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So with inflation going through the roof and the world in recession... was locking down still the right idea? It's a good job Russia did invade, given this government breathing space...everything can be blamed on that.This government is not sleep at the wheel, they F@cked off ages ago.
Quote from: SydneyRover on September 02, 2022, 12:15:24 pmQuote from: Ldr on September 02, 2022, 12:10:48 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on September 02, 2022, 11:29:51 amWe've been here before with the costs of deliberate health tourism, it works out around 0.3 of 1% of the NHS budget, hardly worth the effort of chasing it down.Still around 300million a yearLess costs and bother of chasing up debt from those that can't pay anywayNHS chases the government of the country for payment as a rule of thumb
Quote from: Ldr on September 02, 2022, 12:10:48 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on September 02, 2022, 11:29:51 amWe've been here before with the costs of deliberate health tourism, it works out around 0.3 of 1% of the NHS budget, hardly worth the effort of chasing it down.Still around 300million a yearLess costs and bother of chasing up debt from those that can't pay anyway
Quote from: SydneyRover on September 02, 2022, 11:29:51 amWe've been here before with the costs of deliberate health tourism, it works out around 0.3 of 1% of the NHS budget, hardly worth the effort of chasing it down.Still around 300million a year
We've been here before with the costs of deliberate health tourism, it works out around 0.3 of 1% of the NHS budget, hardly worth the effort of chasing it down.
Sydney. If you see a shark coming towards you in ‘attack mode’, can you frighten it off by hitting it on its nose?I believe a sharks nose is very sensitive. A bit like a man’s knackers.Thank you.
Quote from: Colin C No.3 on September 02, 2022, 02:20:59 pmSydney. If you see a shark coming towards you in ‘attack mode’, can you frighten it off by hitting it on its nose?I believe a sharks nose is very sensitive. A bit like a man’s knackers.Thank you.Talking b*llocks Col
Quote from: SydneyRover on September 02, 2022, 10:56:45 pmQuote from: Colin C No.3 on September 02, 2022, 02:20:59 pmSydney. If you see a shark coming towards you in ‘attack mode’, can you frighten it off by hitting it on its nose?I believe a sharks nose is very sensitive. A bit like a man’s knackers.Thank you.Talking b*llocks ColWell you don't mind giving someone else a chance to do that do you?
If only the media had never reported COVID. Maybe 200,000 UK people wouldn't have died of it.
Isn't Captain Hindsight a wonderful man to know .Let's not believe the medical experts , the data , the images that hit our tv screens from northern Italy in the early days , the ability of the NHS to cope with the scale of this thing .Let's not consider the elderly , those with serious health issues or anybody else for that matter .Were mistakes made , yes , is mental health important yes it is .Some people need to walk a few miles in the shoes of the people who had this pandemic to deal with .Folk like Neil Oliver spouting on GB News to his legion of conspiracy theorists didn't .
He was wrong because everyone has a human right to be able to go about their business. Whether carrying a deadly disease or not. Covid certainly is not for pretty much everyone who catches it and this was known before the lockdown. It is called freedom. Those worried about the deadly disease, secure your house and don't go out. Just don't tell others to do the same. No individual is permitted to control us.
Quote from: Panda on September 04, 2022, 01:09:19 pmHe was wrong because everyone has a human right to be able to go about their business. Whether carrying a deadly disease or not. Covid certainly is not for pretty much everyone who catches it and this was known before the lockdown. It is called freedom. Those worried about the deadly disease, secure your house and don't go out. Just don't tell others to do the same. No individual is permitted to control us.Presumably you'd have left all your lights on when the Luftwaffe was dropping bombs on us every night during the second world war .
It is because you refuse to accept that far more people and lives will be affected as a result of the lockdowns. Which is what is happening and will happen. Yes, people died of Covid but overall it is a drop in the ocean to the devastation to many people's lives as a result of the lockdowns. Which means the lockdowns were a huge mistake.
Quote from: tyke1962 on September 04, 2022, 01:53:29 pmQuote from: Panda on September 04, 2022, 01:09:19 pmHe was wrong because everyone has a human right to be able to go about their business. Whether carrying a deadly disease or not. Covid certainly is not for pretty much everyone who catches it and this was known before the lockdown. It is called freedom. Those worried about the deadly disease, secure your house and don't go out. Just don't tell others to do the same. No individual is permitted to control us.Presumably you'd have left all your lights on when the Luftwaffe was dropping bombs on us every night during the second world war .Most people during Covid would have acted as responsibly as they possible could with regards to trying to keep people safe without being forced to or dictated to by the Government. That was where the line was crossed. If there was another world war then most people would do their bit to help in solidarity to one cause WITHOUT BEING TOLD TO OR FORCED TO BY ANY GOVERNMENT. This is a basic freedom to make their own choices but most people would want to do whatever they could to help others. It is like sending all men to war just because they are a man. Utter nonsense. Many men were not suited to war but were conscripted anyway and died when they could have helped the war effort in other ways.
Quote from: Panda on September 04, 2022, 12:45:25 pmIt is because you refuse to accept that far more people and lives will be affected as a result of the lockdowns. Which is what is happening and will happen. Yes, people died of Covid but overall it is a drop in the ocean to the devastation to many people's lives as a result of the lockdowns. Which means the lockdowns were a huge mistake. You have a different opinion to me. My opinion is based on a careful and detailed analysis of the evidence. You are free to argue against any of that and I'm happy to explain why I think you are wrong.What you shouldn't do is call me a sheep or a virtue signaller. Please don't do it.
Quote from: Panda on September 04, 2022, 02:00:54 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on September 04, 2022, 01:53:29 pmQuote from: Panda on September 04, 2022, 01:09:19 pmHe was wrong because everyone has a human right to be able to go about their business. Whether carrying a deadly disease or not. Covid certainly is not for pretty much everyone who catches it and this was known before the lockdown. It is called freedom. Those worried about the deadly disease, secure your house and don't go out. Just don't tell others to do the same. No individual is permitted to control us.Presumably you'd have left all your lights on when the Luftwaffe was dropping bombs on us every night during the second world war .Most people during Covid would have acted as responsibly as they possible could with regards to trying to keep people safe without being forced to or dictated to by the Government. That was where the line was crossed. If there was another world war then most people would do their bit to help in solidarity to one cause WITHOUT BEING TOLD TO OR FORCED TO BY ANY GOVERNMENT. This is a basic freedom to make their own choices but most people would want to do whatever they could to help others. It is like sending all men to war just because they are a man. Utter nonsense. Many men were not suited to war but were conscripted anyway and died when they could have helped the war effort in other ways.Isn't Liberalism wonderful , it's just the bit where taking responsibility when you feck things up , inadvertently kill other people and lead to others suffering unnecessarily that you struggle with .