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ravenrover

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1800 on July 06, 2022, 05:23:52 pm by ravenrover »
I just can't believe, as much as I want and it should happen, that he will resign. What other options are there to get rid of him?



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roversdude

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1801 on July 06, 2022, 05:41:46 pm by roversdude »
Surely he’s packing his stuff away now

BigH

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1802 on July 06, 2022, 05:53:19 pm by BigH »
I just can't believe, as much as I want and it should happen, that he will resign. What other options are there to get rid of him?
A big fat cheque from a Tory donor should do the trick!

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1803 on July 06, 2022, 06:12:14 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
If he still won't go, I wonder if Tory MPs will start crossing the floor to become Independents?

Filo

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1804 on July 06, 2022, 06:21:36 pm by Filo »
Tory snakes everywhere, they have all backed him in every scandal until now, and now when they realise they might lose their jobs they are sticking the knife in, they are tainted already!

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1805 on July 06, 2022, 06:33:37 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
If Zahawi has told Johnson he had to go, and Johnson refuses, surely Zahawi has to resign?

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1806 on July 06, 2022, 06:43:36 pm by drfchound »
Tory snakes everywhere, they have all backed him in every scandal until now, and now when they realise they might lose their jobs they are sticking the knife in, they are tainted already!

Are you saying they are all the same Filo?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1807 on July 06, 2022, 07:06:31 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Whoa.

They've finally nailed him on this one. You can see the energy it takes to keep lying finally drain out of him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1544716533842206720

For those who don't know this story, Johnson went straight from a high level NATO foreign ministers meeting about the Salisbury attack, to a Bunga Bunga party in an Italian palace owned by an ex-KGB colonel. He was seen at the airport on his way home looking like he'd been dragged through a hedge backwards and apparently unable to walk in a straight line. He went without officials and he "thinks he did mention it" to his officials at some point.

This on its own should have meant that he never got close to No10.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1808 on July 06, 2022, 07:10:42 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
And anyone prepared to listen knew about this security risk 3 years ago.

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1544709167046434818

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1809 on July 06, 2022, 07:15:22 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
And of course, this same Boris Johnson ennobled the ex-KGB's son to the House of Lords as Baron Lebedev of Siberia. Against security service's recommendations.

It truly is too far fetched for a three bob drama.

wilts rover

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1810 on July 06, 2022, 07:56:15 pm by wilts rover »
I just can't believe, as much as I want and it should happen, that he will resign. What other options are there to get rid of him?

None. Only the Tory Party can kick him out - either by a 1922 vote of confidence or joining with Labour/other parties in a HoC vote of confidence (and no way will that happen).

Its going to be one of: Resigns/General Election/1922 Vote of Confidence

get your bets in now!

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1811 on July 06, 2022, 08:00:41 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Even Patel is telling him to go.

MachoMadness

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1812 on July 06, 2022, 08:13:21 pm by MachoMadness »
He's told cabinet he's not quitting. Genuine question what happens if he can't fill a cabinet and still doesn't resign?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1813 on July 06, 2022, 08:17:15 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
He's told cabinet he's not quitting. Genuine question what happens if he can't fill a cabinet and still doesn't resign?

Government stops functioning. Or we end up with one person being Chancellor and Secretary of State for half a dozen other things. Which effectively means Govt stops functioning.

Apparently there are already committee meetings in the House being cancelled because there are no junior ministers to attend.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1814 on July 06, 2022, 08:20:10 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
It's truly impossible to imagine the man-child's state of mind now.

He's gone by mid next week because the new 1922 Committee executive will 100% change the rules to allow a VONC. And he'll lose that at least 60-40. So what on earth does he gain by staying put now? Is his personality really that f**ked up that he can't face taking the responsibility himself for the decision?

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1815 on July 06, 2022, 08:33:42 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
He's told cabinet he's not quitting. Genuine question what happens if he can't fill a cabinet and still doesn't resign?

The first time such a 'government' tries to put anything before the Commons, all the disaffected Tories abstain and the Opposition crush any hopes of said 'government' getting anything done. Surely not even Boris can try and brassneck that and carry on?

While writing this another Cabinet member Brandon Lewis has gone.

MachoMadness

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1816 on July 06, 2022, 08:35:45 pm by MachoMadness »
Is there a scenario where he just refuses to leave if the 1922 committee votes no confidence? I mean, that's just Tory party convention isn't it, not a legally binding thing. Then the cabinet would be in the position of choosing between supporting him or completely paralysing the government.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1817 on July 06, 2022, 08:42:11 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Is there a scenario where he just refuses to leave if the 1922 committee votes no confidence? I mean, that's just Tory party convention isn't it, not a legally binding thing. Then the cabinet would be in the position of choosing between supporting him or completely paralysing the government.

He would immediately stop being the leader of the Conservative Party and therefore not be in a position to form a government. The Queen would eventually invite someone else to form a government, whether that's new Tory leader or after a General Election.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1818 on July 06, 2022, 08:46:46 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Latest news is that Brandon Lewis hasn't resigned!

albie

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1819 on July 06, 2022, 08:50:38 pm by albie »
The man suffers from a narcissistic personality disorder, and is clearly deranged.

No point in looking for rational decision making on the basis of evidence, he doesn't do that, and has not been doing it during his time as PM.

What provision exists for removal from office due to mental instability?
The 1922 will cull him next week, if he cannot be moved before then.

Branton Red

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1820 on July 06, 2022, 09:17:11 pm by Branton Red »
What is the PM looking to achieve by hanging on?

It's clear and obvious his time is up.

Delusional and shameless.

wilts rover

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1821 on July 06, 2022, 09:22:24 pm by wilts rover »
Gove gone - sacked

drfcdrfc

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1822 on July 06, 2022, 09:22:54 pm by drfcdrfc »
Now hes sacked Gove

belton rover

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1823 on July 06, 2022, 09:26:33 pm by belton rover »
I really hope this is the start of a massive shift in politics and the way ‘we’ are served.

I’m not holding my breath though.

rich1471

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1824 on July 06, 2022, 09:36:21 pm by rich1471 »
That's what you call leveling up,can he really not see that he is single Handley  destroying the conservative party and giving them zero chance of winning the next election.

Filo

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1825 on July 06, 2022, 09:39:22 pm by Filo »
If there was ever a right time to for the opposition to table a motion of no confidence it is right now

IDM

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1826 on July 06, 2022, 09:40:50 pm by IDM »
That's what you call leveling up,can he really not see that he is single Handley  destroying the conservative party and giving them zero chance of winning the next election.

No he can’t see that.

He’s just a f**king Kitson.

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1828 on July 06, 2022, 09:54:58 pm by SydneyRover »
the tories are well into Reservoir Dogs territory ...................

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Re: Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson
« Reply #1829 on July 06, 2022, 10:01:35 pm by SydneyRover »
''Meanwhile, there have been three more resignations from Johnson's government. Taking the number of ministers and aides that have resigned - or been sacked - up to at least 41''

 

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