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Who would you prefer?

Boris Johnson
10 (23.3%)
Rory Stewart
17 (39.5%)
Esther McVey
4 (9.3%)
Jeremy Hunt
1 (2.3%)
Dominic Raab
1 (2.3%)
Sajid Javid
1 (2.3%)
Andrea Leadsom
1 (2.3%)
Michael Gove
4 (9.3%)
Matt Hancock
2 (4.7%)
Mark Harper
0 (0%)
Sam Gyimah
2 (4.7%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Voting closed: June 23, 2019, 08:05:05 am

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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #300 on June 26, 2019, 10:38:12 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
NNK

Yes. But the point is that NOW, when you Google Boris Johnson Bus, you get link after link of him being his usual buffoonish self talking about painting crates. What you DON'T get is the links of him peddling the £350m lie.

That's how Lynton Crosby operates.



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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #301 on June 26, 2019, 10:59:25 pm by Filo »
NNK

Yes. But the point is that NOW, when you Google Boris Johnson Bus, you get link after link of him being his usual buffoonish self talking about painting crates. What you DON'T get is the links of him peddling the £350m lie.

That's how Lynton Crosby operates.

Throwing a dead cat on the table

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #302 on June 26, 2019, 11:14:36 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I heard Curiosity killed it, but the Guardian tried to blame Boris.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #303 on June 26, 2019, 11:15:25 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
No. Far more sophisticated than that. Manipulating the message.

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #304 on June 26, 2019, 11:40:40 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Do you mean like manipulating the message to every household in the country?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #305 on June 27, 2019, 12:05:34 am by BillyStubbsTears »
No BB. I don't.

Stick to the 40 year past their sell-by date jokes. You're much more entertaining then.

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #306 on June 27, 2019, 12:08:24 am by Bentley Bullet »
Better being a has been than a never has been owd lad.

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #307 on June 28, 2019, 09:17:03 am by SydneyRover »
Wouldn't think that Boris the tories would sue Verhofstadt for using all these terms that portray him as fraudulent and liar about their man in government?

''Brussels has sounded a warning that Boris Johnson’s familiar use of “false promises, pseudo-patriotism and foreigner-bashing” to win the keys to Downing Street is locking Britain into a no-deal Brexit.

In a withering attack on the Conservative leadership frontrunner, Guy Verhofstadt dismissed the idea that he could dump Theresa May’s withdrawal agreement, withhold payment of the UK’s £39bn divorce bill and still negotiate a free-trade deal in Brussels as a “myth”. And he said that, years after the referendum, Johnson was “a man who continues to dissemble, exaggerate and disinform”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/27/boris-johnson-brexit-deal-claims-rubbished-guy-verhofstadt

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #308 on June 28, 2019, 09:20:55 am by swifty50 »
Caroline Flint

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #309 on June 28, 2019, 08:32:35 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Sweet f**king Jesus.
THIS. From Michael Gove's wife.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WestminsterWAG/status/1143978097924018176

They haven't got a f**king clue, have they?

"Oh! Oh! I never realised my husband's Government were actually f**king over the lives of REAL vulnerable people! Why isn't someone stopping it?"

And she then f**king TWEETS about it. Instead of asking her husband where his f**king soul is.

SydneyRover

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #310 on June 29, 2019, 04:00:37 am by SydneyRover »
Sweet f**king Jesus.
THIS. From Michael Gove's wife.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WestminsterWAG/status/1143978097924018176

They haven't got a f**king clue, have they?

"Oh! Oh! I never realised my husband's Government were actually f**king over the lives of REAL vulnerable people! Why isn't someone stopping it?"

And she then f**king TWEETS about it. Instead of asking her husband where his f**king soul is.
Just as well we are going to get the caring and sharing Boris then BST?

SydneyRover

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #311 on June 29, 2019, 09:09:55 am by SydneyRover »
Boris has an inverse square relationship with common sense and his age, the bbc have not covered themselves in glory either.

Of course we've all seen him before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULFMp4jKBo

BBC censored Boris's insult to the French: Would-be PM called nation 'turds' over Brexit in documentary when he was Foreign Secretary - but producers axed jibe amid diplomatic pressure

EXCLUSIVE : Crude remark supposed to feature in fly-on-wall TV documentary
But the Foreign Office successfully begged for it to be cut, according to insiders
The claim is corroborated by a leaked Whitehall memo seen by the Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7190081/BBC-censored-Boriss-insult-French.html

Calling the French ‘turds’ shows Boris Johnson is the eternal spoilt 15-year-old

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/28/calling-french-turds-boris-johnson-prime-minister-empire

« Last Edit: June 29, 2019, 09:40:25 am by SydneyRover »

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #312 on June 29, 2019, 12:41:57 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Boris has an inverse square relationship with common sense and his age, the bbc have not covered themselves in glory either.

Of course we've all seen him before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULFMp4jKBo

BBC censored Boris's insult to the French: Would-be PM called nation 'turds' over Brexit in documentary when he was Foreign Secretary - but producers axed jibe amid diplomatic pressure

EXCLUSIVE : Crude remark supposed to feature in fly-on-wall TV documentary
But the Foreign Office successfully begged for it to be cut, according to insiders
The claim is corroborated by a leaked Whitehall memo seen by the Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7190081/BBC-censored-Boriss-insult-French.html

Calling the French ‘turds’ shows Boris Johnson is the eternal spoilt 15-year-old

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/28/calling-french-turds-boris-johnson-prime-minister-empire



But have you heard his latest piece of nonsense about it?

When challenged about having said this, he replied "I have no recollection of this comment but I noticed that it...it's not very well sourced, this story."

Not well sourced? What does that tell you what he thinks about the veracity of a Goverment Department of State...that he was head of at the time! :silly:

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #313 on June 29, 2019, 01:28:32 pm by SydneyRover »
Boris has an inverse square relationship with common sense and his age, the bbc have not covered themselves in glory either.

Of course we've all seen him before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULFMp4jKBo

BBC censored Boris's insult to the French: Would-be PM called nation 'turds' over Brexit in documentary when he was Foreign Secretary - but producers axed jibe amid diplomatic pressure

EXCLUSIVE : Crude remark supposed to feature in fly-on-wall TV documentary
But the Foreign Office successfully begged for it to be cut, according to insiders
The claim is corroborated by a leaked Whitehall memo seen by the Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7190081/BBC-censored-Boriss-insult-French.html

Calling the French ‘turds’ shows Boris Johnson is the eternal spoilt 15-year-old

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/28/calling-french-turds-boris-johnson-prime-minister-empire



But have you heard his latest piece of nonsense about it?

When challenged about having said this, he replied "I have no recollection of this comment but I noticed that it...it's not very well sourced, this story."

Not well sourced? What does that tell you what he thinks about the veracity of a Goverment Department of State...that he was head of at the time! :silly:

Fake news apparently, typing a Boris, Turd, France gets zero from the BBC news search box.

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #314 on June 29, 2019, 04:20:27 pm by selby »
  I would say that calling Macron and Barnier turds is the truest statement to come out of any Brexit statement, the one nearest to the truth yet at least.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #315 on June 29, 2019, 05:18:29 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Go on then Selby. What has Barnier done wrong to warrant that assessment?

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #316 on June 29, 2019, 06:04:29 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
He's not caved in to every ridiculous Brexiteer's wet dream fantasy demands of course.

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #317 on June 29, 2019, 08:43:29 pm by wilts rover »
You have to love this. According to Tory Party members the worst candidate for PM is the one they would prefer!

https://twitter.com/theobertram/status/1144863429183905792

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #318 on June 29, 2019, 08:48:31 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
That's actually not what that poll says.

The first question is asking which would make a good PM. It clearly has the option of respondents saying "both" because the figures add up to 116%.

So it's perfectly logical in terms of the poll for 55% to say Johnson would make a good PM and for 48% to say they prefer him as PM. That means most who think he is "good" would also prefer him.

Conversely, it's perfectly logical for 61% to say Hunt would be good but only 39% say they prefer him.

So there's nothing fundamentally wrong with those figures.

Of course, the fact that anyone in the Tory party things either of them would be a good PM shows how f**king batshit they are...
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BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #319 on June 29, 2019, 09:09:52 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Ridiculous article in The Times today about senior civil servants apparently being concerned about Corbyn becoming PM because he's physically frail.

Lord knows there is plenty of criticise Corbyn for, but considering our next PM is grossly overweight and can't keep his cock in his pants, I think criticising Corbyn on physical grounds is a bit odd. I know who is put my money on out if Corbyn and Johnson to win a 5k race.

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« Reply #320 on June 30, 2019, 10:18:43 am by SydneyRover »
Ridiculous article in The Times today about senior civil servants apparently being concerned about Corbyn becoming PM because he's physically frail.

Lord knows there is plenty of criticise Corbyn for, but considering our next PM is grossly overweight and can't keep his cock in his pants, I think criticising Corbyn on physical grounds is a bit odd. I know who is put my money on out if Corbyn and Johnson to win a 5k race.
A desperate look over there!

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« Reply #321 on July 01, 2019, 11:39:08 am by SydneyRover »
Deal or No-Deal, depends on who's asking, to bexiters No-Deal, to Business yes a Deal. Fake or Fortune as these two play a game of Pea and thimble with the truth. Would I Lie to You? you already are.

''Brexit: both Tory sides play down risk of no-deal after business alarm''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/01/brexit-tory-leadership-no-deal-risk-business-alarm-jeremy-hunt-boris-johnson
« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 11:48:29 am by SydneyRover »

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« Reply #322 on July 02, 2019, 10:03:09 am by Not Now Kato »
Stupid is as stupid does
 

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« Reply #323 on July 02, 2019, 06:45:33 pm by albie »
There has not been too much shouty shouty about campaign funds for the Tory wannabees, but there should be:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-climate-change-denier-makes-big-donation-boris-johnson-and-jeremy-hunt/

That old dark money tango eh!
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« Reply #324 on July 03, 2019, 12:36:03 am by SydneyRover »
There has not been too much shouty shouty about campaign funds for the Tory wannabees, but there should be:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-climate-change-denier-makes-big-donation-boris-johnson-and-jeremy-hunt/

That old dark money tango eh!
The process of owning democracy in a covert bidding war is as brazen as ever, but it is becoming the new normal of the democratic process.

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« Reply #325 on July 03, 2019, 10:44:00 pm by SydneyRover »

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« Reply #326 on July 03, 2019, 11:25:54 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Got me thinking. If Boris Johnson's private life was subject to a Sin Tax...

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Re: Tory Leader - Who's your preference?
« Reply #327 on July 04, 2019, 12:15:37 am by Bentley Bullet »
Grown-up politics at its best.

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« Reply #328 on July 04, 2019, 12:40:55 am by SydneyRover »
My friend Johnson, everybody's friend just please give me a go, I know I can do aw please, don't make fun of me this is serious.

''My friend Boris Johnson has his faults, but he is the most talented person of his generation''

''I met Boris Johnson early in my first term at Oxford and we went on to share a house together. It was obvious even before he became President of the Union that he was the most talented person of my generation.

He was a scholar at Balliol, a college famous for what H H Asquith – one of several old boys who became prime minister – called “effortless superiority”, that annoying British ability to excel without apparently having put any work into it.

Boris embodies this to an extent he might call preternatural. I have always been proud to call this extravagantly gifted man my friend, so now I am going to defend him in public''

Maybe don't speak with your mouth full.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/07/01/friend-boris-johnson-has-faults-talented-person-generation/


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« Reply #329 on July 04, 2019, 12:12:56 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Grown-up politics at its best.

Irony overload!

 

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