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Quote from: godlike1 on April 14, 2021, 01:29:36 amQuote from: silent majority on April 13, 2021, 09:01:29 pmQuote from: sedwardsdrfc on April 13, 2021, 08:56:45 pmCan’t believe we’re just going to see the season out like this while waiting for people to send a CV in. So inflexible! If that’s the price for stability and a well run club so be it but sometimes you think just whyWhat are you expecting though?We rush through a signing of a manager, so we can throw him in to the last few games in a forlorn attempt to do what exactly? And then we saddle the new manager with a bunch of loan players that will be gone at the end of the season, they carry on losing and the new manager must wonder what the hell he's done. It just doesn't make sense.No, much more sensible to attract and find the right manager, let him build his squad over the summer and start again next season.Nope SM I your a club really wanting promotion you act quickly to get someone in place.promptly to give us the best chance to do that.No defending the club on this I'm afraid. They have well and truly f****d this season up. Even with 8 games to go there is a long shot someone new would get the points needed to get into the playoffs.What have the board done?Accept that being beaten every week and doing a young managers reputation no good at all is perfectly OK.No excuse for this at all. Im genuinely quite disgusting at the clubs approachSo, in summary, you're asking the club to do exactly what I outlined above and bugger all the consequences?Even now you're suggesting we just grab hold of a manager, throw him in the deep end and see what happens over the next 8 games, in the forlorn hope that this bunch of half interested players will respond and deliver the promotion that we would all like to see.Not going to happen.It seems to me that your the type of gambler who's stood at the end of the roulette table, having had a long streak of good wins, is now ignoring the run of losses that your luck has delivered and wants to throw the last of your mortgage money on a few turns of the whee,l in the hope that you can come out of this feeling good about yourself.
Quote from: silent majority on April 13, 2021, 09:01:29 pmQuote from: sedwardsdrfc on April 13, 2021, 08:56:45 pmCan’t believe we’re just going to see the season out like this while waiting for people to send a CV in. So inflexible! If that’s the price for stability and a well run club so be it but sometimes you think just whyWhat are you expecting though?We rush through a signing of a manager, so we can throw him in to the last few games in a forlorn attempt to do what exactly? And then we saddle the new manager with a bunch of loan players that will be gone at the end of the season, they carry on losing and the new manager must wonder what the hell he's done. It just doesn't make sense.No, much more sensible to attract and find the right manager, let him build his squad over the summer and start again next season.Nope SM I your a club really wanting promotion you act quickly to get someone in place.promptly to give us the best chance to do that.No defending the club on this I'm afraid. They have well and truly f****d this season up. Even with 8 games to go there is a long shot someone new would get the points needed to get into the playoffs.What have the board done?Accept that being beaten every week and doing a young managers reputation no good at all is perfectly OK.No excuse for this at all. Im genuinely quite disgusting at the clubs approach
Quote from: sedwardsdrfc on April 13, 2021, 08:56:45 pmCan’t believe we’re just going to see the season out like this while waiting for people to send a CV in. So inflexible! If that’s the price for stability and a well run club so be it but sometimes you think just whyWhat are you expecting though?We rush through a signing of a manager, so we can throw him in to the last few games in a forlorn attempt to do what exactly? And then we saddle the new manager with a bunch of loan players that will be gone at the end of the season, they carry on losing and the new manager must wonder what the hell he's done. It just doesn't make sense.No, much more sensible to attract and find the right manager, let him build his squad over the summer and start again next season.
Can’t believe we’re just going to see the season out like this while waiting for people to send a CV in. So inflexible! If that’s the price for stability and a well run club so be it but sometimes you think just why
Parkinson anyone.....?https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-ex-sunderland-boss-parkinson-is-leading-contender-for-doncaster-rovers-job/
Quote from: godlike1 on April 14, 2021, 08:02:48 amGoing by that comment you clearly think all I ever do is knock the club. I actually defend them resolutely in many cases
Going by that comment you clearly think all I ever do is knock the club. I actually defend them resolutely in many cases
silent majorityEven now you're suggesting we just grab hold of a manager, throw him in the deep end and see what happens over the next 8 games, in the forlorn hope that this bunch of half interested players will respond and deliver the promotion that we would all like to see.well did you not do that with Andy Butler
Quote from: MachoMadness on April 13, 2021, 07:51:06 pmBoateng is a youth coach at Villa. Someone putting 2+2 together with the Henshall connection I feel.Another "devout Christian". I think I've had my fill of those managing Rovers
Boateng is a youth coach at Villa. Someone putting 2+2 together with the Henshall connection I feel.
I think a step back, consider what's in front of you, and rely on your knowledge that this will work out. I'm sure by the time we get to the end of the week we'll have a significant number of highly qualified applicants for the job (in fact I already know we have) and that we can pick and choose who we know can help us through this once this season is done and dusted.
Quote from: silent majority on April 14, 2021, 02:07:17 pmI think a step back, consider what's in front of you, and rely on your knowledge that this will work out. I'm sure by the time we get to the end of the week we'll have a significant number of highly qualified applicants for the job (in fact I already know we have) and that we can pick and choose who we know can help us through this once this season is done and dusted.I'd agree with that...... my only hope is that the process means the new man/woman is in place well before the START of pre-season, and not a week before the season starts...
I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Board followed 'the process' in appointing AB... Perhaps they were trying to keep some continuity and decided that if the chose to go down 'the process' route it may take a few weeks to find and appoint a new man - so they decided to try and maintain stability and chose AB. I think that the Board have showed (in their last three full-time appointments) that they have a good selection process and that it has worked successfully.I guarantee that if we had swiftly appointed manager following DM's departure and it had failed, there would be plenty lined up to ask why they had rushed into things and not undergone due process...... a no win situation really.What's done is done IMO - we were let down by DM - who we all thought was here for the long run. The Board took what they considered the best option at the time and this has proved to be wrong - I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision, but I'm sure it was done with the hope that it could stabilise and galvanise the squad behind AB...
SM. So my question to you is why the new process is going to be any more successful than the previous process? As the knowledge quite clearly shows that the process hasn’t worked. Is something being changed to stop it failing so catastrophically again?
What's done is done IMO - we were let down by DM - who we all thought was here for the long run. The Board took what they considered the best option at the time and this has proved to be wrong - I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision, but I'm sure it was done with the hope that it could stabilise and galvanise the squad behind AB... I agree. I will have to agree to disagree with sm on this and leave it at that.Seasons a right off now so I'll wait to see who they choose and players brought in to try and start the new season with fresh hope
Too late to parachute someone in now so might as well stick with the plan. Your last paragraph is right for the situation as it is. Most of the disagreement comes from what should have happened when Moore leftAgain it's hindsight but Butler was plan A when Moore left not B so we're not looking at a plan C. The whole throwing a manager in at the deep end part only applies to Butler because he had no experience and was recently a team mate. How would Adkins, for instance, have been dropped in at the deep end? He'd have been given a brilliant chance of chasing promotion given our position and games in hand. We have a process for appointing managers which is fair enough. But clearly even if we waited for applicants and started it, as we now have, the day Moore left it would have potentially taken too long and meant the season fizzled out. We have a process but it has to be acknowledged that other clubs acted quick spoke to managers who's record is very good (why wait for a CV it's public information) and saved their seasons. For all the processes positives the negatives also have to be acknowledged. Where we are now it's fine to take our time. The seasons done we'll be lucky to get a point so why rush. But when Moore left we had a lot to play for that can't be ignored.
But the process would have taken 3 or 4 weeks to appoint a manager if past appointments are anything to go by so what woukd the benefit have been?
Quote from: Bailey Vickerage on April 13, 2021, 02:09:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchesterThat’s only till the end of the season.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchester
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list.
https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1
Quote from: GazLaz on April 13, 2021, 02:16:48 pmQuote from: Bailey Vickerage on April 13, 2021, 02:09:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchesterThat’s only till the end of the season. I demand Danny Wilson being on the list, it's not the same without him!