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Quote from: tommy toes on March 08, 2024, 08:21:15 pmA woman on the radio gave a good analogy of the budget.She said its like leaving a bag of prawns under the ceiling tiles on the last day at school, to stink the place out for the next lot.By the way Clement Attlee was the best PM ever....In 2004, he was voted the most successful British Prime Minister of the 20th century by a poll of 139 academics. The majority of those responses singled out the Attlee government's welfare state reforms and the creation of the NHS as the key 20th century domestic policy achievementsHe did have £25 billion ish in today’s money given to him on a plate to invest (British share of Marshall plan)!did he spend it wisely?https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/modern/marshall_01.shtml
A woman on the radio gave a good analogy of the budget.She said its like leaving a bag of prawns under the ceiling tiles on the last day at school, to stink the place out for the next lot.By the way Clement Attlee was the best PM ever....In 2004, he was voted the most successful British Prime Minister of the 20th century by a poll of 139 academics. The majority of those responses singled out the Attlee government's welfare state reforms and the creation of the NHS as the key 20th century domestic policy achievements
The NHS system is the envy of the world and the tory attempts to trash it will provide most of Labours campaign slogans .............tories we took out ₤350m a week from the NHSsaw it on the side of a bus
Quote from: Sprotyrover on March 08, 2024, 08:36:04 pmQuote from: tommy toes on March 08, 2024, 08:21:15 pmA woman on the radio gave a good analogy of the budget.She said its like leaving a bag of prawns under the ceiling tiles on the last day at school, to stink the place out for the next lot.By the way Clement Attlee was the best PM ever....In 2004, he was voted the most successful British Prime Minister of the 20th century by a poll of 139 academics. The majority of those responses singled out the Attlee government's welfare state reforms and the creation of the NHS as the key 20th century domestic policy achievementsHe did have £25 billion ish in today’s money given to him on a plate to invest (British share of Marshall plan)!did he spend it wisely?https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/modern/marshall_01.shtmlLike all your posts when you try to criticise Labour, I'll say.. Is that all you've got?Look at what the Attlee government did with that money, they laid the foundation of a better and fairer society that all of us have benefitted from.The Tories spaffed more than that, in today's money, on dodgy PPE contracts with their mates.
Quote from: SydneyRover on March 09, 2024, 09:30:09 amThe NHS system is the envy of the world and the tory attempts to trash it will provide most of Labours campaign slogans .............tories we took out ₤350m a week from the NHSsaw it on the side of a busI bet you miss our NHS in your new Homeland Syd how does healthcare downunder compare to that which you shunned!
Quote from: tommy toes on March 09, 2024, 09:16:41 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on March 08, 2024, 08:36:04 pmQuote from: tommy toes on March 08, 2024, 08:21:15 pmA woman on the radio gave a good analogy of the budget.She said its like leaving a bag of prawns under the ceiling tiles on the last day at school, to stink the place out for the next lot.By the way Clement Attlee was the best PM ever....In 2004, he was voted the most successful British Prime Minister of the 20th century by a poll of 139 academics. The majority of those responses singled out the Attlee government's welfare state reforms and the creation of the NHS as the key 20th century domestic policy achievementsHe did have £25 billion ish in today’s money given to him on a plate to invest (British share of Marshall plan)!did he spend it wisely?https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/modern/marshall_01.shtmlLike all your posts when you try to criticise Labour, I'll say.. Is that all you've got?Look at what the Attlee government did with that money, they laid the foundation of a better and fairer society that all of us have benefitted from.The Tories spaffed more than that, in today's money, on dodgy PPE contracts with their mates. So you make out that The Tories fiddled away £25 Billion on dodgy PPE deals? Show me the evidence?
Quote from: Sprotyrover on March 08, 2024, 08:36:04 pmQuote from: tommy toes on March 08, 2024, 08:21:15 pmA woman on the radio gave a good analogy of the budget.She said its like leaving a bag of prawns under the ceiling tiles on the last day at school, to stink the place out for the next lot.By the way Clement Attlee was the best PM ever....In 2004, he was voted the most successful British Prime Minister of the 20th century by a poll of 139 academics. The majority of those responses singled out the Attlee government's welfare state reforms and the creation of the NHS as the key 20th century domestic policy achievementsHe did have £25 billion ish in today’s money given to him on a plate to invest (British share of Marshall plan)!did he spend it wisely?https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/modern/marshall_01.shtmlLike all your posts when you try to criticise Labour, I'll say.. Is that all you've got?Look at what the Attlee government did with that money, they laid the foundation of a better and fairer society that all of us have benefitted from.The Tories spaffed more than that, in today's money, on dodgy PPE contracts with their mates.
Quote from: tommy toes on March 08, 2024, 08:21:15 pmA woman on the radio gave a good analogy of the budget.She said its like leaving a bag of prawns under the ceiling tiles on the last day at school, to stink the place out for the next lot.By the way Clement Attlee was the best PM ever....In 2004, he was voted the most successful British Prime Minister of the 20th century by a poll of 139 academics. The majority of those responses singled out the Attlee government's welfare state reforms and the creation of the NHS as the key 20th century domestic policy achievementsHe did have £25 billion ish in today’s money given to him on a plate to invest (British share of Marshall plan)!did he spend it wisely?https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/modern/marshall_01.shtml
A woman on the radio gave a good analogy of the budget.She said its like leaving a bag of prawns under the ceiling tiles on the last day at school, to stink the place out for the next lot.By the way Clement Attlee was the best PM ever....In 2004, he was voted the most successful British Prime Minister of the 20th century by a poll of 139 academics. The majority of those responses singled out the Attlee government's welfare state reforms and the creation of the NHS as the key 20th century domestic policy achievements
Quote from: Sprotyrover on March 09, 2024, 10:47:11 amQuote from: tommy toes on March 09, 2024, 09:16:41 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on March 08, 2024, 08:36:04 pmQuote from: tommy toes on March 08, 2024, 08:21:15 pmA woman on the radio gave a good analogy of the budget.She said its like leaving a bag of prawns under the ceiling tiles on the last day at school, to stink the place out for the next lot.By the way Clement Attlee was the best PM ever....In 2004, he was voted the most successful British Prime Minister of the 20th century by a poll of 139 academics. The majority of those responses singled out the Attlee government's welfare state reforms and the creation of the NHS as the key 20th century domestic policy achievementsHe did have £25 billion ish in today’s money given to him on a plate to invest (British share of Marshall plan)!did he spend it wisely?https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/modern/marshall_01.shtmlLike all your posts when you try to criticise Labour, I'll say.. Is that all you've got?Look at what the Attlee government did with that money, they laid the foundation of a better and fairer society that all of us have benefitted from.The Tories spaffed more than that, in today's money, on dodgy PPE contracts with their mates. So you make out that The Tories fiddled away £25 Billion on dodgy PPE deals? Show me the evidence?You're right Sproty.It was only a measly £10 billion.Chicken feed eh?https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/25/uk-government-wasted-nearly-10bn-on-unused-covid-ppe-figures-show?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17099814710298&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fpolitics%2F2024%2Fjan%2F25%2Fuk-government-wasted-nearly-10bn-on-unused-covid-ppe-figures-show
Back to the basics, just tax the rich, reduce inequality, improve society. The budget didn't do this.
Quote from: SydneyRover on March 07, 2024, 10:09:06 pm''Fiscal rules were a New Labour invention from 1997, designed to provide a camoflage cover for political ends''Albie, do you bump into tyke and others from off-topic when you are trawling for conspiracies about labour?Conspiracies? How can there be a conspiracy against a party that doesn't do anything? What is there to conspire about?
''Fiscal rules were a New Labour invention from 1997, designed to provide a camoflage cover for political ends''Albie, do you bump into tyke and others from off-topic when you are trawling for conspiracies about labour?
Albie: ''Fiscal rules were a New Labour invention from 1997, designed to provide a camoflage cover for political ends.These rules are revised on a regular basis, once it becomes clear they will not deliver the stated objectives''Cannot find anything to support the first sentence Albie, can you expand on what was being covered up? hope it's not another conspiracy theory.The Brown policies were a progression and refinement of what went before.1/ ''Gordon Brown’s first and main policy, when nominated Chancellor in 1997, was to reform the monetary framework by enforcing three major changes dedicated to maintaining price stability. He replaced the inflation target margin by a symmetrical inflation target rate that would correspond to a bearable equilibrium rate supporting growth. He created a Monetary Policy Committee at the Bank of England; he granted it complete independence in deciding and implementing any measure needed to reach the government’s target. He reinforced forward looking, asking the Committee to forecast inflation rates and to take corrective measures now, so that the rates would match the target in the future'' .............14/ ''Naturally, Gordon Brown’s construction of a new monetary framework did not come out of the blue. It found its origins in progressive theoretical thinking and recent partial implementation''https://journals.openedition.org/osb/1124
Rachael Reeves openly admitted to Kunesburg this morning that there will be no scope for any significant increases in social spending if we get a Labour Government gets in to power,as there are no Piggy banks left to plunder!
Quote from: Sprotyrover on March 10, 2024, 01:15:06 pmRachael Reeves openly admitted to Kunesburg this morning that there will be no scope for any significant increases in social spending if we get a Labour Government gets in to power,as there are no Piggy banks left to plunder!they could always flog whats left of the uk's gold reserve
Quote from: Sprotyrover on March 10, 2024, 01:15:06 pmRachael Reeves openly admitted to Kunesburg this morning that there will be no scope for any significant increases in social spending if we get a Labour Government gets in to power,as there are no Piggy banks left to plunder!They haven't yet actually told us what they are going to do? What do they want us to vote for them for? Not being the Tories?
Here you go Syd, from the IFS.This article explains why the use of fiscal rules is a convenient camouflage option for politicians.https://ifs.org.uk/articles/gaming-fiscal-rules-no-way-make-budget-policy
BFYP.Like I keep saying, Oppositions don't win elections. Governments lose them.You'll be too young to remember, but Blair came to power in a landslide, saying very little about what he wanted to do, and explicitly sticking to the Tories' spending plans.Thatcher never campaigned in 79 on the policy of having 15% interest rates to crush inflation, which would put 4 million out of work. She won because Labour had lost control in the Winter of Discontent.