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Me thinks he was being sarcastic.
Quote from: River Don on October 22, 2021, 09:32:34 amPrivate healthcare doesn't work very well when it comes to A&E.It's not a service they can easily provide.Yep that's the thing about private healthcare, they want young people to sign up that don't really need it and do the easy stuff. If the NHS had been properly funded for the past 11 years ...................
Private healthcare doesn't work very well when it comes to A&E.It's not a service they can easily provide.
Quote from: Filo on October 22, 2021, 09:23:11 amQuote from: KeithMyath on October 22, 2021, 08:38:29 amThat sounds terrible Nudga, that must be the case for everyone who arrives at A&E. The sooner we privatise the whole NHS the better, let’s make it so those chavs can’t afford to visit a hospital via. Extortionate Health insurance. That way those of us who can afford it can happily be seen 20 mins earlier.When I lived in Donny, every time I went to A&E I had to wait 3/4 hours to be seen. I assumed that was the norm, limited doctors and nurses out of hours who probably have very sick patients in the hospital to look after as well. My sister worked for a year in A&E said it was the horrific, nobody wants that gig, and the problem won’t have got any better during a pandemic. Which we are still in, even if certain elected officials prefer to think it’s not. So what about those that are n’t chavs, but are on low income and can’t afford private health insurance, where do they fit in, in your grand master plan? Are they expendable because they are poor? Your comments are an insult to everyone on minimum wage and zero hour contracts, typical selfish attitudeApologies, my sarcasm was slightly veiled. I’m not a proponent of privatising health care. Anything but, we still have one of the best health care systems in the world, but granted there is always room for improvement, providing adequate funding would be a start I’d guess.
Quote from: KeithMyath on October 22, 2021, 08:38:29 amThat sounds terrible Nudga, that must be the case for everyone who arrives at A&E. The sooner we privatise the whole NHS the better, let’s make it so those chavs can’t afford to visit a hospital via. Extortionate Health insurance. That way those of us who can afford it can happily be seen 20 mins earlier.When I lived in Donny, every time I went to A&E I had to wait 3/4 hours to be seen. I assumed that was the norm, limited doctors and nurses out of hours who probably have very sick patients in the hospital to look after as well. My sister worked for a year in A&E said it was the horrific, nobody wants that gig, and the problem won’t have got any better during a pandemic. Which we are still in, even if certain elected officials prefer to think it’s not. So what about those that are n’t chavs, but are on low income and can’t afford private health insurance, where do they fit in, in your grand master plan? Are they expendable because they are poor? Your comments are an insult to everyone on minimum wage and zero hour contracts, typical selfish attitude
That sounds terrible Nudga, that must be the case for everyone who arrives at A&E. The sooner we privatise the whole NHS the better, let’s make it so those chavs can’t afford to visit a hospital via. Extortionate Health insurance. That way those of us who can afford it can happily be seen 20 mins earlier.When I lived in Donny, every time I went to A&E I had to wait 3/4 hours to be seen. I assumed that was the norm, limited doctors and nurses out of hours who probably have very sick patients in the hospital to look after as well. My sister worked for a year in A&E said it was the horrific, nobody wants that gig, and the problem won’t have got any better during a pandemic. Which we are still in, even if certain elected officials prefer to think it’s not.
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 22, 2021, 02:09:31 amQuote from: River Don on October 21, 2021, 11:44:02 pmAt this point NED nobody is wanting another lockdown.The hope is that reintroducing simple restrictions like mask wearing will make any lockdown unnecessary. That the numbers getting sick might fall. Javid, I suspect is already calculating that hospital admissions will not grow sufficiently to force a lockdown. In the meantime he doesn't care if thousands become sick, always risking the emergence of new varients. Or God knows how many suffer the debilitating effects of long Covid. Or if a thousand odd die each week. He's just about ensuring business as usual prevails, even if the restrictions proposed will not have any economic impacts. It's just blinkered libertarian ideology. "We've got to live with it." He's out to make sure we do and he doesn't care about the human cost.could you explain why simple mask wearing is not working in Wales? Yet you think it will stop lockdown in England?I don't know what's going on in Wales, they seem to have had a more difficult time of it despite taking a more cautious approach.In France, continued strictly enforced measures are pushing their Covid rates a lot lower than the UK.Getting away from the whatabouttery, I don't think there is any serious dispute that widespread mask wearing will slow down the spread of respiratory diseases.
Quote from: River Don on October 21, 2021, 11:44:02 pmAt this point NED nobody is wanting another lockdown.The hope is that reintroducing simple restrictions like mask wearing will make any lockdown unnecessary. That the numbers getting sick might fall. Javid, I suspect is already calculating that hospital admissions will not grow sufficiently to force a lockdown. In the meantime he doesn't care if thousands become sick, always risking the emergence of new varients. Or God knows how many suffer the debilitating effects of long Covid. Or if a thousand odd die each week. He's just about ensuring business as usual prevails, even if the restrictions proposed will not have any economic impacts. It's just blinkered libertarian ideology. "We've got to live with it." He's out to make sure we do and he doesn't care about the human cost.could you explain why simple mask wearing is not working in Wales? Yet you think it will stop lockdown in England?
At this point NED nobody is wanting another lockdown.The hope is that reintroducing simple restrictions like mask wearing will make any lockdown unnecessary. That the numbers getting sick might fall. Javid, I suspect is already calculating that hospital admissions will not grow sufficiently to force a lockdown. In the meantime he doesn't care if thousands become sick, always risking the emergence of new varients. Or God knows how many suffer the debilitating effects of long Covid. Or if a thousand odd die each week. He's just about ensuring business as usual prevails, even if the restrictions proposed will not have any economic impacts. It's just blinkered libertarian ideology. "We've got to live with it." He's out to make sure we do and he doesn't care about the human cost.
39k cases today will be interesting next few days numbers as that is down 6k on last Sunday
SW is where the Immensa f**k up happened. I wonder if they are catching up old positive results that were originally reported wrongly as negative.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 24, 2021, 06:28:38 pmSW is where the Immensa f**k up happened. I wonder if they are catching up old positive results that were originally reported wrongly as negative. Yep appears to be the case, so makes the daily case reporting largely meaningless. It also likely means the spread much wider because of the positive going out and about.Interesting that some models believe cases will shortly drop massively.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 25, 2021, 11:59:41 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 24, 2021, 06:28:38 pmSW is where the Immensa f**k up happened. I wonder if they are catching up old positive results that were originally reported wrongly as negative. Yep appears to be the case, so makes the daily case reporting largely meaningless. It also likely means the spread much wider because of the positive going out and about.Interesting that some models believe cases will shortly drop massively.Doesn't really make the daily figures meaningless. There were 43000 affected results. Even if all those were now returned as +ves in one day, it would only increase the 7 day average by 14% for one week, then it would drop out of the numbers. The recent rise had been higher and more sustained than that. As for cases falling soon, let's very much hope so. I haven't seen those figures and I must admit I've lost touch with where we are supposed to be on HI.The huge worry is still the rapid drop in efficacy of the AZ vaccine after 5 months and the sluggish booster program. I've a very personal interest in this. I'm in one of the top 9 vulnerable groups and I had my 2nd AZ dose in mid-May. I've heard nothing yet about eligibility for a booster.
Bpool Thanks I didn't know that.
36k new cases today so again a decent fall in them