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For job roles such as HGV and Police we should be training up soldiers about to leave the army, to give them the future they have earned, rather than leaving them to become homeless.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 12, 2021, 11:25:22 amQuote from: belton rover on August 11, 2021, 09:18:08 pmSo potentially, Glyn, 100,000 new jobs with excellent pay! You’re good at this Brexit benefit lark, aren’t you?The only problem is, you can't just get HGV drivers off the street. Where are they going to come from, and how is stuff going to get delivered while we're waiting for them all to get qualified?If you haven't got an answer to that you're not very good at this Brexit lark, are you?You’re not very good at coming up with your own phrases are you?It was your Brexit benefit, not mine.
Quote from: belton rover on August 11, 2021, 09:18:08 pmSo potentially, Glyn, 100,000 new jobs with excellent pay! You’re good at this Brexit benefit lark, aren’t you?The only problem is, you can't just get HGV drivers off the street. Where are they going to come from, and how is stuff going to get delivered while we're waiting for them all to get qualified?If you haven't got an answer to that you're not very good at this Brexit lark, are you?
So potentially, Glyn, 100,000 new jobs with excellent pay! You’re good at this Brexit benefit lark, aren’t you?
It wasn’t my benefit, Glyn, it was yours. I just pointed it out to you. It’s not up to me to put meat on your Brexit benefit bones.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on August 12, 2021, 01:09:58 pmFor job roles such as HGV and Police we should be training up soldiers about to leave the army, to give them the future they have earned, rather than leaving them to become homeless.I get the sentiment AL. But some soldiers would never make cops just like some cops would never make soldiers. Soldiers getting jobs as drivers though is pretty on point. Many do. I know of ex squaddies and ex cops who drive for a living. Not just trucks, but taxis and delivery stuff too. Problem is getting the training for those without c or c+e status. When I left the forces some of my mates went down the hazmat route (or whatever it is called these days ) Driving tankers and the like. It was always rumoured to be very good money doing that.
So you agree it's not a benefit then. Good.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 12, 2021, 08:33:55 pmSo you agree it's not a benefit then. Good.You put a Brexit benefit on here and then get upset when you can’t explain why it’s a benefit. Then you say it’s not a benefit.WUM
There you go Glyn - even our Sydney thinks it’s a benefit.
The only problem is, you can't just get HGV drivers off the street. Where are they going to come from, and how is stuff going to get delivered while we're waiting for them all to get qualified?
It will be a benefit to those 100,000 who get jobs as HGV drivers.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2021, 11:01:01 pmIt will be a benefit to those 100,000 who get jobs as HGV drivers.It's not a benefit to the country as a whole.
I mean we could just train up our unemployed as drivers, offer it as an option for school leavers etc couldn't we?We could also treat the drivers we do have a little better couldn't we? Financially they make a very good wage but the unsocial hours and treatment could be far better. Perhaps we need to be less reliant on cheap immigrant workforces and train up our population to fulfil skills we need.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 13, 2021, 10:54:17 amI mean we could just train up our unemployed as drivers, offer it as an option for school leavers etc couldn't we?We could also treat the drivers we do have a little better couldn't we? Financially they make a very good wage but the unsocial hours and treatment could be far better. Perhaps we need to be less reliant on cheap immigrant workforces and train up our population to fulfil skills we need.All good, positive points. Sometimes when options (cheaper ones, in this case) are removed, then it can be for the greater good.But it won’t be a quick fix. Mentalities of employers and potential employees would need to change - that will take time. Bur who said Brexit would be a short term, quick fix?
Quote from: belton rover on August 13, 2021, 11:09:25 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 13, 2021, 10:54:17 amI mean we could just train up our unemployed as drivers, offer it as an option for school leavers etc couldn't we?We could also treat the drivers we do have a little better couldn't we? Financially they make a very good wage but the unsocial hours and treatment could be far better. Perhaps we need to be less reliant on cheap immigrant workforces and train up our population to fulfil skills we need.All good, positive points. Sometimes when options (cheaper ones, in this case) are removed, then it can be for the greater good.But it won’t be a quick fix. Mentalities of employers and potential employees would need to change - that will take time. Bur who said Brexit would be a short term, quick fix? Many people during the leave campaign. Not least of all David Davis, Brexit Minister - “there will be no downside to Brexit at all, and considerable upsides”.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on August 14, 2021, 08:46:01 amQuote from: belton rover on August 13, 2021, 11:09:25 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 13, 2021, 10:54:17 amI mean we could just train up our unemployed as drivers, offer it as an option for school leavers etc couldn't we?We could also treat the drivers we do have a little better couldn't we? Financially they make a very good wage but the unsocial hours and treatment could be far better. Perhaps we need to be less reliant on cheap immigrant workforces and train up our population to fulfil skills we need.All good, positive points. Sometimes when options (cheaper ones, in this case) are removed, then it can be for the greater good.But it won’t be a quick fix. Mentalities of employers and potential employees would need to change - that will take time. Bur who said Brexit would be a short term, quick fix? Many people during the leave campaign. Not least of all David Davis, Brexit Minister - “there will be no downside to Brexit at all, and considerable upsides”.Not. I can’t shake of this nagging feeling that you don’t really want to hear about any Brexit benefits.
Let's take back control ................. If anyone offered a deal such as brexit to a business, we're going to take you away from your major market and give you enough paperwork to keep you busy for a couple of years, give your competitors the chance to grab your customers ............. ooh yes please, do it now
Quote from: belton rover on August 14, 2021, 09:18:18 amQuote from: Not Now Kato on August 14, 2021, 08:46:01 amQuote from: belton rover on August 13, 2021, 11:09:25 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 13, 2021, 10:54:17 amI mean we could just train up our unemployed as drivers, offer it as an option for school leavers etc couldn't we?We could also treat the drivers we do have a little better couldn't we? Financially they make a very good wage but the unsocial hours and treatment could be far better. Perhaps we need to be less reliant on cheap immigrant workforces and train up our population to fulfil skills we need.All good, positive points. Sometimes when options (cheaper ones, in this case) are removed, then it can be for the greater good.But it won’t be a quick fix. Mentalities of employers and potential employees would need to change - that will take time. Bur who said Brexit would be a short term, quick fix? Many people during the leave campaign. Not least of all David Davis, Brexit Minister - “there will be no downside to Brexit at all, and considerable upsides”.Not. I can’t shake of this nagging feeling that you don’t really want to hear about any Brexit benefits. You are so wrong Belton. I can't wait to here all these benefits we've achieved. After all, we were promised so much. Got any to report?
Quote from: SydneyRover on August 14, 2021, 08:59:34 amLet's take back control ................. If anyone offered a deal such as brexit to a business, we're going to take you away from your major market and give you enough paperwork to keep you busy for a couple of years, give your competitors the chance to grab your customers ............. ooh yes please, do it now Problem is SR, people who have been conned typically find it very hard to admit they've been conned. Happens all the time - which is of great benefit to the conmen.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on August 14, 2021, 10:28:05 pmQuote from: belton rover on August 14, 2021, 09:18:18 amQuote from: Not Now Kato on August 14, 2021, 08:46:01 amQuote from: belton rover on August 13, 2021, 11:09:25 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 13, 2021, 10:54:17 amI mean we could just train up our unemployed as drivers, offer it as an option for school leavers etc couldn't we?We could also treat the drivers we do have a little better couldn't we? Financially they make a very good wage but the unsocial hours and treatment could be far better. Perhaps we need to be less reliant on cheap immigrant workforces and train up our population to fulfil skills we need.All good, positive points. Sometimes when options (cheaper ones, in this case) are removed, then it can be for the greater good.But it won’t be a quick fix. Mentalities of employers and potential employees would need to change - that will take time. Bur who said Brexit would be a short term, quick fix? Many people during the leave campaign. Not least of all David Davis, Brexit Minister - “there will be no downside to Brexit at all, and considerable upsides”.Not. I can’t shake of this nagging feeling that you don’t really want to hear about any Brexit benefits. You are so wrong Belton. I can't wait to here all these benefits we've achieved. After all, we were promised so much. Got any to report?LOL
Quote from: belton rover on August 14, 2021, 11:13:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on August 14, 2021, 10:28:05 pmQuote from: belton rover on August 14, 2021, 09:18:18 amQuote from: Not Now Kato on August 14, 2021, 08:46:01 amQuote from: belton rover on August 13, 2021, 11:09:25 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 13, 2021, 10:54:17 amI mean we could just train up our unemployed as drivers, offer it as an option for school leavers etc couldn't we?We could also treat the drivers we do have a little better couldn't we? Financially they make a very good wage but the unsocial hours and treatment could be far better. Perhaps we need to be less reliant on cheap immigrant workforces and train up our population to fulfil skills we need.All good, positive points. Sometimes when options (cheaper ones, in this case) are removed, then it can be for the greater good.But it won’t be a quick fix. Mentalities of employers and potential employees would need to change - that will take time. Bur who said Brexit would be a short term, quick fix? Many people during the leave campaign. Not least of all David Davis, Brexit Minister - “there will be no downside to Brexit at all, and considerable upsides”.Not. I can’t shake of this nagging feeling that you don’t really want to hear about any Brexit benefits. You are so wrong Belton. I can't wait to here all these benefits we've achieved. After all, we were promised so much. Got any to report?LOL LOL? Ah, yes, leave voters believed Lots Of Lies..... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/list-of-brexit-lies&ved=2ahUKEwjJ4r3zwbLyAhUMTsAKHcTbDvwQFnoECDQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2dLeP7mRn5yCO5DsETowAn&cshid=1629013548222