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raggytash

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Ferguson
« on February 14, 2018, 12:20:21 pm by raggytash »
Well Darren,

You asked us to judge this season as it is ‘your’ team now...

I think the majority of fans will say the same.... thanks but no thanks....

No progress.
Boring football game after game.
No youth team progress whatsoever.
Players out of position for no apparent reason.
Signing loan players even though he’s never seen them play!!

The list is endless, but the big question is???
Is Ferguson the ‘yes’ man the lacklustre board have finally got?

It’s time they grew some b*llocks and got rid we can’t do any worse.



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nortikorner

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #1 on February 14, 2018, 12:25:14 pm by nortikorner »
Amen

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #2 on February 14, 2018, 12:28:06 pm by Chris Black come back »
I think some of that is unfair. He has done quite a lot to bring youth through and there is clearly a pipeline on loan at non league getting experience. Potentially some even ready for next season.

Hard to argue with the largely dull and disjointed football though. The team set up is perennially baffling.

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #3 on February 14, 2018, 12:41:18 pm by dickos1 »
Which loan signing hasn't he seen play?

IDM

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #4 on February 14, 2018, 12:54:58 pm by IDM »
I’m not on the Fergie out bandwagon, but continue as we are and he will be skating on very thin ice..

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #5 on February 14, 2018, 12:55:09 pm by wing commander »
    The problem I have with him is the defence and his basic dislike of fullbacks who do what a fullback should do.He doesn't seem to think it's a specialised position and anyone can play there..Yet we concede so many because we cant stop a cross or concede from cheap corners the centrebacks giveaway covering for them caught upfield...Drives me mad...

     That said we have to many players the fans think are wonderful but they are not..Rowe admittedly has been playing the above for a few games but he's been pinching money all season for me and I would get rid.Lawlor is giving so many cheap goals away but fans seem to think a couple of good saves make up for it all..That lad has had years under the best coaches in the world at City and is simply not good enough..
      Houghton hasn't been anywhere near the same player since he came back either and I could go on..
    You name our 11 last night and people would make a case for all of them but the bottom line is we don't create much of anything and give easy goals away and are second best in most games and are getting worse...

raggytash

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #6 on February 14, 2018, 01:00:47 pm by raggytash »
He said he’d never seen Anderson play and took it of Sean Dyche opinion, nothing to do with the fact he’s out of contract in may??? Shicking signing even the vale fans thought he was shite and look where they are!!

dickos1

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #7 on February 14, 2018, 01:12:19 pm by dickos1 »
Not heard that interview
To be fair he didn't have long to sign anyone never mind go and watch them play

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #8 on February 14, 2018, 01:19:31 pm by Mr1Croft »
I’d like to think we’ve been unlucky with injuries and inconsistency, but the reality is Fergie built of team of fringe players and a history of injuries. What did he really expect was going to happen?

Two implosions in the last two years cost us both our League One status and the League Two Title. 9 without a win and it’s all looking too familiar. It’s clear he’s learnt nothing.

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #9 on February 14, 2018, 01:19:46 pm by steve@dcfd »
Well Darren,

You asked us to judge this season as it is ‘your’ team now...

I think the majority of fans will say the same.... thanks but no thanks....

No progress.
Boring football game after game.
No youth team progress whatsoever.
Players out of position for no apparent reason.
Signing loan players even though he’s never seen them play!!

The list is endless, but the big question is???
Is Ferguson the ‘yes’ man the lacklustre board have finally got?

It’s time they grew some b*llocks and got rid we can’t do any worse.


No progress he is in the 2nd year of a five year program. He could not get his first choice players in the summer. Because of CH injuries we could not bring in better players in midfield or striker in the transfer window.
Overall the players we have will not progress the team.
The signing of one loan player he may not of seen was done in an emergency situation, we needed CHs.

Players out of position yes, you are right,  yet again go down to finance. In the summer we should have signed a right back, another centre half , left sided midfield player and another striker. When some of us said that we were told where do we think the money is coming from, so we utilise players in different position to make up for it.

Agreed about boring football and DF as to take blame about that but so do the players.

No youth team progress yes you are right, with a Academy 3 level players we won’t. We may get one or two. We need spend money and time and get our Academy to level 2. When they will play in the premier league U23 and Premier league cup. Also U18 down will play against better teams.

Looking at the board they have been there the same time as DF they have said 5 year plan. It involves getting young players to progress so we have not got to buy expensive, for DRFC, players. It’s all talk and you blame the manager but if he can’t get players to take us forward that’s down to the board as well.

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #10 on February 14, 2018, 01:55:30 pm by bobbymax »
He said he’d never seen Anderson play and took it of Sean Dyche opinion, nothing to do with the fact he’s out of contract in may??? Shicking signing even the vale fans thought he was shite and look where they are!!
Actually, the Vale fans rated him as a solid defender and were furious he'd been recalled. But why let the truth get in the way of a rant?

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« Reply #11 on February 14, 2018, 02:05:09 pm by RoversAlias »
We had only a few days to find emergency replacements at centre half and Anderson was probably one of the few available who is actually match fit having played all season for Port Vale. On paper and considering the time pressure I think it was a sensible move. Fergie didn't cause Baudry, Butler and Wright to all get injured at once and I'm sick of seeing criticism about the replacements signed because it was either them or no one basically.

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« Reply #12 on February 14, 2018, 02:18:45 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Who's to say our Head of Recruitment didn't watch him either?

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« Reply #13 on February 14, 2018, 02:24:13 pm by Campsall rover »
We had only a few days to find emergency replacements at centre half and Anderson was probably one of the few available who is actually match fit having played all season for Port Vale. On paper and considering the time pressure I think it was a sensible move. Fergie didn't cause Baudry, Butler and Wright to all get injured at once and I'm sick of seeing criticism about the replacements signed because it was either them or no one basically.
I agree there RoversAlias those injuries were beyond Fergies control and he did well to find 2 decent centre backs at such short notice. And they are decent. Who was he supposed to get? Credit to the manager when it’s justified and it was in that scenario.

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« Reply #14 on February 14, 2018, 02:40:12 pm by graingrover »
He is OK by me . If we had had 2 of the three injured defenders last night we would have been ok . I presume we will finish midtable and that is Ok by me .

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« Reply #15 on February 14, 2018, 02:55:21 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
He said he’d never seen Anderson play and took it of Sean Dyche opinion, nothing to do with the fact he’s out of contract in may??? Shicking signing even the vale fans thought he was shite and look where they are!!
Actually, the Vale fans rated him as a solid defender and were furious he'd been recalled. But why let the truth get in the way of a rant?

i was going to look up the facts (postings about how pi$$ed of the pv fans were for him to be recalled) but why let the "facts" get in the way of a good moan

posters card well and truely marked  :boxing: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

nortikorner

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #16 on February 14, 2018, 03:16:26 pm by nortikorner »
A pro active manager would be looking at all position all season and not be caught out at the last minute all season we have been short on the defence

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« Reply #17 on February 14, 2018, 04:21:28 pm by steve@dcfd »
A pro active manager would be looking at all position all season and not be caught out at the last minute all season we have been short on the defence

Proactive board would make sure the budget he had to work from was big enough for him to get players we required. We have been short of league 1 quality players all over the pitch.

esdailles left foot

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« Reply #18 on February 14, 2018, 04:24:18 pm by esdailles left foot »
Not heard that interview
To be fair he didn't have long to sign anyone never mind go and watch them play

he's had 18 months to scout potential signings. Just because you've not heard an interview doesn't mean it won't exist. jeeessssuuuussss !!!!!!!!!!
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esdailles left foot

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« Reply #19 on February 14, 2018, 04:27:58 pm by esdailles left foot »
We had only a few days to find emergency replacements at centre half and Anderson was probably one of the few available who is actually match fit having played all season for Port Vale. On paper and considering the time pressure I think it was a sensible move. Fergie didn't cause Baudry, Butler and Wright to all get injured at once and I'm sick of seeing criticism about the replacements signed because it was either them or no one basically.

any decent manager has an extended scouted player portfolio to cover any eventuality. But i did say decent.

esdailles left foot

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #20 on February 14, 2018, 04:31:45 pm by esdailles left foot »
He is OK by me . If we had had 2 of the three injured defenders last night we would have been ok . I presume we will finish midtable and that is Ok by me .

BUT WE WOULDN'T for christs sake wake up. we've been conceding through schoolboy errors for the last 18 months and will continue to do so until it's been addressed. How on earth can you still defend him. You lot deserve everything you get, the apathy and acceptability of shite is simply staggering and that Dickos cretin is the worst of the lot.

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« Reply #21 on February 14, 2018, 04:34:30 pm by DonnyOsmond »
He is OK by me . If we had had 2 of the three injured defenders last night we would have been ok . I presume we will finish midtable and that is Ok by me .

BUT WE WOULDN'T for christs sake wake up. we've been conceding through schoolboy errors for the last 18 months and will continue to do so until it's been addressed. How on earth can you still defend him. You lot deserve everything you get, the apathy and acceptability of shite is simply staggering and that Dickos cretin is the worst of the lot.

We had the 5th best goals against record only a few games ago.

dickos1

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« Reply #22 on February 14, 2018, 04:42:15 pm by dickos1 »
Not heard that interview
To be fair he didn't have long to sign anyone never mind go and watch them play

he's had 18 months to scout potential signings you cock. Just because you've not heard an interview doesn't mean it won't exist. jeeessssuuuussss !!!!!!!!!!

What's in gods name are you on about I'm saying I haven't heard the interview cause I haven't heard the interview you absolute clown.

dickos1

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« Reply #23 on February 14, 2018, 04:44:53 pm by dickos1 »
He is OK by me . If we had had 2 of the three injured defenders last night we would have been ok . I presume we will finish midtable and that is Ok by me .

BUT WE WOULDN'T for christs sake wake up. we've been conceding through schoolboy errors for the last 18 months and will continue to do so until it's been addressed. How on earth can you still defend him. You lot deserve everything you get, the apathy and acceptability of shite is simply staggering and that Dickos cretin is the worst of the lot.

18 months
Ha ha you mean the season when we achieved possible our most comfortable promotion of all time. What a dipstick

esdailles left foot

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« Reply #24 on February 14, 2018, 04:55:21 pm by esdailles left foot »
comfortable promotion. coming 3rd in a 1 horse race  :ohmy: :turd:

dickos1

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« Reply #25 on February 14, 2018, 05:04:01 pm by dickos1 »
We got promoted with 5 games to go.
You're even dafter than I feared

drfchound

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« Reply #26 on February 14, 2018, 05:15:25 pm by drfchound »
We had only a few days to find emergency replacements at centre half and Anderson was probably one of the few available who is actually match fit having played all season for Port Vale. On paper and considering the time pressure I think it was a sensible move. Fergie didn't cause Baudry, Butler and Wright to all get injured at once and I'm sick of seeing criticism about the replacements signed because it was either them or no one basically.






I agree that the injuries were not the fault of the manager.
However, it is clear that the two new players are not as comfortable on the ball as the three injured players so why did he start with a three at the back and continue to have the ball rolled out to them to build from there.
Surely in this situation a solid back four with Houghton and McCullough in front of them would have been better in an away game against a team with a strong recent home record.

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« Reply #27 on February 14, 2018, 05:36:54 pm by IDM »
comfortable promotion. coming 3rd in a 1 horse race  :ohmy: :turd:

I seem to remember League 2 having 24 teams, not just 1...

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« Reply #28 on February 14, 2018, 05:45:21 pm by drfchound »
comfortable promotion. coming 3rd in a 1 horse race  :ohmy: :turd:

I seem to remember League 2 having 24 teams, not just 1...





To be fair, with five games to play there was only one team going to win the title.

esdailles left foot

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Re: Ferguson
« Reply #29 on February 14, 2018, 05:59:57 pm by esdailles left foot »
I have and never will forgive him for the hartlepool debacle.

 

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