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Quote from: drfchound on April 08, 2021, 07:46:44 pmQuote from: drfchound on April 08, 2021, 07:34:51 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight.Some of those stats are variable by age though.As for being killed on a 250 mile car journey, it equates to one person in a million which is the same odds a someone being struck by lightning.Compare that risk against say people aged 55 dying from Coronavirus which is 800 in a million.For someone aged 25 the potential is for 23 people in a million to die.Clearly the odds of dying from a blood clot after having the AZ vaccine are much less.Quote from: scawsby steve on April 08, 2021, 07:42:15 pmI don't think the reference to the 250 mile car trip is anything to do with being killed in an accident, it's to do with developing deep vein thrombosis blood clots, as with a long haul flight.Having said that SS, the point still stands about having the jab being safer than not doing so.
Quote from: drfchound on April 08, 2021, 07:34:51 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight.Some of those stats are variable by age though.As for being killed on a 250 mile car journey, it equates to one person in a million which is the same odds a someone being struck by lightning.Compare that risk against say people aged 55 dying from Coronavirus which is 800 in a million.For someone aged 25 the potential is for 23 people in a million to die.Clearly the odds of dying from a blood clot after having the AZ vaccine are much less.
Quote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight.Some of those stats are variable by age though.As for being killed on a 250 mile car journey, it equates to one person in a million which is the same odds a someone being struck by lightning.Compare that risk against say people aged 55 dying from Coronavirus which is 800 in a million.For someone aged 25 the potential is for 23 people in a million to die.Clearly the odds of dying from a blood clot after having the AZ vaccine are much less.
Interesting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight.
I don't think the reference to the 250 mile car trip is anything to do with being killed in an accident, it's to do with developing deep vein thrombosis blood clots, as with a long haul flight.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 08, 2021, 07:46:01 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight. I assume this was meant humourously, but given the fervid state of debate on this topic, it might be worth you clarifying that.I just googled the question BST.plenty of information came up.The bbc news page has a good article.
Quote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight. I assume this was meant humourously, but given the fervid state of debate on this topic, it might be worth you clarifying that.
What are the rules on meeting people for a drink indoors in a cafe, anyone know?Because your Prime Minister doesn't - Johnson and the local MP with local business people in a cafe in Truro on Wednesday. Six people, all from different households, no masks and no social distancing:https://twitter.com/SonicDalek/status/1380120444234252289
Quote from: wilts rover on April 09, 2021, 03:51:08 pmWhat are the rules on meeting people for a drink indoors in a cafe, anyone know?Because your Prime Minister doesn't - Johnson and the local MP with local business people in a cafe in Truro on Wednesday. Six people, all from different households, no masks and no social distancing:https://twitter.com/SonicDalek/status/1380120444234252289 do you think he is breaking rules wilts?
Spoke to him wednesday, flew into Newquay, spent an Hour in the tower, took a drive round the airfield (G7 preps) then off to carbis bay (G7 host 30 mile down county) then onto Truro. Didn't fly out till nearly midnight. It was an eye opener the process of a visit!!
Quote from: bpoolrover on April 09, 2021, 04:43:12 pmQuote from: wilts rover on April 09, 2021, 03:51:08 pmWhat are the rules on meeting people for a drink indoors in a cafe, anyone know?Because your Prime Minister doesn't - Johnson and the local MP with local business people in a cafe in Truro on Wednesday. Six people, all from different households, no masks and no social distancing:https://twitter.com/SonicDalek/status/1380120444234252289 do you think he is breaking rules wilts? If you can tell me what the rules are bkpool I will let you know? What business meeting might he have been carrying out in Cornwall during local election purdah btw?
Quote from: drfchound on April 08, 2021, 07:48:43 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 08, 2021, 07:46:01 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 08, 2021, 07:17:38 pmInteresting stat on the news tonight re AZ and blood clots. You are as likely to die from an AZ related clot as you are to be killed on a 250 mile car trip or a long haul flight. I assume this was meant humourously, but given the fervid state of debate on this topic, it might be worth you clarifying that.I just googled the question BST.plenty of information came up.The bbc news page has a good article.Then you'll know that what NR said is factually wrong and what SS said is the actual story.Right?
Meanwhile, yet another appalling article by Heneghan in The Spectator this weekend, suggesting, wrongly that 10s of thousands of excess deaths have been caused by lockdown. I really don't understand what stunt the right wing media are trying to pull on this issue. And the fact that Sunak dragged Heneghan into Downing Street to convince Johnson to ignore SAGE on the circuit breaker last September is looking more and more like a shocking error.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 11, 2021, 11:31:11 pmMeanwhile, yet another appalling article by Heneghan in The Spectator this weekend, suggesting, wrongly that 10s of thousands of excess deaths have been caused by lockdown. I really don't understand what stunt the right wing media are trying to pull on this issue. And the fact that Sunak dragged Heneghan into Downing Street to convince Johnson to ignore SAGE on the circuit breaker last September is looking more and more like a shocking error.Yet you believe 50m could easily have died if the governments of this world hadn't locked down ?
Quote from: no eyed deer on April 12, 2021, 07:48:51 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 11, 2021, 11:31:11 pmMeanwhile, yet another appalling article by Heneghan in The Spectator this weekend, suggesting, wrongly that 10s of thousands of excess deaths have been caused by lockdown. I really don't understand what stunt the right wing media are trying to pull on this issue. And the fact that Sunak dragged Heneghan into Downing Street to convince Johnson to ignore SAGE on the circuit breaker last September is looking more and more like a shocking error.Yet you believe 50m could easily have died if the governments of this world hadn't locked down ?10s of millions, certainly. 7 billion people on earth. 70% infection rate to hit herd Immunity. 1% Infection Fatality Rate.It's primary school maths from there.And all that is ignoring the consequences of entire health systems falling over with the consequent huge increase in non-COVID deaths.What makes you think there wouldn't have been deaths on that scale?
There will be some scary numbers to come from India yet. A country with a poor health system, millions living in poverty and third world living conditions. Hospitals already overwhelmed. We may never know the actual devastation the virus will wreak here.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 11, 2021, 11:31:11 pmMeanwhile, yet another appalling article by Heneghan in The Spectator this weekend, suggesting, wrongly that 10s of thousands of excess deaths have been caused by lockdown. I really don't understand what stunt the right wing media are trying to pull on this issue. And the fact that Sunak dragged Heneghan into Downing Street to convince Johnson to ignore SAGE on the circuit breaker last September is looking more and more like a shocking error.https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/371/bmj.m4074.full.pdf
My mother and father in law, 14 weeks on from their first jab have not been called for their second jab yet, both 84 years old
Quote from: Filo on April 13, 2021, 10:58:01 amMy mother and father in law, 14 weeks on from their first jab have not been called for their second jab yet, both 84 years oldFilo. Get them booked sharpish through that link. I've just booked my second jab for 3 June which is the earliest I can get it.