaster member. This could have wider implications for the provision of goods and services, cross discounting for individual and corporate membership. This in turn is likely to increase sponsorship, advertising revenues and TV revenues.

Memberships could be supported with something like we see with these 'Purple vouchers' which you can use for a host of events/services around the borough.

The sharing of support services and specialist services such as fitness/conditioning, dietry information, coaching, physiotherapy, medical services, facilities should help each code's players be the best prepared and conditioned they can possibly be.

I'm sure we'll see things develop gradually and we'd like to think sometime in the near future we'll be hearing "How have they done that?"

What is more important, as this grows, the very existance of our professional sports teams in the long term will not be at risk. 

I wonder what odds I could get on all 4 teams reaching the top flight within 5 years? 

You would probably get better odds on winning the euromillions jackpot two weeks running.
The Dons have zero chance of getting into the Super League. For one they don't have the fiances or support.
The same applies to the Knights. With the crowds they get and the fiances required to survive in the premiership. It would be a definite NO.

I can't understand the fuss about Club Doncaster, lets concentrate on getting DRFC higher up the ladder and forget all the other distractions.

The Dons have virtually 0 chance of getting

[acko]

not to get in an argument with you silent my understanding of the assets of community value doesnt gaurantee anything if the council decide to sell only gives the right to first bid and be informed of their intentions to sell,i wonder as the vsc got the money to bid for the stadium and area if so why not buy the club.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

"I can't understand the fuss about Club Doncaster, lets concentrate on getting DRFC higher up the ladder and forget all the other distractions"

It's not a distraction. It's an integral part of inceasing turnover. 

[Wellred]

"I can't understand the fuss about Club Doncaster, lets concentrate on getting DRFC higher up the ladder and forget all the other distractions"

It's not a distraction. It's an integral part of inceasing turnover. 

How will Doncaster Knights being part of Club Doncaster increase turnover?

[acko]

can someone explain if our aim is sustainability and weve seen a cut in playing staff redicules small contracts given to what everyone is saying is our future cut in the backroom staff,and for all that we now add extra baggage to the club in the form of rugby teams and ladies.surely the timing is bad.but when the time comes to sell the club and bear in mind the ages of the owners would propectivebuyers be interested in the concept of club doncaster given the relative standings in their own sports

[graingrover]

Acko .. only an opinion of course but  I don't think there can be any hard and fast calculation as to whether the Club Doncaster dimension adds monetary value . In my view it is strategically sound to try to bring us closer to our community though . There are as many females as males in our community and the Belles brand is one of the best in Women's football . Rovers would not need to put much money their way to help them ... shared marketing and advertising and help with little things like buying kit and producing  match programmes  would be a start. I know little of the Dons dimension except that Promotion to the Super League is again open next season and they finished in the top four last season in League level 2 .

[acko]

you might have a case graingerover the point i am raising is the timing neither of the clubs are being run with any financial backing as such required to be successful,and you should know history means nothing in football and granted belles can claim historicaly to be one of the great teams.but so can the likes of preston,blackpool,birminghamand you can go on and on