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Hound.I'm looking away from the specific and to the overall national picture. Look at that graph I posted. Yes, COVID has had an effect but it's barely a blip on the decade long trend that this shower has presided over.Hancock wants you to think that the NHS's problems are primarily due to COVID and that he will battle on your behalf to overcome them. Whereas in reality they are due to the real terms spending cuts which are in turn due to the f**king Austerity that he championed.You choose if you want to be misled by his current words. Me, I see the sort of politician that makes my blood boil.
The pair of you. Have a look at that graph, then get back to me. Or if you can't be arsed, I'll point out the salient fact. That graph says waiting lists are EXACTLY where you'd expect them to be given the decade long trend under the Tories. Twice as many people waiting for operations as there were when this shower took over.They WANT you to think the NHS problems are due to COVID. Look at that graph. They are not.
BFYPWaiting lists have gone up under the Tories because the funding has not anywhere near gone up with demand. It's a worldwide feature that as population age increases and expectations increase, you have to increase health funding in real terms just to stand still. Our spending as a % of GDP has flatlined for the past decade while most comparable countries have increased theirs. That's the core reason why our waiting lists have doubled to 4million in a decade. Of course COVID has exacerbated that, but as that graph shows COVID has had a minimal effect on the trend. An honest politician would address the root cause. Hancock has been a central reason for the root causes. But a dishonest politician like him will of course try to fool people by deflecting the blame. Looks like he's succeeding in that given some of the responses in here.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 13, 2021, 11:35:25 pmBFYPWaiting lists have gone up under the Tories because the funding has not anywhere near gone up with demand. It's a worldwide feature that as population age increases and expectations increase, you have to increase health funding in real terms just to stand still. Our spending as a % of GDP has flatlined for the past decade while most comparable countries have increased theirs. That's the core reason why our waiting lists have doubled to 4million in a decade. Of course COVID has exacerbated that, but as that graph shows COVID has had a minimal effect on the trend. An honest politician would address the root cause. Hancock has been a central reason for the root causes. But a dishonest politician like him will of course try to fool people by deflecting the blame. Looks like he's succeeding in that given some of the responses in here.Based on that, Hancock must have indoctrinated people within the NHS because they, from the front line, are telling patients that they are behind with appointments because of COVID.I sometimes think that if Hancock pointed to a red car and told you it was red, you would call him a liar.
Quote from: drfchound on May 14, 2021, 07:31:54 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 13, 2021, 11:35:25 pmBFYPWaiting lists have gone up under the Tories because the funding has not anywhere near gone up with demand. It's a worldwide feature that as population age increases and expectations increase, you have to increase health funding in real terms just to stand still. Our spending as a % of GDP has flatlined for the past decade while most comparable countries have increased theirs. That's the core reason why our waiting lists have doubled to 4million in a decade. Of course COVID has exacerbated that, but as that graph shows COVID has had a minimal effect on the trend. An honest politician would address the root cause. Hancock has been a central reason for the root causes. But a dishonest politician like him will of course try to fool people by deflecting the blame. Looks like he's succeeding in that given some of the responses in here.Based on that, Hancock must have indoctrinated people within the NHS because they, from the front line, are telling patients that they are behind with appointments because of COVID.I sometimes think that if Hancock pointed to a red car and told you it was red, you would call him a liar.I’d certainly compare it with a colour chart just to check
Only just catching up so are you saying what Hancock said is true hound? NHS waiting times are due to covid and only covid?And there isn't for instance a 'policy' to deny certain treatments to certain patients so they either do without or go private?https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ournhs/terrifying-truth-about-those-deciding-future-nhs/I often think that if Hancock (who told the media a member of his team had been punched by a Labour activist when there was an actual video showing him walking into a bloke waving his arms about) or any other Tory politician told you a red car was blue you would swear it was blue.
Quote from: wilts rover on May 14, 2021, 08:04:31 amOnly just catching up so are you saying what Hancock said is true hound? NHS waiting times are due to covid and only covid?And there isn't for instance a 'policy' to deny certain treatments to certain patients so they either do without or go private?https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ournhs/terrifying-truth-about-those-deciding-future-nhs/I often think that if Hancock (who told the media a member of his team had been punched by a Labour activist when there was an actual video showing him walking into a bloke waving his arms about) or any other Tory politician told you a red car was blue you would swear it was blue.Quick reply wilts as I am going out to play golf.I haven’t said that waiting times are due to COVID only, you have suggested that hat I have.Regards to second paragraph, I’m not sure what you are getting at there.Regarding the colour thing, i was referring to BSTs hatred of Hancock which doesn’t apply to me because I don’t have a built in hatred of him or any other politician irrespective of Party.I am out now for quite a while so don’t you or anyone else posting cryptic messages think I am dodging when I don’t respond immediately.
4 dead from the Indian varient.Experts urging Johnson not to reopen on Monday.Johnson speaks to the nation at 5. I wonder if he will take their advice?