Tory Leader - Who's your preference?

[BillyStubbsTears]

And talking about Johnson's personality defects, look at how he responds when put under pressure.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-business-hustings-tory-leader-no-deal-brexit-a8970491.html

The f**king idiot had just produced the video clip that will be the core of Labour's next General Election campaign against him. And he did it because he was visibly bristling at being put on the spot, and he verbally lashed out without thinking.

As I say, and as many who know him say, he is utterly unfit for Govt.

[Sprotyrover]

He is far from perfect.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Can anyone tell me one thing that Johnson believes in?  One political vision that drives him? One principle that he holds to?

[SydneyRover]

Can anyone tell me one thing that Johnson believes in?  One political vision that drives him? One principle that he holds to?

B-O-R-I-S

[Glyn_Wigley]

What's the betting that if Boris continues to ignore questions about the row, or thinks he can try and billshut his way out of it, that a copy of the recording will be on social media in seconds flat?

[SydneyRover]

The Conservative Party have announced an enquiry to find out how a left wing couple could possibly afford to live in the same building as Boris and to see if they need to ramp up Austerity.

[wing commander]

    I'm no fan of Boris that's for sure but really this is quite pathetic as far as I'm concerned..This forum is supposed to be about debate but it's become more like a tory lynching.
    Here we have a bloke whose left wing remainer neighbour hates him with a passion..Who had a row with his misses (Frankly who hasn't).Now I haven't a problem that he was potentially concerned about her welfare (although in reality he couldn't give a toss probably).I also don't mind if he was concerned enough to call the Police to check (again in reality his eyes must have lit up).The Police arrived,checked the tape,spoke to the occupants and quickly found everything was fine and left..

Now here's where I do have a problem,in supposedly public interest he decided to send and give a interview to the Guardian..A left based paper that frankly I give as much consideration to as you lot give the Daily Mail..

None of you seem to mind that it was a fit up,yes they gave him the opportunity by having a row but that's no different than 99.9% of every other couple in this country occasionaly..He obviously planned this waiting for his opportunity..

None of you seem to even mention let alone condemn the left wing protesters who are camped on her front door waving banners,posting abusive posters on their windows,sending hate mail to his girlfriend which is to the level that she cant go home because she is scared too...

Is this the kind of Socialism you lot are advocating????



 

[wing commander]

The Conservative Party have announced an enquiry to find out how a left wing couple could possibly afford to live in the same building as Boris and to see if they need to ramp up Austerity.

Sydney they can afford to live there because his wife is the daughter of a self made American Millionaire who made his money in capitalism and composing who bought the house for them.So while she is a hard left socialist she's quite happy to live off the trappings of everything she supposedly hates..

[Glyn_Wigley]

    I'm no fan of Boris that's for sure but really this is quite pathetic as far as I'm concerned..This forum is supposed to be about debate but it's become more like a tory lynching.
    Here we have a bloke whose left wing remainer neighbour hates him with a passion..Who had a row with his misses (Frankly who hasn't).Now I haven't a problem that he was potentially concerned about her welfare (although in reality he couldn't give a toss probably).I also don't mind if he was concerned enough to call the Police to check (again in reality his eyes must have lit up).The Police arrived,checked the tape,spoke to the occupants and quickly found everything was fine and left..

Now here's where I do have a problem,in supposedly public interest he decided to send and give a interview to the Guardian..A left based paper that frankly I give as much consideration to as you lot give the Daily Mail..

None of you seem to mind that it was a fit up,yes they gave him the opportunity by having a row but that's no different than 99.9% of every other couple in this country occasionaly..He obviously planned this waiting for his opportunity..

None of you seem to even mention let alone condemn the left wing protesters who are camped on her front door waving banners,posting abusive posters on their windows,sending hate mail to his girlfriend which is to the level that she cant go home because she is scared too...

Is this the kind of Socialism you lot are advocating????



 

That well-known bunch of lefties The Sun has a front page claiming that these rows have been a regular event. But I'm sure they're just being party political about it and we can ignore it. Just like their neighbours are expected to!

[SydneyRover]

The Conservative Party have announced an enquiry to find out how a left wing couple could possibly afford to live in the same building as Boris and to see if they need to ramp up Austerity.

''Sydney they can afford to live there because his wife is the daughter of a self made American Millionaire who made his money in capitalism and composing who bought the house for them.So while she is a hard left socialist she's quite happy to live off the trappings of everything she supposedly hates''

WC, I used humour because I'm totally appalled at the prospect of the conservative party even thinking of raising this moron to the position of PM even without this latest incident and the British press are not helping by portraying Johnson as a harmless buffoon instead of tearing him up because of his many flaws and failings. Normally I wouldn't give a flying xxxx what happens in the privacy of someone's home provided everyone is safe and not abused in any way, but ((and it's a large butt where Boris's concerned (sorry more humour)) this extremely poor example of a politician has every chance of being the PM and therefore everything he does has done is up for scrutiny and should be examined in the most rigorous way. As far as this forum being about debate it still is and we all get a bit pissed about what people post, take a look at what's being written on the football side of it at present.

To blame those that rang the police because of their concern is on the verge of victim blaming, it's Boris that needs to account for his behaviour.

The Guardian maybe too left wing for you but for accuracy and accountability for what it prints I would back it against and of the others and especially the yellow press.

I hope you can see beyond this thread and appreciate that it's just a forum where people express their ideas and debate what they are passionate about, what is said on the forum should stay here and not affect relationships outside of it.

Hunt is t**t too.

[SydneyRover]

    I'm no fan of Boris that's for sure but really this is quite pathetic as far as I'm concerned..This forum is supposed to be about debate but it's become more like a tory lynching.
    Here we have a bloke whose left wing remainer neighbour hates him with a passion..Who had a row with his misses (Frankly who hasn't).Now I haven't a problem that he was potentially concerned about her welfare (although in reality he couldn't give a toss probably).I also don't mind if he was concerned enough to call the Police to check (again in reality his eyes must have lit up).The Police arrived,checked the tape,spoke to the occupants and quickly found everything was fine and left..

Now here's where I do have a problem,in supposedly public interest he decided to send and give a interview to the Guardian..A left based paper that frankly I give as much consideration to as you lot give the Daily Mail..

None of you seem to mind that it was a fit up,yes they gave him the opportunity by having a row but that's no different than 99.9% of every other couple in this country occasionaly..He obviously planned this waiting for his opportunity..

None of you seem to even mention let alone condemn the left wing protesters who are camped on her front door waving banners,posting abusive posters on their windows,sending hate mail to his girlfriend which is to the level that she cant go home because she is scared too...

Is this the kind of Socialism you lot are advocating????



 

That well-known bunch of lefties The Sun has a front page claiming that these rows have been a regular event. But I'm sure they're just being party political about it and we can ignore it. Just like their neighbours are expected to!

Here it is GW:
 
''TORY LOVE DRAMA Boris Johnson and Carrie Symonds had four explosive rows in six weeks — and nearly split up three weeks ago''

[wing commander]

I fully agree with you on the fact that Boris is not fit to lead this Country and I say that as a Tory..However it's the fact that he is incompetent and promises the world first and cant give give solid answers on how he is going to achieve any of it which is why I have that belief,not because he has had a row/rows with his girlfriend...

 The one point I will disagree with you is  "To blame those that rang the police because of their concern is on the verge of victim blaming, it's Boris that needs to account for his behaviour." That's not victim blaming..His wife has openly boasted on twitter of giving them the finger everytime she see's them walking down the street,they are not victims they planned everything to cause as much trouble as they could and frankly I find it hypocritical that they are now complaining about the abuse they are getting as well which is nothing compared to what their actions have caused others..

When I'm watching the Political hustings I want to hear him try and answer the questions that matter so he can dig his own hole..Not waste half of it talking about something like this,that nobody really cares about outside the socialist Left..

 Obviously none of you want either Johnson or Hunt as the next PM as passionately as I don't want Corbyn's labour but we need to start getting back to making our choices on proper political reasoning.Everytime politicians see these type of story's have a effect it just encourages them to play dirtier and dirtier and I would say that if it was a Labour leadership candidate in this situation..

 Our Politics is in a right state across all the mainstream party's,i want a strong Tory party and I want a strong Labour Party too..Right now we have neither..We all need to get back to core politics rather than chasing around on witch hunts trying to discredit people on there private lives..

  I don't care whether Boris had a row with his girlfriend or whether Abbott had a mojito on a train,i don't care whether she was in a relationship with Corbyn and I'm not bothered whether anybody had a few joints when they were in there twenty's either...I only care on what there position is on our economy,on Brexit and how it can be achieved and how our nhs can be improved given the great institution that it is....

[Glyn_Wigley]

If you had noisy rows going on next door, would you expect to just grin and bear it or would you call the police even just to get them to be quiet?

[wing commander]

If you had noisy rows going on next door, would you expect to just grin and bear it or would you call the police even just to get them to be quiet?

Oh for god sake I give up...

[scawsby steve]

Well said Wing Co. I too don't rate Johnson, or any other politician for that matter, but for people on here that claim to be intelligent, and then get taken in by a pair of champagne socialist liars, beggars belief.

[wilts rover]

I fully agree with the WC. I think it absolutely disgraceful that the newspapers have invaded the private life of Boris and his girlfriend (former press secretary to the Tory Party). Imagine they go for a nice quiet, romantic break in the country over the weekend and some disgraceful paparazzi is there to catch them holding hands.

I am sure he, and everyone else who values privacy over public interest are going to be furious that these photos showing Johnson in a sympathetic light are now appearing on the front pages of many Tory supporting newspapers.

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/1143101577701580800

[Filo]

I fully agree with the WC. I think it absolutely disgraceful that the newspapers have invaded the private life of Boris and his girlfriend (former press secretary to the Tory Party). Imagine they go for a nice quiet, romantic break in the country over the weekend and some disgraceful paparazzi is there to catch them holding hands.

I am sure he, and everyone else who values privacy over public interest are going to be furious that these photos showing Johnson in a sympathetic light are now appearing on the front pages of many Tory supporting newspapers.

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/1143101577701580800

As many have pointed out inthe replys to that tweet, his hair seems to have grown a few inches from Saturday to Sunday 😂😂😂

[Glyn_Wigley]

Well said Wing Co. I too don't rate Johnson, or any other politician for that matter, but for people on here that claim to be intelligent, and then get taken in by a pair of champagne socialist liars, beggars belief.

What have they lied about?

[Glyn_Wigley]

    I'm no fan of Boris that's for sure but really this is quite pathetic as far as I'm concerned..This forum is supposed to be about debate but it's become more like a tory lynching.
    Here we have a bloke whose left wing remainer neighbour hates him with a passion..Who had a row with his misses (Frankly who hasn't).Now I haven't a problem that he was potentially concerned about her welfare (although in reality he couldn't give a toss probably).I also don't mind if he was concerned enough to call the Police to check (again in reality his eyes must have lit up).The Police arrived,checked the tape,spoke to the occupants and quickly found everything was fine and left..

Now here's where I do have a problem,in supposedly public interest he decided to send and give a interview to the Guardian..A left based paper that frankly I give as much consideration to as you lot give the Daily Mail..

None of you seem to mind that it was a fit up,yes they gave him the opportunity by having a row but that's no different than 99.9% of every other couple in this country occasionaly..He obviously planned this waiting for his opportunity..

None of you seem to even mention let alone condemn the left wing protesters who are camped on her front door waving banners,posting abusive posters on their windows,sending hate mail to his girlfriend which is to the level that she cant go home because she is scared too...

Is this the kind of Socialism you lot are advocating????



 

That well-known bunch of lefties The Sun has a front page claiming that these rows have been a regular event. But I'm sure they're just being party political about it and we can ignore it. Just like their neighbours are expected to!

Here it is GW:
 
''TORY LOVE DRAMA Boris Johnson and Carrie Symonds had four explosive rows in six weeks — and nearly split up three weeks ago''

The point that people seem to be missing is - this is something that Boris can squash quite easily by acting Prime Ministerially using some well-chosen words and then everyone can move on. And he might even come out of it looking more statesmanlike.

Instead he's running away from the issue at every turn.

How quickly and how far will he run away when negotiations with the EU don't go his way? Or any of the other difficulties that a PM faces as part of their job?

[BillyStubbsTears]

WC.

Don't you think that the fact that the person who shares her life with the next PM screams "You don't care about anything because you are spoilt" at him in the middle of the night, so loud that the neighbours can clearly hear it, is a window into his personality that the electorate should know about?

[Bentley Bullet]

"Woman scorned shouts nothing but the truth abuse at partner shock"

[BillyStubbsTears]

Scorned?

I take it you missed the bit about her screaming "get off me" then?

[Bentley Bullet]

Yes, a pity really! I'd have made a small fortune running to the press!

[BillyStubbsTears]

I guess you would if you were the sort of person who wanted paying for that...

[Bentley Bullet]

Yep, especially if I didn't like him anyway and opposed his politics.

You're not suggesting I'd be morally lacking in doing so are you?

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'm suggesting you'd be morally lacking in wanting payment. Not in freely giving us an insight into the character of the PM.

Are you saying the fact that his partner screams at him that he's spoilt has doesn't care for anything is something the electorate shouldn't know about?

[Bentley Bullet]

What about if there was no financial gain from it (ha), but I did it because I didn't like him or his politics? Would I then be morally lacking?

Yes, I'm suggesting his private life regarding rows with his wife is f**k all to do with the electorate.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well what the f**k did you bring the issue of being paid to pass on the recordings for then?

Just after a row again? Help yourself. I'm on with work tonight.

[Bentley Bullet]

If you don't want a row, stop being wrong.

[scawsby steve]

Well said Wing Co. I too don't rate Johnson, or any other politician for that matter, but for people on here that claim to be intelligent, and then get taken in by a pair of champagne socialist liars, beggars belief.

What have they lied about?

Loud bangs, screaming, and a woman in distress that they allegedly were concerned about; so the Police investigate and find - nothing, absolutely nothing; everyone safe and everything normal.

All this from a left wing couple who apparently detest Johnson and his partner. You believe what you want; I know what I believe.