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Title: New forward
Post by: ravenrover on July 19, 2021, 12:32:08 pm
Do we know who the young forward we are having on loan today is?
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Metalmicky on July 19, 2021, 01:20:21 pm
No
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Wild Rover on July 19, 2021, 01:31:20 pm
We don't BUT some do.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: RugbyRover on July 19, 2021, 01:43:20 pm
It can be difficult to get things over the line. :chair:
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: MachoMadness on July 19, 2021, 01:50:28 pm
Announced at 2 so you won't be kept guessing for long.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Retdon1 on July 19, 2021, 01:50:59 pm
Being announced at 14:00
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Guernsey Exile on July 19, 2021, 02:00:38 pm
Tiago Cukur
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Guernsey Exile on July 19, 2021, 02:01:05 pm
Season loan from Watford
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: MachoMadness on July 19, 2021, 02:05:27 pm
6 foot 3 so imagine he won't have any trouble winning headers. Watford fans seem quite high on him, which is always a good sign!
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: karldew on July 19, 2021, 02:10:26 pm
Never heard of him but Watford fans seem to think he’s not too bad.

“Big, strong, mobile forward that’s a very good finisher. Has a bit of arrogance as well. Needs to sharpen technically and decision making, but that’ll come with game time in men’s football. Was only a year ago Roma wanted him“

Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Bessie Red on July 19, 2021, 02:11:03 pm
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-sign-watford-youngster-tiago-cukur-on-a-season-long-loan-3313650
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: RoversAlias on July 19, 2021, 02:20:03 pm
Very young, very untested. He'll probably be a bit like Richards, unplayable in some games with great class but will need patience because he's only young and not played senior football before.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 19, 2021, 02:28:16 pm
We don’t know much, if anything, about this lad, but at 6’3” is certainly the right size to be presenting a problem for L1 defenders. Mobile and comfortable playing anywhere across the front line, he looks and sounds like a prospect. The only downside I can see is that he’s untried at any EFL level, so he’s an interesting one to look out for.

So, another potential good signing by RW, but it sounds like we’ve nothing, or very little, left in the budget, which is astounding! We have 3 loan slots left, but we know that one of them will be a keeper, so only 2 outfield loanees left to get in.

It’s looking like Ben Blythe may be going on loan to Spennymoor and then we’re left wondering if Ed Williams can find himself a Club, such that funds can be freed up to get anyone else in.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Chris Black come back on July 19, 2021, 02:30:30 pm
6 foot 3 so imagine he won't have any trouble winning headers. Watford fans seem quite high on him, which is always a good sign!

You say that, but Neil Campbell was 6"3 also.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Copps is Magic on July 19, 2021, 02:30:44 pm
First Turkish player to play for the club?
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: DonnyOsmond on July 19, 2021, 02:35:59 pm
First Turkish player to play for the club?

Hakan Hayrettin and Tarkan Mustafa were English-Turkish. Looks like Cukur was born in Amsterdam too, so not 100% Turkish.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Filo on July 19, 2021, 02:45:15 pm
First Turkish player to play for the club?

Hakan Hayrettin and Tarkan Mustafa were English-Turkish. Looks like Cukur was born in Amsterdam too, so not 100% Turkish.

Played for Turkey U21’s
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: DonnyOsmond on July 19, 2021, 02:51:50 pm
First Turkish player to play for the club?

Hakan Hayrettin and Tarkan Mustafa were English-Turkish. Looks like Cukur was born in Amsterdam too, so not 100% Turkish.

Played for Turkey U21’s

True story.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Dutch Uncle on July 19, 2021, 03:03:31 pm
First Turkish player to play for the club?

Hakan Hayrettin and Tarkan Mustafa were English-Turkish. Looks like Cukur was born in Amsterdam too, so not 100% Turkish.

And Erdem Artun.

By the way Hakan Hayrettin was on our books but I don't think he actually made a first team appearance
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Metalmicky on July 19, 2021, 03:07:23 pm
The Hornets have the option of recalling the player in January 2022 should they wish to.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: One_Matty_Lucas on July 19, 2021, 03:30:08 pm
The Hornets have the option of recalling the player in January 2022 should they wish to.

Pretty standard I think, they want to bring them in for some tests and potentially send them higher if they can manage.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on July 19, 2021, 03:49:58 pm
Looks a big strong boy!

I'm sure he'll be welcomed and encouraged by our faithful!
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: MachoMadness on July 19, 2021, 03:56:41 pm
I'm sure Hoden has the Turkish Delight headlines written up and ready to go for whenever he scores.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Campsall rover on July 19, 2021, 04:01:07 pm
The important thing is we have competition for places and a strong bench is needed for that.
Squad taking shape now and Alan you really do not need to get wound up about the budget.
The board will support the manager as they always have in a sensible way.
We will be fine.
Quite happy with top 12 this season. That is the 1st time I have ever said that.
But you just never know how well we might do.

There are a good number of clubs with finances in a poor state who have supporters expecting a top 2 finish this season. Going to be several clubs who do not achieve anywhere near top 2 and it is the Clubs who are well run like DRFC that could be their nemesis.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Chris the Rover on July 19, 2021, 05:23:00 pm
I’m just looking forward to seeing proper footy again, win, lose or draw.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Metalmicky on July 19, 2021, 05:52:58 pm
just seen his arrival video and I have to say he's done his cliché training..... I wish him well - I hope he scores a bucketful.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: dickos1 on July 19, 2021, 05:58:51 pm
We don’t know much, if anything, about this lad, but at 6’3” is certainly the right size to be presenting a problem for L1 defenders. Mobile and comfortable playing anywhere across the front line, he looks and sounds like a prospect. The only downside I can see is that he’s untried at any EFL level, so he’s an interesting one to look out for.

So, another potential good signing by RW, but it sounds like we’ve nothing, or very little, left in the budget, which is astounding! We have 3 loan slots left, but we know that one of them will be a keeper, so only 2 outfield loanees left to get in.

It’s looking like Ben Blythe may be going on loan to Spennymoor and then we’re left wondering if Ed Williams can find himself a Club, such that funds can be freed up to get anyone else in.

Astounding? Really?
We’ve signed some very good players,
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: CantleyRed on July 19, 2021, 06:28:34 pm
just seen his arrival video and I have to say he's done his cliché training..... I wish him well - I hope he scores a bucketful.
It's all ballax to be fair.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 19, 2021, 06:39:12 pm
Not disputing that, Dickos. Where does it say I have?

Major rebuild not complete yet and we’re having to clear yet more out? It doesn’t sit right with me.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: silent majority on July 19, 2021, 06:44:22 pm
Not disputing that, Dickos. Where does it say I have?

Major rebuild not complete yet and we’re having to clear yet more out? It doesn’t sit right with me.

But then, nothing ever does.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 19, 2021, 08:03:48 pm
The Hornets have the option of recalling the player in January 2022 should they wish to.

Hopefully he can become TOP CAT here

now we dont want T.C.  doing a "Bamford" do we .... meaning scoring so many goals before Christmas that he moves to a Championship club do we .

"On 1 July, Chelsea extended Bamford's loan to MK Dons until 5 January 2014.[22] Bamford scored 14 league goals in 23 appearances for MK Dons during this six-month period, and thus received speculation that he would be sent on loan to a club at a higher level. On 31 December, Karl Robinson confirmed that Bamford would not be returning to MK Dons after his loan deal expires.[23] This club was later announced as Derby County. He made his last appearance for Milton Keynes on 4 January 2014, where he scored his 17th goal of the season in the closing stages of a 3–3 draw against the holders Wigan Athletic in the third round of the FA Cup.[24]
Loan to Derby County
On 3 January 2014, Derby County confirmed the signing of Bamford on a loan until the end of the season."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Bamford


dreams are currently tax free ...
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Drover on July 19, 2021, 08:33:52 pm
Not disputing that, Dickos. Where does it say I have?

Major rebuild not complete yet and we’re having to clear yet more out? It doesn’t sit right with me.

It's the same every year,but I reckon it may be more that,the board wisely don't want it banded around,we've enough available if the right player becomes available,then said parties often get greedy.Also,its a good excuse,to try and move dead wood on without making the players concerned look not good enough for prospective takers,a kind of business acumen. 
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: the vicar on July 19, 2021, 08:44:13 pm
The Hornets have the option of recalling the player in January 2022 should they wish to.

Hopefully he can become TOP CAT here

now we dont want T.C.  doing a "Bamford" do we .... meaning scoring so many goals before Christmas that he moves to a Championship club do we .

"On 1 July, Chelsea extended Bamford's loan to MK Dons until 5 January 2014.[22] Bamford scored 14 league goals in 23 appearances for MK Dons during this six-month period, and thus received speculation that he would be sent on loan to a club at a higher level. On 31 December, Karl Robinson confirmed that Bamford would not be returning to MK Dons after his loan deal expires.[23] This club was later announced as Derby County. He made his last appearance for Milton Keynes on 4 January 2014, where he scored his 17th goal of the season in the closing stages of a 3–3 draw against the holders Wigan Athletic in the third round of the FA Cup.[24]
Loan to Derby County
On 3 January 2014, Derby County confirmed the signing of Bamford on a loan until the end of the season."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Bamford


dreams are currently tax free ...
well they do have an opinion to have him back in January
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Janso on July 19, 2021, 10:24:32 pm
Not disputing that, Dickos. Where does it say I have?

Major rebuild not complete yet and we’re having to clear yet more out? It doesn’t sit right with me.

It's the same every year,but I reckon it may be more that,the board wisely don't want it banded around,we've enough available if the right player becomes available,then said parties often get greedy.Also,its a good excuse,to try and move dead wood on without making the players concerned look not good enough for prospective takers,a kind of business acumen.

Think you've hit the nail on the head. I don't understand why we'd want to go round telling everyone who'll listen we've got money to spend. Asking to be ripped off.

Just look at what happened with Bale and Suarez were sold - Spurs and Liverpool were sold shite at massively inflated prices because everyone knew they'd got an absolute fortune to spend on top of their regular millions.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: dickos1 on July 19, 2021, 11:07:13 pm
Not disputing that, Dickos. Where does it say I have?

Major rebuild not complete yet and we’re having to clear yet more out? It doesn’t sit right with me.

For the middle of July, this has been the best summer of recruitment we’ve had for a very long time
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: MachoMadness on July 19, 2021, 11:29:27 pm
Not disputing that, Dickos. Where does it say I have?

Major rebuild not complete yet and we’re having to clear yet more out? It doesn’t sit right with me.

For the middle of July, this has been the best summer of recruitment we’ve had for a very long time
This. Although to be fair it needed to be, but that doesn't change the fact we've done some great business with more to come no doubt, despite the talk about the budget running low.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Chris Black come back on July 20, 2021, 07:58:51 am
It’s a good starting XI:

Jones
Knoyle
Williams
Anderson
Rowe

Smith
Close
Bostock

Taylor
Fejiri
Hiwula
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: steve@dcfd on July 20, 2021, 08:13:17 am
It’s a good starting XI:

Jones
Knoyle
Williams
Anderson
Rowe

Smith
Close
Bostock

Taylor
Fejiri
Hiwula
It is if Taylor and Fej are fit for the first game. Would like a DM in there if better than the ones we’ve got.
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Chris the Rover on July 20, 2021, 04:17:33 pm
Cukur might be involved, if he’s as promising as RW makes him sound. Ideal stand in for Fej?
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 20, 2021, 07:24:15 pm
It’s a bit strange we’ve heard nothing on Fej’s injury situation, whether he’s out for a long or short time and how he’s progressing, unless I’ve missed it?
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: Herman Hessian on July 20, 2021, 07:44:28 pm
6 foot 3 so imagine he won't have any trouble winning headers. Watford fans seem quite high on him, which is always a good sign!

You say that, but Neil Campbell was 6"3 also.

i don't think Clownshoes ever had the slightest problem in winning headers, to be fair - it was the fact that he had little or no ability to direct the ball after it had contacted his bonce that was more of an issue... ;)
Title: Re: New forward
Post by: roversdude on July 20, 2021, 10:06:39 pm
Tiago looked decent can hold the ball up, has a look of Richarlison