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Just don't drop a simple cross then there's no need to dissect footage. It's about giving the ref a decision to make. We know they are useless and will get more wrong than right
For those of you who weren’t there today, that was (in my opinion) the best we’ve played all season, particularly in the second half. The way in which we lost the game, so late on, was heartbreaking to say the least. I couldn’t see whether the penalties were legitimate or not from where I was but you always have to give the Ref the benefit of the doubt I suppose.The players at the end looked completely demoralised; they all clearly care. They also clearly have the talent as shown today. It’s just going to take time. Be absolutely clear though, if we’d have won today it would have been absolutely deserved. My Plymouth supporting mates agree that both sides did enough to win. But when the football Gods aren’t smiling at you…I’m not going to get involved in squabbles about our performances as I did last week. I’m sure that plenty of people will have a lot to say and losing in such a way adds fuel to the fire. Instead I’m going to buy a few beers and be miserable all the way back to London.
Neither look like penalties to me, The first one happens all the time, the bloke was crossing, he’d already crossed and the ball had reached the intended area, the slide from our lad didn’t stop anything that would’ve happened without it. The second one, the goalie didn’t rugby tackle him, his arms weren’t around him. The player dived
Quote from: dickos1 on September 25, 2021, 07:23:12 pmNeither look like penalties to me, The first one happens all the time, the bloke was crossing, he’d already crossed and the ball had reached the intended area, the slide from our lad didn’t stop anything that would’ve happened without it. The second one, the goalie didn’t rugby tackle him, his arms weren’t around him. The player dived Disagree, both nailed on pens.
11:24 here gives some light on the second penalty.https://www.google.com/search?q=plymouth+doncaster+highlights&oq=&aqs=chrome.3.69i58j69i64j35i39i362i523l8...8.-1j1j4&client=ms-android-ee-uk-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:194feedd,vid:azB0qZw74GU,st:0It's not perfect quality video, but if you step it through it looks like both Dahlberg's arms wrap momentarily around Agard's ankles. As I say, if Agard in a fraction of a second, chooses to dive in exactly the way you'd go down if your ankles were grabbed as you tried to get moving, then executed that dive flawlessly (including trailing his left leg behind him as he fell as if it had been grabbed) he really has missed his vocation.
The 1st penalty knowle slides into him even if he has not got the ball it's a foul, just because the guy put a crap cross in it's still a foul, the second one yes it's soft but the goalie had his arms round the guys leg so it's a penalty, yes the forward fell over easily but it's a penalty
Quote from: Lesonthewest on September 25, 2021, 11:29:19 pmQuote from: dickos1 on September 25, 2021, 07:23:12 pmNeither look like penalties to me, The first one happens all the time, the bloke was crossing, he’d already crossed and the ball had reached the intended area, the slide from our lad didn’t stop anything that would’ve happened without it. The second one, the goalie didn’t rugby tackle him, his arms weren’t around him. The player dived Disagree, both nailed on pens.In your opinion!How many times have we seen a player take a shot but get caught afterwards or play a ball into the box from the byline get caught and nothing is ever given,
On the penalty decisions, I agree with Richie Wellens:“I’m disappointed with the result but really proud of the players’ performance.”On the penalty decisions, Wellens said: “Is it a penalty? It probably is a penalty but week in week out you will see people getting to the byline and pulling a cross back and the defender going into him and it won’t be given.“And the second one’s not a penalty. Pontus says he hasn’t touched him and I just watched it back and he hasn’t touched him, the lad’s dived.”
I didn't say I agreed with his view on Wigan's 2nd goal, I said I agreed with his views on the penalties at Plymouth.