Brexit Benefits Log

[Glyn_Wigley]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1444589/eu-news-euro-eurozone-british-taxpayers-brexit-covid-debt-spt

The Express tried very hard to not say that they were loans and not contributions as they said in the headline, but they managed to sneak it out of the way and into the very last sentence.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Even for The Express that is a bizarre piece of "news". Writing today about a documentary from 2019.

I guess they have to dig up something on the EU every day to keep up Selby's blood pressure.

[Glyn_Wigley]

About something that happened eleven years ago, and on top of that try to distort the truth of it so that selby would post a link to it on here as though it proved something.

They also sneaked into the last sentence the fact that the UK were only liable to underwrite this fund, not that any 'contributions' were made at all.

The Daily Splutter.

[Metalmicky]

A bit of good news perhaps............ at least until it is derided in here of course.. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57347874

[selby]

  Get Switzerland involved, it could be the start of  a new idea, we could call it a non political Common Market, you would think someone would have thought of it before wouldn't you.

[Bentley Bullet]

A bit of good news perhaps............ at least until it is derided in here of course.. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57347874

No, but, yeah but, no but, yeah but, no...

[Glyn_Wigley]

A bit of good news perhaps............ at least until it is derided in here of course.. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57347874

Is it better than the one we had with them before Brexit?

[Glyn_Wigley]

A bit of good news perhaps............ at least until it is derided in here of course.. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57347874

Is it better than the one we had with them before Brexit?

It's been nearly two days now. Doesn't anybody touting this deal as a Brexit benefit have an answer to this very simple question?

[Sprotyrover]

What a great vote of confidence in the post-Brexit UK economy.

We need Hp Sauce back here too does anybody have a Source on any potential moves be Kraft

[BillyStubbsTears]

Good old Brexit Tsar.

1) Admits that "we" f**ked up with the NI protocol. (Who'd have thought it? You make trade harder and less trade happens! Why did nobody say?!?)

2) The result is that we are demanding that the EU gives up its red lines on the Protocol.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1401541479345098754

Still. We took back control, eh?

[wilts rover]

Didn't this bloke get a knighthood in part for his negotiating the NI Protocol? Hmmm...

[BillyStubbsTears]

Strange issue going on at the moment.

The very same politicians who got Brexit done and cost us a 4% hit to GDP are currently  trying to ram through a 0.2% of GDP cut in overseas aid on the grounds that it's important that we keep or money for ourselves.

[SydneyRover]

And yet .........

''Theresa May's former chief of staff is "pretty sure it's not true" that the government underestimated the impact of the NI Protocol when it agreed to it''

''Brexit: UK government knew NI Protocol 'was a bad deal'''

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-57382239

[Colemans Left Hook]

Even for The Express that is a bizarre piece of "news". Writing today about a documentary from 2019.

I guess they have to dig up something on the EU every day to keep up Selby's blood pressure.

well here's my contribution "to stimulate him" from 2009  what Cameron said at the tory conference about the EU
  these words actually came out of his mouth
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Going back to the referendum, most of the people I know who voted to leave said they voted that way “to get back control of our borders”
Not one of them said anything about unelected beurocrats.

funnily enough "as you will all recall"  Cameron (whose catch phrase once was "we are all in it together" (until he jumped ship) said this at the 2009 Tory Conference and  mentioned unelected beurocrats

Conservative Conference 2009 Thursday 8 October 2009 14.43 BST

Full text of David Cameron's speech


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/oct/08/david-cameron-speech-in-full

look near the end 7/8th's of the way down

"EU But if there is one political institution that needs decentralisation, transparency, and accountability, it is the EU.

For the past few decades, something strange has been happening on the left of British politics. People who think of themselves as progressives have fallen in love with an institution that no one elects, no one can remove, and that hasn't signed off its accounts for over a decade.

Indeed even to question these things is, apparently, completely beyond the pale. Well, here is a progressive reform plan for Europe.

Let's work together on the things where the EU can really help, like combating climate change, fighting global poverty and spreading free and fair trade.

But let's return to democratic and accountable politics the powers the EU shouldn't have.

And if we win the election, we will have as the strongest voice for our country's interests, the man who is leading our campaign for a referendum, the man who will be our new British Foreign Secretary: William Hague"

game set and match

funnily enough we had a conversation tonight as to whether Boris & Cameron would swear their allegances to their causes on the bible  so "chameleon" Cameron isn't doing too well

[BillyStubbsTears]

Something Benny Hill-esque about that prize bell end John Redwood on Twitter today saying the EU can't stop us having freedom of passage for our sausages.

More seriously, I despair at the deception by the Brexiters. Or, if we want to be kinder, there monumental ignorance.

They are up in arms about border checks in the Irish Sea for processed meats, when it was there in black and white in the Withdrawal Agreement that they hailed as a great success.

The line now seems to be that we never expected the EU were serious about requiring us to actually implement the WA, and they are being totally unreasonable.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Look at this one for example. Alister Heath, the editor of the Sunday Telegraph and arch-Brexiter.

Article on the left was him last year lauding Johnson for skillfully negotiating the WA with the NI protocol.

Article on the right is him yesterday screaming at the EU for sticking to the NI protocol.

https://mobile.twitter.com/t0nyyates/status/1402901278427168773

I'm not sure what it will ever take to get Leave supporters to realise the extent to which they have been, and continue to be played on this.

[SydneyRover]

Not sure why you would put up with that as a paying reader, it's an insult.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Disgusting isn't it?

Last Autumn he said Johnson had "forced the EU juggernaut into a screeching U-turn"

Yesterday he says that the NI Protocol was the EU in "kamikaze mode", that we were "forced to sign it under duress" and that it was "designed to punish us"

As someone else points out in that thread, Umberto Eco (who knew a bit about the topic) said one of the 14 features of fascism is that you must paint your enemies as simultaneously weak and snivelling creatures, and overmighty existential threats.

Classic case of it there from that t**t from the Telegraph.

[belton rover]

Look at this one for example. Alister Heath, the editor of the Sunday Telegraph and arch-Brexiter.

Article on the left was him last year lauding Johnson for skillfully negotiating the WA with the NI protocol.

Article on the right is him yesterday screaming at the EU for sticking to the NI protocol.

https://mobile.twitter.com/t0nyyates/status/1402901278427168773

I'm not sure what it will ever take to get Leave supporters to realise the extent to which they have been, and continue to be played on this.

Billy. What’s your priority motive here? Is it to show that the leave campaign was based on lies, or is it just that you want leave supporters to ‘admit’ they were duped?

What do YOU want to happen next?

[Not Now Kato]

A bit of good news perhaps............ at least until it is derided in here of course.. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57347874

Is it better than the one we had with them before Brexit?

Not according to the article MM linked!
 
"In terms of their overall trade volumes, this deal is more significant for Norway and Iceland than it is for the UK.

But politically, it's really important for the post-Brexit British government to show that new trade deals are being done quickly. Even if - as the Norwegian side points out - it is less open than the previous relationship inside the same single market. "

[Glyn_Wigley]

A bit of good news perhaps............ at least until it is derided in here of course.. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57347874

Is it better than the one we had with them before Brexit?

Not according to the article MM linked!
 
"In terms of their overall trade volumes, this deal is more significant for Norway and Iceland than it is for the UK.

But politically, it's really important for the post-Brexit British government to show that new trade deals are being done quickly. Even if - as the Norwegian side points out - it is less open than the previous relationship inside the same single market. "

So it was already derided in the article itself.

[SydneyRover]

this will be difficult to explain away as biased media ........... it's their own f***king words

''How Tories changed their tune on Northern Ireland protocol''

''Some of the most vocal critics of the post-Brexit arrangements had a vastly different view last year''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/11/how-tories-changed-their-tune-on-northern-ireland-protocol

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well this looks like a Brexit benefit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1403459375566622721

City of London reforms to be led by IDS. The man who brought you the unqualified success of Universal Credit.

Looks like a useful first step towards making the financial sector less dominant in the UK...

[Metalmicky]

The UK/OZ trade deal looks to have been cemented.....

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-scott-morrison-tony-abbott-australia-liz-truss-b940631.html

[SydneyRover]

kangaroo steak is not bad and roo tail soup is a favourite amongst old diggers

[Metalmicky]

kangaroo steak is not bad and roo tail soup is a favourite amongst old diggers

I've had kangaroo steak - was very nice - lean with a little bit of gaminess, but not too strong.  I'd imagine roo tail soup is similar to oxtail soup...?

[SydneyRover]

I agree about roo steak but not everyone likes them, I used to work with a guy that went shooting and said the soup was great but I haven't tried it. There's about a million culled each year mostly going to pet food.

https://www.petcircle.com.au/product/meals-for-mutts-dry-dog-food-adult-kangaroo-and-lamb/m5155?&iv_=__iv_p_1_a_6559682568_g_81226420960_w_pla-935146286524_h_1000286_ii__d_c_v__n_u_c_385656323924_k__m__l__t__e__r__x__y_9484867_f_online_o_M5155_z_AU_i_en_j_935146286524_s__vi__&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwrGFmdKZ8QIVjDgrCh1CVQ-gEAQYASABEgJ3H_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[Ldr]

Any mention of Sherrins Syd? My club could do with some more

[SydneyRover]

Any mention of Sherrins Syd? My club could do with some more

Only regarding sheep as in not sherrin with anyone Ldr

[Sprotyrover]

Any mention of Sherrins Syd? My club could do with some more

Only regarding sheep as in not sherrin with anyone Ldr

Not so long ago you was promising us burnt Goats head's .
When will this Aussie staple be on the market and have you got any recipe
Ideas?