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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: MrFrost on May 06, 2017, 10:38:36 pm
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I'd take mid table.
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It depends who we bring in Mike doesn't it?
The board/owners have let Ferguson bring in whoever he has wanted this season, so may do again next season. Consolidation wouldn't be so bad if we can see the way forward. We need to get rid of some dead wood (we all know who they are) and you just never know
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5th bottom for me, anything better would be a bonus
COYR
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Just remember those expectations though when we are mid table next year and everyone is losing their shit
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17th
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Our position will depend on what players we can bring in and what players leave. We can't standstill we need to improve the squad if we want a good top half finish in league one.
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Just remember those expectations though when we are mid table next year and everyone is losing their shit
I hope we are mid table with only 1 game & not 10 games to go so the now customery slump cant affect us!!
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Play-offs
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Depends on what signings are made.
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We need a minimum of six quality additional in my opinion of we want a respectable season.
Centre back
Two full backs
Two midfielders
Striker
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I'm sure the groundwork for signings has been done. If anything we've got more savvy in that department in the last year. Assuming the quality is there... play offs is a decent shout.
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Midtable.
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I'll settle for not coming straight back down
:sick:
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Don't forget DF has already said that we are going to give it real go next season.
So going on that we've just lost to a team heading in to non league football , i'd say we'll be relegated by Xmas. :whistle:
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Top half minimum.
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Mid table consolidation and maybe a late season push for play offs. End of the day we ARE a decent side - not withstanding the last 5 game collapse- with the required squad strengthening I honestly believe we could give it a right go next season. When we play our passing game and JM and AW hit form there are not many sides that can match us. Glass half full come on you reds put the last 5 games and obvious dissappointment behind us and bring on the new season.
:clapping: :rtid:
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Depends on the signings. Suspect Ferguson will learn from the last few games and make changes.
Realistically we've known of some weaknesses all year. Defence without baudry, left side and midfield need improvement.
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Some pace wouldn't go amiss it's got to be the slowest rovers side in years. Apart from May and Blair it's non existent, butler was badly exposed in l1 and the likes of McCullough and grant will be really exposed if the midfield isn't sorted out.
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Mid table would do and agree above about pace needed.
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Suspect Ferguson will learn from the last few games
Hahahahaha don't be daft.
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Calls for yet another election surely - but like the EU Referendum without facts everyone is just guessing
Sign Joe Hart and Lionel Messi and Segio Ramos and I would say we would be maybe Mid Table IF just those 3 played
However stick with what we have and play 11 we again could finish Mid Table by virtue of (as Klopp says who knows) the younger Players improving.
So till we get to and through the pre Season I for one wont be expecting anything - and not predicting anything
If you want proof just look back to last July and see where we thought as a Forum we would finish. Its a laugh
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I also ran a Comp to predict Rovers and other Teams positions pre Season last Agust and here is what we thought then
Champions 33%
Runners Up 22%
Third 5%
Play off spot 28%
No Play offs 11%
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And it will be the people moaning now that predicted lower than 3rd
Can you put a link to the thread would be interesting to read
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There's someone who thought we'd struggle and finish mid-table.
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And it will be the people moaning now that predicted lower than 3rd
Can you put a link to the thread would be interesting to read
Come on, use your head.
It isn't the fact that we've finished third, it's the way we've done it.
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Relegation battle
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Top 3
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And it will be the people moaning now that predicted lower than 3rd
Can you put a link to the thread would be interesting to read
Come on, use your head.
It isn't the fact that we've finished third, it's the way we've done it.
Irrelevant.
We've exceeded your expectations dramatically this season
Yet you are still complaining
That should tell you something
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Happy with mid-table and chuffed to bits if we are in play off positions.
Mind you, whatever we do there'll be folk moaning that we're not playing on par with Brazil in the '70 World Cup, to full houses making a cacophony of noise, with a board releasing statements every day, in a stadium that sells fantastic ale at a pound a pint.
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Top 3
You realise only the top two go up don't you?
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And it will be the people moaning now that predicted lower than 3rd
Can you put a link to the thread would be interesting to read
Come on, use your head.
It isn't the fact that we've finished third, it's the way we've done it.
Irrelevant.
We've exceeded your expectations dramatically this season
Yet you are still complaining
That should tell you something
No it doesn't.
Expectations can change depending on certain situations. I've said I'll be happy with mid table next season, however if we are in promotions places until the last few games and throw it away in the same manner, then I would be saying the same.
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I've not once seen a post from you, saying overall this season we have done a lot better than I thought.
Well done everybody
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2nd to 5th.
Not in the top ten would be a failure!
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I've not once seen a post from you, saying overall this season we have done a lot better than I thought.
Well done everybody
I dont generally have much time for Mr Frosts comments & tend to agree with alot of what you say Dickos, however I think you are being a bit harsh on him today. I believe that he is pleased we have got promoted as am I however he does have a valid point that from where we were 5 games ago we have royally f@cked up & serious questions need ti be asked with regards to 2 devastating slumps last season & this!!
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Calls for yet another election surely - but like the EU Referendum without facts everyone is just guessing
Sign Joe Hart and Lionel Messi and Segio Ramos and I would say we would be maybe Mid Table IF just those 3 played
However stick with what we have and play 11 we again could finish Mid Table by virtue of (as Klopp says who knows) the younger Players improving.
So till we get to and through the pre Season I for one wont be expecting anything - and not predicting anything
If you want proof just look back to last July and see where we thought as a Forum we would finish. Its a laugh
Don't rate Ramos. He'd have to go out in loan.
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He may as well go out on Loan as he would be suspended for 90% of the games anyway lol
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Our position will depend on what players we can bring in and what players leave. We can't standstill we need to improve the squad if we want a good top half finish in league one.
DF said after the last 5 games he needs to have a look at the whole squad and would need up to 6 new players
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I've not once seen a post from you, saying overall this season we have done a lot better than I thought.
Well done everybody
I dont generally have much time for Mr Frosts comments & tend to agree with alot of what you say Dickos, however I think you are being a bit harsh on him today. I believe that he is pleased we have got promoted as am I however he does have a valid point that from where we were 5 games ago we have royally f@cked up & serious questions need ti be asked with regards to 2 devastating slumps last season & this!!
At last, the voice of reason.
The points you make Bessie Red are my views entirely and is a reasonable outlook.
No question about being happy with promotion but what a mess since.
It must be a very good post because for once Dickos has no response.
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Sign Joe Hart and Lionel Messi and Segio Ramos and I would say we would be maybe Mid Table IF just those 3 played
absolutely ridiculous response !
you want a squad full of old has-beens do you ?
donnarumma - dyballa - m'bappe - get some young guns signed up, secure the future for a decade
duh !
:P
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I've not once seen a post from you, saying overall this season we have done a lot better than I thought.
Well done everybody
I dont generally have much time for Mr Frosts comments & tend to agree with alot of what you say Dickos, however I think you are being a bit harsh on him today. I believe that he is pleased we have got promoted as am I however he does have a valid point that from where we were 5 games ago we have royally f@cked up & serious questions need ti be asked with regards to 2 devastating slumps last season & this!!
At last, the voice of reason.
The points you make Bessie Red are my views entirely and is a reasonable outlook.
No question about being happy with promotion but what a mess since.
It must be a very good post because for once Dickos has no response.
If you would take some notice you would realise I liked the post. Cause I agree with it
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surely we will start the season optimistic of doing well , thats what i do every season anyway.
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If someone offered me top of the league all season only to f**k it up at the end and finish second I'd take it in a heartbeat!
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You strike me as the type of bloke to be offered pizza for tea and then still be chuffed to bits with one of them shite home brand oven pizzas supermarkets do.
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This question should be asked in august.
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Without seeing who we've brought in, I will be happy to finish mid-table so long as we are always looking up the league rather than down. We shouldn't be in a relegation battle again, the horrors of 2015/16 should be a total one-off. With the right recruitment though I think a push for the top 6 is more than feasible.
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Our position will depend on what players we can bring in and what players leave. We can't standstill we need to improve the squad if we want a good top half finish in league one.
DF said after the last 5 games he needs to have a look at the whole squad and would need up to 6 new players
For me LB, CH, RM, LM, Striker as well signing Houghton on loan and maybe Grant.
We have also got to look who we retain or get rid of
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Based on the last two season's run-in, I certainly do no want to be mid table with 8 games to go.
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people keep saying this but last years run in was actually very good
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Off the back of was it 17 straight defeats...
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That wasn't the run in then was it
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You have to be a WUM.
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Last season we were shite apart from the last 5 games this year we were brilliant apart from the last 5 games. Yet just to be negative for the sake of it people are saying both seasons were the same.
Anyway can't be bothered anymore, enjoy being distraught at finishing 3rd and getting promotion, predicting we will struggle next season and then moaning when we're successful.
As someone else stated earlier I'd have snapped your hand off at the beginning of the season at being top most of the season and finishing 3rd.
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For what it is worth, yes I am distraught at finishing third but only because of the position we were in before the collapse.
So are the players and the manager, listen to the interviews.
As for next season, where have I said we will struggle?
I actually have a back to back promotion bet which I got on late last year so I am not going to post anything to contradict that am I?
As a true Yorkshire man I am also disappointed to have not collected on my Rovers to win the title bet that was worth a few quid to me too.
Anyway, I too am bored with you but will watch out for you contradicting people to draw a response.
I really should have known better but credit where it is due, you drew me in.
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I'd have snapped your hand off at the beginning of the season at being top most of the season and finishing 3rd.
Don't talk b*llocks.
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Off the back of was it 17 straight defeats...
Got to be on the wind-up. 17 straight defeats? We didn't lose every bloody game.
We hit form after Rowe and McSheffrey came in, we even despatched the eventual champions Wigan 3-1 at home.
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We went through that trap door like a sack of shit. He picked the bag up in January and slowly but surely he filled it with the shit. And towards the end it was real stinking shit (Colchester away anyone?).
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we'll finish 6th. you heard it here first!
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Off the back of was it 17 straight defeats...
And you say I'm talking b*llocks!
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Sorry, thought I'd read somewhere that's what it was.
But for the record, yes you are talking b*llocks.
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If you had to read it somewhere, and don't remember something that happened to do with our team only a year ago then I'm not sure what to say.
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To be honest I've tried to block out most of last season.
After beating Crewe in stoppage time in mid December we won two more games, not exactly a great deal better is it?
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That's a fair point actually :lol:
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To be honest I've tried to block out most of last season.
After beating Crewe in stoppage time in mid December we won two more games, not exactly a great deal better is it?
We won 4 actually, but don't let the facts spoil a good old moan
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Can't make any realistic expectations until we see who the new signings are and the strength of the squad.
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Anything above the bottom 4
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I expect us to be competitive on the field, in as many games as possible..
Of course, so will the opposition so we may not get the results every time, but if we are confident and compete, then results will eventually follow.
Notwithstanding the last 5 games, we enter league 1 going up, not coming down. Fergie is being ruthless with the release list, so he must have a good set of transfer targets lined up.
I want to see us entertain and score, win more than we lose. I don't expect promotion/play offs but will be happy if we give it a good go.
To be honest, that's my expectation every season.
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To be honest I've tried to block out most of last season.
After beating Crewe in stoppage time in mid December we won two more games, not exactly a great deal better is it?
We won 4 actually, but don't let the facts spoil a good old moan
Excuse me for miscounting something at near midnight.
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To be honest I've tried to block out most of last season.
After beating Crewe in stoppage time in mid December we won two more games, not exactly a great deal better is it?
We won 4 actually, but don't let the facts spoil a good old moan
Excuse me for miscounting something at near midnight.
Wow, we won 4 games between December and the end of the season and that isn't considered to be a collapse.
The difference RedJ between the likes of you and me (people who don't take losing lightly) and the happy clappers(the likes of dickos) is that the clappers are happy to accept poor performances and try to find reasons why it is ok to let good opportunities pass by.
A bit like a politician trying to put a positive spin on an overwhelming defeat in an election.
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Second half of last season was total dogshit. We didn't win for 17 games and lost 13 of them with at one point I think 7 straight defeats.
Whether he and they pulled their fingers out their arses long enough to turn up at the end of the season and dribble a few points once we were already down then ok, let's break out the Krug lads. It was cack last season and nobody who witnessed that sack of shit opened up on supporters away at Colchester last season cannot sway me from believing that run and the abject performances during the run mean that Ferguson is an extremely lucky man to have as generous a board as we have.
They might have expected a little more this season.
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To be honest I've tried to block out most of last season.
After beating Crewe in stoppage time in mid December we won two more games, not exactly a great deal better is it?
We won 4 actually, but don't let the facts spoil a good old moan
Excuse me for miscounting something at near midnight.
Wow, we won 4 games between December and the end of the season and that isn't considered to be a collapse.
The difference RedJ between the likes of you and me (people who don't take losing lightly) and the happy clappers(the likes of dickos) is that the clappers are happy to accept poor performances and try to find reasons why it is ok to let good opportunities pass by.
A bit like a politician trying to put a positive spin on an overwhelming defeat in an election.
Get a grip, you're jumping on everything I post.
Never did I suggest 4 games wasn't a collapse,
I think the difference between me and you is you will always be unhappy unless you find something to complain about. Always looking for the negative in everything.
I'm delighted we finished 3rd, if that makes me a happy clapper, so be it.
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I want boom or bust none of that mid-table boring season lark either we go up or are in with a shout or we battle against relegation. I don't expect anything i hope we can get to the play-offs but it depends if we get the right ones in.
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I want boom or bust none of that mid-table boring season lark either we go up or are in with a shout or we battle against relegation. I don't expect anything i hope we can get to the play-offs but it depends if we get the right ones in.
I'm not quite sure how one would go about sacrificing the aim of consolidation by going all out for promotion and thus increasing the likelihood of getting relegated if we miss out?
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To be honest I've tried to block out most of last season.
After beating Crewe in stoppage time in mid December we won two more games, not exactly a great deal better is it?
We won 4 actually, but don't let the facts spoil a good old moan
Excuse me for miscounting something at near midnight.
Wow, we won 4 games between December and the end of the season and that isn't considered to be a collapse.
The difference RedJ between the likes of you and me (people who don't take losing lightly) and the happy clappers(the likes of dickos) is that the clappers are happy to accept poor performances and try to find reasons why it is ok to let good opportunities pass by.
A bit like a politician trying to put a positive spin on an overwhelming defeat in an election.
Get a grip, you're jumping on everything I post.
Never did I suggest 4 games wasn't a collapse,
I think the difference between me and you is you will always be unhappy unless you find something to complain about. Always looking for the negative in everything.
I'm delighted we finished 3rd, if that makes me a happy clapper, so be it.
I make lots of positive posts dickos.
What i cant abide though is accepting poor outcomes from very good situations, unlike you apparently.
How you can be happy at finishing third after those last five games is beyond belief really.
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Im happy we're promoted, and I would have taken it however it came, playoffs, winning the title. I'm not that bothered to be honest.
We just needed to be promoted, Portsmouth have been stuck here for 3-4 years and we've gone straight back up.
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At the moment not getting relegated however a more realistic opinion can be given once we know the squad we have got.