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Quote from: Lesonthewest on April 14, 2021, 06:01:29 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 13, 2021, 02:16:48 pmQuote from: Bailey Vickerage on April 13, 2021, 02:09:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchesterThat’s only till the end of the season. I demand Danny Wilson being on the list, it's not the same without him!I'm saying a (Mary's) prayer that it's not him.
Quote from: GazLaz on April 13, 2021, 02:16:48 pmQuote from: Bailey Vickerage on April 13, 2021, 02:09:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchesterThat’s only till the end of the season. I demand Danny Wilson being on the list, it's not the same without him!
Quote from: Bailey Vickerage on April 13, 2021, 02:09:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchesterThat’s only till the end of the season.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchester
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list.
https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1
Quote from: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on April 14, 2021, 06:16:47 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on April 14, 2021, 06:01:29 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 13, 2021, 02:16:48 pmQuote from: Bailey Vickerage on April 13, 2021, 02:09:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchesterThat’s only till the end of the season. I demand Danny Wilson being on the list, it's not the same without him!I'm saying a (Mary's) prayer that it's not him.F*cking brilliant.
Quote from: 5 on Tour on April 14, 2021, 03:06:37 pmSM. So my question to you is why the new process is going to be any more successful than the previous process? As the knowledge quite clearly shows that the process hasn’t worked. Is something being changed to stop it failing so catastrophically again? I'm not sure what you mean here. We agree that the process for identifying suitable candidates works, yes? After all the last two produced some good football and had us challenging towards the top of the table, which was their brief.The previous manager to those was identified and should have been a success, unfortunately what we couldn't predict is that he wouldn't take the job seriously enough.If however you are referring to the previous two managers leaving us then I'm not sure how that could be predicted in any process. What you can do is make changes to their contract which would attempt to dissuade them from being poached, and I'm sure that DRFC will be looking at that.
SM. So my question to you is why the new process is going to be any more successful than the previous process? As the knowledge quite clearly shows that the process hasn’t worked. Is something being changed to stop it failing so catastrophically again?
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 14, 2021, 06:23:01 pmQuote from: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on April 14, 2021, 06:16:47 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on April 14, 2021, 06:01:29 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 13, 2021, 02:16:48 pmQuote from: Bailey Vickerage on April 13, 2021, 02:09:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchesterThat’s only till the end of the season. I demand Danny Wilson being on the list, it's not the same without him!I'm saying a (Mary's) prayer that it's not him.F*cking brilliant.Younger folk on here won't get that
Quote from: silent majority on April 14, 2021, 04:15:37 pmQuote from: 5 on Tour on April 14, 2021, 03:06:37 pmSM. So my question to you is why the new process is going to be any more successful than the previous process? As the knowledge quite clearly shows that the process hasn’t worked. Is something being changed to stop it failing so catastrophically again? I'm not sure what you mean here. We agree that the process for identifying suitable candidates works, yes? After all the last two produced some good football and had us challenging towards the top of the table, which was their brief.The previous manager to those was identified and should have been a success, unfortunately what we couldn't predict is that he wouldn't take the job seriously enough.If however you are referring to the previous two managers leaving us then I'm not sure how that could be predicted in any process. What you can do is make changes to their contract which would attempt to dissuade them from being poached, and I'm sure that DRFC will be looking at that.In what way did Fergie not take the job seriously enough ?
More chance of Gene Wilder taking the job.
Quote from: ravenrover on April 14, 2021, 05:29:16 pmBut the process would have taken 3 or 4 weeks to appoint a manager if past appointments are anything to go by so what woukd the benefit have been?3 weeks from the day Moore left would take you to around the 21st March, Around the same time charlton appointed Adkins, and Pompey appointed the cowleys. Plenty of time to save the season
But the process would have taken 3 or 4 weeks to appoint a manager if past appointments are anything to go by so what woukd the benefit have been?
Quote from: dickos1 on April 14, 2021, 05:38:01 pmQuote from: ravenrover on April 14, 2021, 05:29:16 pmBut the process would have taken 3 or 4 weeks to appoint a manager if past appointments are anything to go by so what woukd the benefit have been?3 weeks from the day Moore left would take you to around the 21st March, Around the same time charlton appointed Adkins, and Pompey appointed the cowleys. Plenty of time to save the season Why take the least time? If it was 4 weeks it would have been the 28th a week less to save the season, really? With these players? They've shown that they are too flakeyJust out of interest lets see how many weeks it takes to appoint the new manager
Quote from: essexrover on April 13, 2021, 09:50:24 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on April 13, 2021, 07:51:06 pmBoateng is a youth coach at Villa. Someone putting 2+2 together with the Henshall connection I feel.Another "devout Christian". I think I've had my fill of those managing Rovers Any other group, other than Christians, and people would be up in arms about that statement.Why is it OK to decide to rule out all Christians based on the actions of one (or more)?
Quote from: MachoMadness on April 13, 2021, 07:51:06 pmBoateng is a youth coach at Villa. Someone putting 2+2 together with the Henshall connection I feel.Another "devout Christian". I think I've had my fill of those managing Rovers
Boateng is a youth coach at Villa. Someone putting 2+2 together with the Henshall connection I feel.
An interesting point to note. A week or so ago it was Portsmouth, Charlton and Sunderland that were held up as the examples of clubs that appointed an experienced manager to save their season. Now that Sunderland have lost a couple it’s just Portsmouth and Charlton. But if Sunderland win a few on the spin then they can be held up as an example to follow again. What can we learn from this? Appoint a manager that wins. People on here will want another manager when he doesn’t. The Butler decision was fine when he won the first two games. Then when our form dropped the Board should’ve done something different. It’ll always be that way it seems. I already feel for the next manager. They’ll only be the right choice when we win games.
Quote from: godlike1 on April 14, 2021, 04:03:06 pmWhat's done is done IMO - we were let down by DM - who we all thought was here for the long run. The Board took what they considered the best option at the time and this has proved to be wrong - I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision, but I'm sure it was done with the hope that it could stabilise and galvanise the squad behind AB... I agree. I will have to agree to disagree with sm on this and leave it at that.Seasons a right off now so I'll wait to see who they choose and players brought in to try and start the new season with fresh hopeIt's not clear as to what you are disagreeing with me on.
What's done is done IMO - we were let down by DM - who we all thought was here for the long run. The Board took what they considered the best option at the time and this has proved to be wrong - I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision, but I'm sure it was done with the hope that it could stabilise and galvanise the squad behind AB... I agree. I will have to agree to disagree with sm on this and leave it at that.Seasons a right off now so I'll wait to see who they choose and players brought in to try and start the new season with fresh hope
Why did Moore get the heave ho from WBA?
SM I think only one gamble has been taken recently and it wasn’t by the fans. The board took a gamble, lost and must now face up to the fans being displeased with the situation. We all accept that the board didn’t pick Butler thinking he would fail. However, they picked him and he has. The fault lies with the board and not AB as he shouldn’t have been given the job in the first place. If it was 3-4 games before the season ends and we are going to finish 12th regardless then I doubt anyone would much care but we were in the play off fight when he took over. In 2 games time we could be closer to the relegation zone than the playoffs. We are currently the most off form team from any pro league in the top 5 countries in Europe.
Quote from: silent majority on April 14, 2021, 04:45:38 pmQuote from: godlike1 on April 14, 2021, 04:03:06 pmWhat's done is done IMO - we were let down by DM - who we all thought was here for the long run. The Board took what they considered the best option at the time and this has proved to be wrong - I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision, but I'm sure it was done with the hope that it could stabilise and galvanise the squad behind AB... I agree. I will have to agree to disagree with sm on this and leave it at that.Seasons a right off now so I'll wait to see who they choose and players brought in to try and start the new season with fresh hopeIt's not clear as to what you are disagreeing with me on.Having AB a man with no football league management experience as plan B should and when DM did leave. Given where we were in the league the board should have been more flexible about the position we were in and whether AB was in fact the right choice on his own. This is when they could have said, let's appoint someone until the end of the season and ask AB to look after the team in an interim period, say 2-3 games.It would have let AB get more experience, and allowed some similar but shorter recruitment period. Would give who ever came in, presumably with more league experience than AB a massive incentive to get the job full time if we went up or were close to.
Quote from: ravenrover on April 14, 2021, 09:03:17 pmQuote from: dickos1 on April 14, 2021, 05:38:01 pmQuote from: ravenrover on April 14, 2021, 05:29:16 pmBut the process would have taken 3 or 4 weeks to appoint a manager if past appointments are anything to go by so what woukd the benefit have been?3 weeks from the day Moore left would take you to around the 21st March, Around the same time charlton appointed Adkins, and Pompey appointed the cowleys. Plenty of time to save the season Why take the least time? If it was 4 weeks it would have been the 28th a week less to save the season, really? With these players? They've shown that they are too flakeyJust out of interest lets see how many weeks it takes to appoint the new managerEven if a new manager came in on the 28th, we would’ve been only outside the playoffs on goal difference with 11 games to go.
Quote from: PDX_Rover on April 15, 2021, 06:35:04 amWhy did Moore get the heave ho from WBA? Because he wasn’t getting the best out of the players.
Curtis Woodhouse stated on Twitter that he has applied for the job, but that he knows he won't get a look in.A very minor bit of info but hadn't seen it discussed on here so thought I'd mention!
Quote from: RoversAlias on April 14, 2021, 11:05:37 pmCurtis Woodhouse stated on Twitter that he has applied for the job, but that he knows he won't get a look in.A very minor bit of info but hadn't seen it discussed on here so thought I'd mention!I can probably understand why he wouldn't get it, what part of the criteria does he hit, did he not just get sacked by 10th place NPL team Gainsborough Trinity?
Quote from: Petche on April 14, 2021, 06:54:12 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 14, 2021, 06:23:01 pmQuote from: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on April 14, 2021, 06:16:47 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on April 14, 2021, 06:01:29 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 13, 2021, 02:16:48 pmQuote from: Bailey Vickerage on April 13, 2021, 02:09:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:29:36 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 13, 2021, 01:11:47 pmhttps://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27451623Richie Wellens5/1Micky Mellon7/1Andy Butler8/1Neil Harris10/1James Coppinger12/1Daniel Stendel16/1Nicky Butt16/1Paul Tisdale16/1Roy Keane16/1Keith Curle20/1Phil Brown20/1Uwe Rosler20/1Mike Newell40/1This will no doubt change a million times in the next 3 weeks but from just those names I'd only take Richie Wellens, Daniel Stendel or Paul Tisdale. Nigel Clough would fit us well too, who isn't on the list. can’t see tisdale getting it with him only just taking on an advisory role at colchesterThat’s only till the end of the season. I demand Danny Wilson being on the list, it's not the same without him!I'm saying a (Mary's) prayer that it's not him.F*cking brilliant.Younger folk on here won't get thatThis has gone well over my head.