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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: wing commander on July 17, 2018, 11:57:08 am
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I see they have signed Danny Lloyd from the posh...He's a really good player and a first teamer for them last season.For him to drop from a top end league 1 team down to the National league can only mean they are splashing the wages big time..Think we will be seeing them at our level in the not to distant future...
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Getting paid more, Lloyd said he was on ‘peanuts’ at posh, according to their chairman he was on around 80k a year.
Salford obviously spending big
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6/1 favourites to win that league. It’s a hard league to win, as we know, but they are definitely having a good go.
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Getting paid more, Lloyd said he was on ‘peanuts’ at posh, according to their chairman he was on around 80k a year.
Salford obviously spending big
£1500 a week is about average in L1 I’d say.
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6/1 favourites to win that league. It’s a hard league to win, as we know, but they are definitely having a good go.
It is a hard league Gaz but that does seem good value all the same...How do the fair play rules effect non league clubs?? Whist I know the owners are not short of a sheckle or two,the wages they are paying now must be madness for that league..
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They get decent crowds for that division i think (or at least they did at the start when there was a lot of hype)
Their wage bill is still probably short of what Giggs got in a week for years
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6/1 favourites to win that league. It’s a hard league to win, as we know, but they are definitely having a good go.
It is a hard league Gaz but that does seem good value all the same...How do the fair play rules effect non league clubs?? Whist I know the owners are not short of a sheckle or two,the wages they are paying now must be madness for that league..
If you think that's madness... they were paying Danny Webber and another lad £1200 a week in I think the 8th tier.
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They averaged 1611 last season apparently
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6/1 favourites to win that league. It’s a hard league to win, as we know, but they are definitely having a good go.
It is a hard league Gaz but that does seem good value all the same...How do the fair play rules effect non league clubs?? Whist I know the owners are not short of a sheckle or two,the wages they are paying now must be madness for that league..
If you think that's madness... they were paying Danny Webber and another lad £1200 a week in I think the 8th tier.
Didn’t we pay Justin Jackson £2k a week all those years ago?
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They averaged 1611 last season apparently
oh not as good as i thought then
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6/1 favourites to win that league. It’s a hard league to win, as we know, but they are definitely having a good go.
It is a hard league Gaz but that does seem good value all the same...How do the fair play rules effect non league clubs?? Whist I know the owners are not short of a sheckle or two,the wages they are paying now must be madness for that league..
If you think that's madness... they were paying Danny Webber and another lad £1200 a week in I think the 8th tier.
Didn’t we pay Justin Jackson £2k a week all those years ago?
We could have paid him £20 a week and it would have been too much!
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6/1 favourites to win that league. It’s a hard league to win, as we know, but they are definitely having a good go.
It is a hard league Gaz but that does seem good value all the same...How do the fair play rules effect non league clubs?? Whist I know the owners are not short of a sheckle or two,the wages they are paying now must be madness for that league..
If you think that's madness... they were paying Danny Webber and another lad £1200 a week in I think the 8th tier.
Didn’t we pay Justin Jackson £2k a week all those years ago?
We could have paid him £20 a week and it would have been too much!
Didn't we spend 6 figures on him as well? Baffling mediocrity, just about sums up Steve Wignall's management career though.
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6/1 favourites to win that league. It’s a hard league to win, as we know, but they are definitely having a good go.
It is a hard league Gaz but that does seem good value all the same...How do the fair play rules effect non league clubs?? Whist I know the owners are not short of a sheckle or two,the wages they are paying now must be madness for that league..
If you think that's madness... they were paying Danny Webber and another lad £1200 a week in I think the 8th tier.
Didn’t we pay Justin Jackson £2k a week all those years ago?
Something mental like that. Doesn't make it much better but at least that was only the 5th tier, at 8th tier you've got players who'll go to the club down the road for an extra tenner a week. I know because I work with a bloke who's managed at that level for years and he always bloody moans about it. :laugh:
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6/1 favourites to win that league. It’s a hard league to win, as we know, but they are definitely having a good go.
It is a hard league Gaz but that does seem good value all the same...How do the fair play rules effect non league clubs?? Whist I know the owners are not short of a sheckle or two,the wages they are paying now must be madness for that league..
If you think that's madness... they were paying Danny Webber and another lad £1200 a week in I think the 8th tier.
Didn’t we pay Justin Jackson £2k a week all those years ago?
We could have paid him £20 a week and it would have been too much!
Didn't we spend 6 figures on him as well? Baffling mediocrity, just about sums up Steve Wignall's management career though.
I think it was £150k. I remember getting home from school and seeing that we'd signed him on Ceefax just before me and my dad set out to get to Boston - I was convinced then that we were going to win promotion that year and he'd tear it up. We then blew a 2-0 lead to draw 2-2, Jackson was anonymous and it was Boston who went up that year.
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They'll get about 2,000+ attendances this season.
Not bad, but there's a lot of other clubs in the league who'll get bigger gates.
No idea who'll win it, but there's a couple of teams at the bottom, namely Solihull Moors and Dagenham & Redbridge, who might be in for a very long and difficult season.
Despite losing Mark Yates to Macclesfield, the Moors seem to have kept most of the players they had at the end of last season. Yates' assistant, Tim Flowers, is now manager, so there's an element of continuity.
Because of the size of the club and their location the Moors are always going to be punching above their weight in the National League, but at least they don't have financial problems. Great Escape No.2?
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I see they have signed Danny Lloyd from the posh...He's a really good player and a first teamer for them last season.For him to drop from a top end league 1 team down to the National league can only mean they are splashing the wages big time..Think we will be seeing them at our level in the not to distant future...
Might be a "not too distant" future looking at this https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=266680.0
Nearly 12% think we will go down and more people when I looked had us to be in the Bottom half / Relegated that had us gettin in Top half / Play offs / Promoted !
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Bloody hell, I've just looked at their website, and seen that they've signed 4 players from league 1, all of them well known at this level; Chris Neale and Nathan Pond from Fleetwood, Danny Lloyd from Peterborough, and Rory Gaffney from Bristol Rovers.
Most of us probably remember Gaffney well; he was the red-haired lad who scored against us when Bristol Rovers beat us 3-1 at the Keepmoat, and he ran us ragged that day; in fact, a few people on here suggested that we should go after him for this season.
It all suggests that Salford will have a hell of a team this season, especially for that level.
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Steve we were bullied out of that game
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Steve we were bullied out of that game
Absolutely Dude, which shows exactly why we badly need a strong, physical midfielder to dish it out.
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Been heavily linked with Adam Rooney today from Aberdeen deal looks all but done.. Rumoured wages of £4000 quid a week! Mental
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Been heavily linked with Adam Rooney today from Aberdeen deal looks all but done.. Rumoured wages of £4000 quid a week! Mental
I can remember us being interested in him a few years ago; I think he's Irish; no relation to Wayne.
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I know we take the piss out of the SPL but that’s an enormous signing!
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I know we take the piss out of the SPL but that’s an enormous signing!
Yes Nick, and when you look at the rest of their signings, the expectations from their fans this season will be colossal. If we think our supporters are moaners when things aren't going right, just imagine what their fans will be like if they underachieve this year.
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They won't be blaming the owners if they underachieve, that's for sure. In order to underachieve there has to be an expectation of achievement in the first place, and if there is it suggests that the owners have invested well in the team. In the event of failure, in that case, means the blame must be put on the manager.
The situation is different at Rovers because no one knows what the expectation of achievement is, therefore no one knows who's responsible for its success or failure.
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They'll get about 2,000+ attendances this season.
Not bad, but there's a lot of other clubs in the league who'll get bigger gates....
I think more like 2.5k, and more if they are serious promotion contenders. Interesting to see how attendances go with such a massive catchment area, and with a lot of people feeling disconnected from the two prem sides by expense as well as the rest.
With a 5k ground, it looks like they'll be wanting to expand v soon with the current investment. A 5 year plan of established Championship football?
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Getting paid more, Lloyd said he was on ‘peanuts’ at posh, according to their chairman he was on around 80k a year.
Salford obviously spending big
£1500 a week is about average in L1 I’d say.
bet some at our club are on more a lot more than that
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Hope they f**k it up. You’ll only have Neville on twitter shouting about them been a League Club. Buying their way out does not make them a decent club.
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A silly vanity project - all about them. Their kit colour was orange until they came in and changed it to look like ManYoo.
I'd laugh if they went straight back down.
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We didn’t half waste some money on strikers in the conference - Jackson, Alford, Sale, Newell and that lad only 40k but massive then and literally never played, was it Gary Williams? Lots of them I must confess look like JR-inspired vanity signings.
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We didn’t half waste some money on strikers in the conference - Jackson, Alford, Sale, Newell and that lad only 40k but massive then and literally never played, was it Gary Williams? Lots of them I must confess look like JR-inspired vanity signings.
It’s easy in hindsight to call them wastes but Alford and Jackson both had a great scoring record and looked like top signings at the time. I could be wrong but I don’t think Newell or Sale cost anything other than wages - these may have been high but to be fair neither was around for very long. The only one I was unsure of at the time was Gary Williams, but he had scored a lot of goals for Accrington and must have seemingly had a lot of potential.
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We didn’t half waste some money on strikers in the conference - Jackson, Alford, Sale, Newell and that lad only 40k but massive then and literally never played, was it Gary Williams? Lots of them I must confess look like JR-inspired vanity signings.
another dig at JR .
without him there would be no DRFC.
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Vanity is the wrong word, he wanted us to get out of non league just as much as any of us did.
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wasn't sean Thornton on 3.5k ?
surely we had a smaller then ?
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He's turned down the chance to play in Europe to join a National League side? The money on offer must be eye-watering!
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The trouble is that I don't think you can buy your way out of the National League.
As Salford will find out, they are now everyone's scalp to claim and with the way some teams play, the way some pitches play and the way some referees play there will be games where they just get battered.
Remember Fylde, who hammered the top 3 teams by scoring 5-7 goals when they played them at home. Odd results will keep happening.
Consistency, not money, is the key to getting out of that division.
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My Lincoln supporting mates reckon they were often the biggest spenders in their time in the national league which didn't do them much good for a long time before the Cowley's came in.
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We didn’t half waste some money on strikers in the conference - Jackson, Alford, Sale, Newell and that lad only 40k but massive then and literally never played, was it Gary Williams? Lots of them I must confess look like JR-inspired vanity signings.
another dig at JR .
without him there would be no DRFC.
Wrong target comrade. Check my record on JR!
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They'll get about 2,000+ attendances this season.
Not bad, but there's a lot of other clubs in the league who'll get bigger gates....
I think more like 2.5k, and more if they are serious promotion contenders. Interesting to see how attendances go with such a massive catchment area, and with a lot of people feeling disconnected from the two prem sides by expense as well as the rest.
With a 5k ground, it looks like they'll be wanting to expand v soon with the current investment. A 5 year plan of established Championship football?
5 year plan?
I’ll believe it when I’m sat on the pins.
Bloody shite Bramhall.
Bram Hall? More like Bram Stoker after he’s sucked all the blood out of...
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Maybe the lad just wants a challenge lol or he wants the chance to work with the class of 92 blah blah.
I believe one of the main problems at Chesterfield last season was the disparity in wages, they had a striker who was on a reputed £6k/week. Crazy money
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well some of you might recall Crawley buying there way out of the league. Funny story Fatti Evans was the Manager of Rotherham at the time and came on Radio dada and said non league Crawleys had offered £250,000 for a Rotherham player and did alll the moaning etc. I knew then Crawley at 6/1 were certs for the Championship but that was done on "low key" not a lot of people realised what was going on not like this mob with more money than sense and the players training in high visibility jackets
It was ironic that Evans had left Crawley after 7 years to join Rotherham
i looked at the odds saturday and the hype and £Sd had caused them to be around 2/1 .
this is a very fast starting league playing twice a week watched Saltford on Saturday on the TV and they should have lost end of
Martin Allens mob got a dour win on Saturday (would expect nothing else) and play a top 7 team Aldershot Tuesday who have lost a few players -- think he nicked one from them
He's also just signed that bloke who continually threw the ball into the Rovers penalty when there was an air raid over the keepmoat last time barnet played Rovers -- Muggleton so it's route 1(extreme) they go to war at Salford on August 19th
7/2 for promotion looks a far better bet - hedge some of it off if they only make the play offs maybe some of you want each way around 8/1
seems coleman is a big chessie fan this year as opposed to wolves wigan and luton last season
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well some of you might recall Crawley buying there way out of the league. Funny story Fatti Evans was the Manager of Rotherham at the time and came on Radio dada and said non league Crawleys had offered £250,000 for a Rotherham player and did alll the moaning etc. I knew then Crawley at 6/1 were certs for the Championship but that was done on "low key" not a lot of people realised what was going on not like this mob with more money than sense and the players training in high visibility jackets
It was ironic that Evans had left Crawley after 7 years to join Rotherham
i looked at the odds saturday and the hype and £Sd had caused them to be around 2/1 .
this is a very fast starting league playing twice a week watched Saltford on Saturday on the TV and they should have lost end of
Martin Allens mob got a dour win on Saturday (would expect nothing else) and play a top 7 team Aldershot Tuesday who have lost a few players -- think he nicked one from them
He's also just signed that bloke who continually threw the ball into the Rovers penalty when there was an air raid over the keepmoat last time barnet played Rovers -- Muggleton so it's route 1(extreme) they go to war at Salford on August 19th
7/2 for promotion looks a far better bet - hedge some of it off if they only make the play offs maybe some of you want each way around 8/1
seems coleman is a big chessie fan this year as opposed to wolves wigan and luton last season
I got to say mate, I haven't a clue what you ramble on about half the time
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Half the time? Very generous. It's like he's speaking a different language to the rest of us.
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It's as though SCWK ate space cakes before logging in.
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well some of you might recall Crawley buying there way out of the league. Funny story Fatti Evans was the Manager of Rotherham at the time and came on Radio dada and said non league Crawleys had offered £250,000 for a Rotherham player and did alll the moaning etc. I knew then Crawley at 6/1 were certs for the Championship but that was done on "low key" not a lot of people realised what was going on not like this mob with more money than sense and the players training in high visibility jackets
It was ironic that Evans had left Crawley after 7 years to join Rotherham
i looked at the odds saturday and the hype and £Sd had caused them to be around 2/1 .
this is a very fast starting league playing twice a week watched Saltford on Saturday on the TV and they should have lost end of
Martin Allens mob got a dour win on Saturday (would expect nothing else) and play a top 7 team Aldershot Tuesday who have lost a few players -- think he nicked one from them
He's also just signed that bloke who continually threw the ball into the Rovers penalty when there was an air raid over the keepmoat last time barnet played Rovers -- Muggleton so it's route 1(extreme) they go to war at Salford on August 19th
7/2 for promotion looks a far better bet - hedge some of it off if they only make the play offs maybe some of you want each way around 8/1
seems coleman is a big chessie fan this year as opposed to wolves wigan and luton last season
Superb this hahahaha
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i like the way Salford have done their ground in such a short time.
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I hope they don’t win a game all season. I’ve had a lump on Leyton Orient. 14/1.
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Salford City P. 2 W. 0. D. 1. L. 1.
Solihull Moors P. 2. W. 2. D. 0. L. 0.
Funny old game!
I saw the Moors beat Maidenhead tonight and they were good value. If their finishing had been better it could have been a much fairer reflection of the game. They have a nice balance of youth and experience and although they won't win the National League I'd wager they will stay up with a bit to spare. Rovers scouts should have a look at Jamey Osborne (who has had a crack at the EFL with Grimsby), Jermaine Hylton and Tyrone Williams.
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I hope they don’t win a game all season. I’ve had a lump on Leyton Orient. 14/1.
That is where my money has gone too. Gone e/w at 14s
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Saw that Salford lost at Gateshead as well.
Welcome to the Conference Premier, lads.
Money gets you nowhere in this league unless you're hungry enough and have the b*llocks to contend with long-ass midweek trips to places like Gateshead and horrible winter days on a crap pitch, somewhere down south.
Ah well, they'll learn...
See my earlier comment. I do fancy Chesterfield to bounce back and although the football he plays isn't my cup of tea, you couldn't get a better manager than Martin Allen if you want promotion from the National League. Very similar to Warnock and the Championship.
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Was Muggleton, aka The Trebuchet, playing last night?
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well some of you might recall Crawley buying there way out of the league. Funny story Fatti Evans was the Manager of Rotherham at the time and came on Radio dada and said non league Crawleys had offered £250,000 for a Rotherham player and did alll the moaning etc. I knew then Crawley at 6/1 were certs for the Championship but that was done on "low key" not a lot of people realised what was going on not like this mob with more money than sense and the players training in high visibility jackets
It was ironic that Evans had left Crawley after 7 years to join Rotherham
i looked at the odds saturday and the hype and £Sd (that's money bet on them) had caused them to be around 2/1 .
this is a very fast starting league playing twice a week (in fact 7 matches are played in August and 7 in September) watched Saltford on Saturday on the TV and they should have lost end of (so they WERE already 2 points behind Chessie) AFTER LAST NIGHTS RESULT SALFORD COULD HAVE THE LEAGUE LOST BY THEN
Martin Allens mob got a dour win on Saturday (would expect nothing else) and play a top 7 team Aldershot Tuesday (yes Aldershot bossed the game 2nd half for a while but Martin has this team as fit as a butchers dog -- they harry and can play as Rigo found out last night) -- yes Aldershot are still a top 7 team who have lost a few players -- think he nicked one from them
He's also just signed that bloke who continually threw the ball into the Rovers penalty when there was an air raid over the keepmoat last time barnet played Rovers -- Muggleton so it's route 1(extreme) they go to war at Salford on August 19th forgot to mention they signed no other than Fortune who prefer them to Swindon -he was in Rovers league last year
7/2 for promotion looks a far better bet - hedge some of it off if they only make the play offs maybe some of you want each way around 8/1 EACH WAY IS NOW 9/2
salford scored first last night and still lost so they are already 5 points behind the Chessie juggernaught -- 5 points is a lot -- so are orient who i expect top 7 .
Today Chessies odds for promotion are MASSIVELY reduced to 5/2 --- if they dont win the league they will be less than that in the play offs . Then I might hedge - i know what players they have signed --so i can sleep at night because a big lump (of money) has gone from under my bed - so the bed is level !!! --- as usual this money has only been loaned
seems coleman is a big chessie fan this year as opposed to wolves wigan and luton last season
last season I had all the leagues won by October and had a very happy manager ended up a meatloaf 2 out of 3 aint bad -- POSSIBLY VERY POSSIBLY CHESSIE might have this league won by then who knows --- rigo forgot to mention there were 4500 fans there last night nor how Martin Allen whipped up the crowd before and during the match for the slaughter. Chessie took 800 away on Saturday -- Salford took 90 away last night to Gateshead. --
and here's a reported quote from Radio Surrey which covers Aldershot despite it being in Hampshire
At the end the commentator on Radio Surrey said "If this Chestefield side start to roll it could be frightening."
so for the benefit of redj Over the last day Salford have gone out to 7/2 to win the league and Chesterfield are 9/2 hope you can all understand the words in red
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