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Title: ATS
Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 10:04:55 am
Thank the lord, an absolute travesty of a footballer. Looked to be a bag of nerves every time he stepped onto a pitch. Back up to Scotland son where even I could make it and I'm 46
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Post by: GazLaz on May 09, 2017, 10:10:34 am
He's useless.
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Post by: Chris Black come back on May 09, 2017, 10:12:28 am
I will remember him fondly for his one "pass" which was usually launched pin point to the opposition right back with amazing accuracy and consistency.
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Post by: ballysbackin on May 09, 2017, 10:13:49 am
Give the man a break, all the BB have got rid of him as well as his injury, he may come back to haunt the BB
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Post by: IDM on May 09, 2017, 10:15:38 am
Although he was inconsistent to say the least, I will remember him more for the Burton game last season where he actually was excellent before picking up the bad injury.  I also remember the shocking treatment dished out to him by some of our fans that day.

He may not be the best player to pull on the hoops but I wish him all the best..
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Post by: RoversAlias on May 09, 2017, 10:25:33 am
Although he was inconsistent to say the least, I will remember him more for the Burton game last season where he actually was excellent before picking up the bad injury.  I also remember the shocking treatment dished out to him by some of our fans that day.

He may not be the best player to pull on the hoops but I wish him all the best..

100% agree. I fear for whoever our fans pick as the next vilified scapegoat.

Was ATS crap? Yes. Was he kept in the team after he should have been jettisoned? Absolutely. But he seems a nice enough lad, has some raw ability and has come back from a very bad injury. Best of luck to him in future.
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Post by: chrisd_123 on May 09, 2017, 10:35:21 am
He just wasn't good enough. Simple. Nothing against him as he seems a nice enough lad. Didn't deserve the abuse he got. He's not the one who brought himself on on Saturday is he?

I'll fondly remember his assist for Williams in that Crewe game. He always gave his all to be fair, and in that run at the turn of the year 15/16 he was playing well.
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Post by: idler on May 09, 2017, 11:18:15 am
He will probably be happier elsewhere. He might build confidence and move on with his career.
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Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 11:18:46 am
Give the man a break, all the BB have got rid of him as well as his injury, he may come back to haunt the BB

Err I doubt it very much
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Post by: ballysbackin on May 09, 2017, 11:20:15 am
You may - but others have in the past
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Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 11:49:27 am
I for one would be delighted if ATS was in a team opposing us, and would target him as a weak link.he has great physical attributes but has the heart of a pea
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Post by: drfchound on May 09, 2017, 12:16:56 pm
Pathetic of some of our supporters to boo one of our own players.
They were at it again when he came on at Hartlepool, before he had kicked the ball.
It destroyed Curtis Main before and it just doesnt help players build any confidence.
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Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on May 09, 2017, 12:19:08 pm
Hope he gets better treatment elsewhere. Can't fault the lad for effort.
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Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 01:02:40 pm
Pathetic of some of our supporters to boo one of our own players.
They were at it again when he came on at Hartlepool, before he had kicked the ball.
It destroyed Curtis Main before and it just doesnt help players build any confidence.
If our players can't take a few boos off a couple of dozen kids. They need to grow a pair. Hardly the gallowgate or stretford end.
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Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 01:03:22 pm
Hope he gets better treatment elsewhere. Can't fault the lad for effort.
Err yes you can.
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Post by: IDM on May 09, 2017, 01:07:14 pm
Pathetic of some of our supporters to boo one of our own players.
They were at it again when he came on at Hartlepool, before he had kicked the ball.
It destroyed Curtis Main before and it just doesnt help players build any confidence.
If our players can't take a few boos off a couple of dozen kids. They need to grow a pair. Hardly the gallowgate or stretford end.

If our supporters can't understand that the players don't deliberately go out to play badly, or that good players can have a bad game, or suffer a loss of form and confidence, they also need to grow a pair.

The clue is in the word "supporters"..

Criticise by all means, but the excessive stick some receive goes beyond what they deserve, the likes of Guy, Main, Evina, ATS...
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Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 01:44:44 pm
Pathetic of some of our supporters to boo one of our own players.
They were at it again when he came on at Hartlepool, before he had kicked the ball.
It destroyed Curtis Main before and it just doesnt help players build any confidence.
If our players can't take a few boos off a couple of dozen kids. They need to grow a pair. Hardly the gallowgate or stretford end.

If our supporters can't understand that the players don't deliberately go out to play badly, or that good players can have a bad game, or suffer a loss of form and confidence, they also need to grow a pair.

The clue is in the word "supporters"..

Criticise by all means, but the excessive stick some receive goes beyond what they deserve, the likes of Guy, Main, Evina, ATS...

And all the named have received abuse for a reason
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Post by: IDM on May 09, 2017, 01:49:11 pm
There is a big difference between criticism and abuse.

One can be justified, the other is unnecessary.
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Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on May 09, 2017, 02:08:02 pm
Hope he gets better treatment elsewhere. Can't fault the lad for effort.
Err yes you can.

Boring
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Post by: glosterred on May 09, 2017, 03:19:06 pm
Sad to see him go, he's been the best excuse for our woes since Lewis Guy was at the club



COYR
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Post by: wing commander on May 09, 2017, 03:26:39 pm
   The treatment he has had has been a disgrace imo...From our own fans goading him on twitter when he did his knee to the abuse he gets everytime he stepped on the pitch..Form is temporary and the lad CAN play but he was never going to turn it around with the treatment he got from some of you....I wouldn't care if was solely responsible for last seasons collapse,you could name 4 or 5 who were every bit as bad including Coppinger who I thought was abysmal last season...
   
Title: Re: ATS
Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 03:28:48 pm
Look the lad is simply and never has been good enough, even for 4th division football. He's stolen a wage for 2 years but i'm sure some cloggers in jockoland will give him a chance.
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 09, 2017, 03:28:57 pm
Sad to see him go, he's been the best excuse for our woes since Lewis Guy was at the club



COYR

And with Williams and Keegan going too. :(
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Post by: GazLaz on May 09, 2017, 03:36:20 pm
He lives next door to my brother in law at lakeside. If anyone's looking for a house to rent there will probably be one available soon!
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Post by: PDX_Rover on May 09, 2017, 03:49:43 pm
Pathetic of some of our supporters to boo one of our own players.
They were at it again when he came on at Hartlepool, before he had kicked the ball.
It destroyed Curtis Main before and it just doesnt help players build any confidence.
If our players can't take a few boos off a couple of dozen kids. They need to grow a pair. Hardly the gallowgate or stretford end.

If our supporters can't understand that the players don't deliberately go out to play badly, or that good players can have a bad game, or suffer a loss of form and confidence, they also need to grow a pair.

The clue is in the word "supporters"..

Criticise by all means, but the excessive stick some receive goes beyond what they deserve, the likes of Guy, Main, Evina, ATS...

And all the named have received abuse for a reason

You're a sad tw@t aren't you? Nothing but negative things to say. Keyboard warrior.
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Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 04:08:58 pm
ha ha yes i'm a keyboard warrior! it would seem to me that his detractors are only at matches and not on here then. The kid's cack and i don't care what you lilly livered, scab protecting liberals think.
Title: Re: ATS
Post by: CrippyCooke on May 09, 2017, 04:13:55 pm
ATS is clearly not good enough but Evina has always bothered me more. Cannot believe Ferguson extended his contract last year!
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Post by: foxbat on May 09, 2017, 04:18:30 pm
This calling someone a ' Liberal' whenever they disagree with you must come to a stop.
As if there is anything wrong with being a liberal . I'm proud to be one.
Not that it has anything whatsoever to do with football opinions.
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Post by: Chris Black come back on May 09, 2017, 04:56:42 pm
ATS is clearly not good enough but Evina has always bothered me more. Cannot believe Ferguson extended his contract last year!

This is actually more of a concerning point. Whatever you think about Evina (he can both impress and depress in the same match) it was Ferguson who gave him his 2.5 year contract extension....and then pretty much refused to pick him ever again! If you are going to dish out a contract to a senior player of that length and then never pick him again, you are just pissing good money up the wall.

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Post by: drfchound on May 09, 2017, 07:01:22 pm
Pathetic of some of our supporters to boo one of our own players.
They were at it again when he came on at Hartlepool, before he had kicked the ball.
It destroyed Curtis Main before and it just doesnt help players build any confidence.
If our players can't take a few boos off a couple of dozen kids. They need to grow a pair. Hardly the gallowgate or stretford end.




The people booing were clearly not young spotty faced kids though.
They were grown men who should know better.
I take it that you find it acceptable to abuse our own players.
Title: Re: ATS
Post by: esdailles left foot on May 09, 2017, 07:14:40 pm
Only the ones that have been consistently shit for 2 years and shouldn't be anywhere near a football field
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Post by: Sammy Chung was King on May 10, 2017, 03:02:57 am
Some of our fans are generally just angry with everything in life before they get to the game the players are seen as soft targets who won't answer back unlike the missus. We need to come away from a scapegoat for each season this was a young guy trying his best it didn't work out some don't. Why does it ever have to get personal with players why not support them while they wear the shirt?.
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Post by: idler on May 10, 2017, 09:35:11 am
Sammy every teams has one or more scapegoats. 6,000 fans at a game all having personal favourites and different views. The problem gets worse when a good few pick on one particular player and the volume increases.
Most players then get nervy on the ball and have one eye and ear on the crowd.
I always wonder about team spirit in this respect. The other players in a team hear it and does it put them off a bit as well. If I were playing next to someone who in my eyes was having a good game but getting stick I would be very frustrated if not downright angry.
Booing and decrying your own player can never have a positive ending.
Short or long term.
Title: Re: ATS
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 10, 2017, 06:35:57 pm
Like any performer, if you choose a profession in the public arena you have to be prepared to take  criticism as well as the plaudits. Whether the level of criticism is justified is another matter, it's personal opinion.
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Post by: rabjohns on May 10, 2017, 10:24:40 pm
A model pro,from what i saw he spent more time at Cantley Park than the groundsman.
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Post by: ballysbackin on May 11, 2017, 09:34:32 am
Some of our fans are generally just angry with everything in life before they get to the game the players are seen as soft targets who won't answer back unlike the missus. We need to come away from a scapegoat for each season this was a young guy trying his best it didn't work out some don't. Why does it ever have to get personal with players why not support them while they wear the shirt?.


I would support your comment 100%. There are some who just want to hate somebody on the pitch. week in and week out - we have seen players come in for it too often. ATS at the end of season 15-16 was not necessary and as for getting booed when he came on the field???? Tossers the lot who do that to a home player. i.e. Lawlor REcently - even Religion and Nationality are deemed tools to be used in hatred , you boys are nothing but NOTHING
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Post by: rich1471 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:39 am
ATS is clearly not good enough but Evina has always bothered me more. Cannot believe Ferguson extended his contract last year!

This is actually more of a concerning point. Whatever you think about Evina (he can both impress and depress in the same match) it was Ferguson who gave him his 2.5 year contract extension....and then pretty much refused to pick him ever again! If you are going to dish out a contract to a senior player of that length and then never pick him again, you are just pissing good money up the wall.


for me Evina ALWAYS looked lost playing at the back , when he played on the wing he was a different player looked confident could beat his man and gave that extra bit of protection for the defence as well
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Post by: Chris Black come back on May 11, 2017, 11:30:24 am
Ferguson clearly no fan though. Rarely on the bench and Ferguson tried to dump him before end of last window. Why the 2.5 year deal though?!?
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Post by: keith79 on May 11, 2017, 05:31:14 pm
i thought Ferguson rated ATS. i am sure he said he was a top player
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Post by: Al4475 on May 11, 2017, 06:14:03 pm
Maybe the extension for evina was written into his first contract if he triggered it through appearances? Just a thought! As for ATS - not sure fergie was ever really sold on him - I may be wrong he may have said he was a top player - but I got the impression from one of the mto events he was fuming about the stick and treatment ats came in for!
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 11, 2017, 06:39:22 pm
Time to move on. Need a Kwik Fit replacement.
Title: Re: ATS
Post by: keith79 on May 11, 2017, 06:48:09 pm
tommy spur anyone?
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Post by: roversdude on May 11, 2017, 07:34:12 pm
tommy spur anyone?

Now we are talking
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Post by: Retdon1 on May 11, 2017, 07:58:02 pm
tommy spur anyone?

I would take him back 100%. If we hadn't slow timed in getting him to resign his new contract last time then he might still have been here now.
Title: Re: ATS
Post by: RedJ on May 11, 2017, 08:40:10 pm
Back to this old story. Because if your agent knew a club like Blackburn were sniffing, you'd definitely sign up with Donny as quickly as possible wouldn't you...
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Post by: Herman Hessian on May 11, 2017, 08:44:48 pm
Back to this old story. Because if your agent knew a club like Blackburn were sniffing, you'd definitely sign up with Donny as quickly as possible wouldn't you...

maybe if you fancied being a big fish in a smaller pond - and Blackburn are supposed to be in dire straits from top to bottom - certainly don't give the impression of being able to offer a happy, well adjusted place of work; maybe if you fancied wages part-paid in chicken nuggets, mind...
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Post by: RedJ on May 11, 2017, 08:45:45 pm
Back to this old story. Because if your agent knew a club like Blackburn were sniffing, you'd definitely sign up with Donny as quickly as possible wouldn't you...

maybe if you fancied being a big fish in a smaller pond - and Blackburn are supposed to be in dire straits from top to bottom - certainly don't give the impression of being able to offer a happy, well adjusted place of work; maybe if you fancied wages part-paid in chicken nuggets, mind...
Nowt wrong with chicken nuggets.
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Post by: Herman Hessian on May 11, 2017, 08:48:43 pm
Back to this old story. Because if your agent knew a club like Blackburn were sniffing, you'd definitely sign up with Donny as quickly as possible wouldn't you...

maybe if you fancied being a big fish in a smaller pond - and Blackburn are supposed to be in dire straits from top to bottom - certainly don't give the impression of being able to offer a happy, well adjusted place of work; maybe if you fancied wages part-paid in chicken nuggets, mind...
Nowt wrong with chicken nuggets.

i'd expect panko-breaded escalopes from former premier league champions, to be fair...