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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on January 01, 2013, 05:28:39 pm
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I hope the club are going to appeal it, disgraceful decision and ultimately cost us all 3 points!
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Not sending their keeper off was just as bad a decision. Terrible.
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Not sending their keeper off was just as bad a decision. Terrible.
Agreed, red card all day long!
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:facepalm:Happened right in front of me, Painter kicked the other player while he was on the ground well after the ball had gone. Violent conduct. Straight red. No complaints. He should have known better, simple as that!
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As far as I could see Their goalie didn't even get booked for that challenge yet our player got booked for their penalty that wasn't even a penalty and that has been confirmed by several. united fans. If their goalie had been sent off we would have won easy.
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As far as I could see Their goalie didn't even get booked for that challenge yet our player got booked for their penalty that wasn't even a penalty and that has been confirmed by several. united fans. If their goalie had been sent off we would have won easy.
He got a yellow, but should have got a straight red for DOGSO
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He should have walked the ref bottled it
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Dean's told Staton he's gonna appeal.
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Paynter was tugged, pushed and generally manhandled all game without a yellow in sight. Their keeper should have been sent off and from what I've heard so should have Paynter......one the ref got right and the other one he bottled and bottled badly.
However we should have been long out of sight by then by at least four goals. The substitutions imo had no bearing whatsoever on the final result but the officials definitely did. :mad:
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Paynter was tugged, pushed and generally manhandled all game without a yellow in sight. Their keeper should have been sent off and from what I've heard so should have Paynter......one the ref got right and the other one he bottled and bottled badly.
However we should have been long out of sight by then by at least four goals. The substitutions imo had no bearing whatsoever on the final result but the officials definitely did. :mad:
nowt new there then
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Paynter deserved to be sent off and that cost us the game.
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Yes,But did Paynter deserve to be fouled 10-12 times without the opposition getting a single yellow card?
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Often without even a free kick too.
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i agree with your points about Paynter he got battered and very little protection, but the thread title indicates we are talking about the red card
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I did'nt see the incident ck-rtid,but yes,if its true he kicked a player while on the ground,then it was right to send him off.Just get mad that the Ref was inconsistant.
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from where i was sitting it looked like the Blunt's player had hold of Paynters leg and Billy kicked out to try and get him off, unfortunately it is a red card for violent conduct, as soft as it was.
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I saw the same, he had hold of his legs, I was expecting the ref to book their player and he sends Paynter off.
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I saw the same, he had hold of his legs, I was expecting the ref to book their player and he sends Paynter off.
That is what the commentry was expecting to happen..............
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Paynter actually did win a number of free kicks today but that just shows how often he was getting fouled. If he really did kick out at their player then he's silly to lose his head. That red cost us the game.
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I think he was just trying to shake their player off. I don't think there was that much aggression in it, and I certainly wouldn't go as far as to say it was a stamp.
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Surprise Surprise Wilson reckons both were stonewall penalties but he didn't see the sending off incident :woot:
"In my opinion I thought they were both stonewall penalties and maybe they thought they had the game won. But I thought we had a foothold in the game even before the sending off, which I can't comment on because I didn't see the incident
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/league-one/news/article/419/8376316/wilson-pleased-by-character
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The ref turned around just as Paynter sharply moved his foot to free himself from the tangle of legs. He probably then guessed what happened and couldn't wait to get the old red card out. Cheers ref.
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Seen the Paynter red card on sky and I must have missed something because there player just dives randomly to the ground, if thats what he's given it for it is an absolute disgrace.
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I think it was just after that when the camara moved away
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If we appeal and lose, does that mean their forums will regularly feature the words...
"Doncaster Rovers lose appeal"?? :lol:
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Yes,But did Paynter deserve to be fouled 10-12 times without the opposition getting a single yellow card?
Err, their centre back who was marking Paynter got booked for persistent fouling...
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Err, their centre back who was marking Paynter got booked for persistent fouling...
I think he's referring to #32 Kennedy, who never got booked.
In fact neither of their center backs got booked, according to sky sports: http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/262996/teams
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I think it was just after that when the camara moved away
If the camera didn't capture the incident (or non-incident) then sadly we'll do very well to win the appeal I'd fear. If the ref sticks to his guns and there's nothing to show he made a mistake then it could well be upheld :(
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I see they still can't be bothered to update the strips of players, apparently Woods still playing for Man U.......remind me how long has he been with us.
All the money and resources that Sky have you would think they could update every now and then. Reporting of course biased against the smaller club........no change there then. :mad:
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Deano says he has seen it on video so it must have been caught on camera.
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Err, their centre back who was marking Paynter got booked for persistent fouling...
I think he's referring to #32 Kennedy, who never got booked.
In fact neither of their center backs got booked, according to sky sports: http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/262996/teams
Kennedy was the worst offender. He committed more fouls than made clean tackles but somehow avoided a card every time- I'd just assumed he was the ref's nephew or something.
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Err, their centre back who was marking Paynter got booked for persistent fouling...
I think he's referring to #32 Kennedy, who never got booked.
In fact neither of their center backs got booked, according to sky sports: http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/262996/teams
Kennedy was the worst offender. He committed more fouls than made clean tackles but somehow avoided a card every time- I'd just assumed he was the ref's nephew or something.
True I think he thought he was at Castle Park egg chasing. How he got away 'scot free' escapes me .
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We have our own cameras at games also (one on the south for example) maybe that caught it?
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Deano says he has seen it on video so it must have been caught on camera.
maybe it's on the clubs own camera rather then the tv one
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I hope the club are going to appeal it, disgraceful decision and ultimately cost us all 3 points!
it cost paynter an extra match if his appeal fails . Not worth the hassle , just get on with looking to fill his position for 3 games and not 4.
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I hope the club are going to appeal it, disgraceful decision and ultimately cost us all 3 points!
it cost paynter an extra match if his appeal fails . Not worth the hassle , just get on with looking to fill his position for 3 games and not 4.
Not sure that would apply as this will be the club appealing, not the player himself.
Just in case, any news on Brown?
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It was a straight red, he kicked him. Their player wrapped his leg around Paynter, trying to trip him and Paynter reacted by kicking him. It wouldn't surprise me if Wilson's orders was to go out in the second half and get under our skin and make our players react, if that is the case, it worked...
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If that's the case Lee then Paynter got what he deserved , there was no need for that sort of foul in that part of the pitch. :(
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It was a straight red, he kicked him. Their player wrapped his leg around Paynter, trying to trip him and Paynter reacted by kicking him. It wouldn't surprise me if Wilson's orders was to go out in the second half and get under our skin and make our players react, if that is the case, it worked...
So the blunts player should have been yellow carded but as the ref was facing the other way for a lot of the incident he didnt see it and was to quick to judge without taking advice.
Bad decision without the full facts
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It was a straight red, he kicked him. Their player wrapped his leg around Paynter, trying to trip him and Paynter reacted by kicking him. It wouldn't surprise me if Wilson's orders was to go out in the second half and get under our skin and make our players react, if that is the case, it worked...
So the blunts player should have been yellow carded but as the ref was facing the other way for a lot of the incident he didnt see it and was to quick to judge without taking advice.
Bad decision without the full facts
It's called selective vision Daggers the man had it all game not so much deaf as a Coote but BLIND as a Coote.
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It was a straight red, he kicked him. Their player wrapped his leg around Paynter, trying to trip him and Paynter reacted by kicking him. It wouldn't surprise me if Wilson's orders was to go out in the second half and get under our skin and make our players react, if that is the case, it worked...
So the blunts player should have been yellow carded but as the ref was facing the other way for a lot of the incident he didnt see it and was to quick to judge without taking advice.
Bad decision without the full facts
I agree, I thought at first both players would get a yellow with the ref not seeing anything (I doubt the other officials did either) but thinking back our crowd in the east stand reacted to the player wrapping his leg around Paynter, the ref probably turned around and saw the kick and jumped to conclusions.
Their keeper should have walked as well, and a number of their players for challenges all afternoon, we could go on all day. I wouldn't say the ref was biased, he gave us a lot of soft free kicks as well. As for the Sheffield United Corner which should have been a goal kick, and then 2 minutes later he gives a goal kick when it should have been a Sheff U corner. He was clueless all game and the lino on the West Stand must have looked at the ref before raising his flag every single time.
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It was a straight red, he kicked him. Their player wrapped his leg around Paynter, trying to trip him and Paynter reacted by kicking him. It wouldn't surprise me if Wilson's orders was to go out in the second half and get under our skin and make our players react, if that is the case, it worked...
So the blunts player should have been yellow carded but as the ref was facing the other way for a lot of the incident he didnt see it and was to quick to judge without taking advice.
Bad decision without the full facts
I agree, I thought at first both players would get a yellow with the ref not seeing anything (I doubt the other officials did either) but thinking back our crowd in the east stand reacted to the player wrapping his leg around Paynter, the ref probably turned around and saw the kick and jumped to conclusions.
Their keeper should have walked as well, and a number of their players for challenges all afternoon, we could go on all day. I wouldn't say the ref was biased, he gave us a lot of soft free kicks as well. As for the Sheffield United Corner which should have been a goal kick, and then 2 minutes later he gives a goal kick when it should have been a Sheff U corner. He was clueless all game and the lino on the West Stand must have looked at the ref before raising his flag every single time.
Hopefully someone else will have seen this (or I'm going to sound like even more of a nutter than usual) ,but at one point said lino in front of the West stand appeared to be either texting or fiddling about with some other kind of device - he wasn't writing anything as both his thumbs were going on something, which went into his back pocket when he'd done.
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Hopefully someone else will have seen this (or I'm going to sound like even more of a nutter than usual) ,but at one point said lino in front of the West stand appeared to be either texting or fiddling about with some other kind of device - he wasn't writing anything as both his thumbs were going on something, which went into his back pocket when he'd done.
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That lino also went to Sheffield University and used to Referee in County Senior League !!!!!
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i din't see the Paynter incident and mixed opinion on here doesn't help me but a seasoned pro shouldn't give the ref the opportunity to make such a call. He was naive and I hope for his sake that he'd left before Rob Jones got into the dressing room.
I thought their keeper should've gone but looking at the replay you could argue that Cotts wasn't direct on goal and defenders were running to cover. Shite but that'll be the interpretation all day long.
Their pen was from a blatant dive but Griffin was tugging his shirt seconds before. Naive again. Ref should've booked both players and given pen.
I thought they were cynical all match and should've picked up more bookings. They were clueless for 75 mins but well spirted fightback. Great game, except they're equaliser - I was sat right next to the utd fans, not nice.
Very encouraging for the rest of the season though, looks like we could have sorted out our home strategy (not using Keegan and Harper!). And that's the most positive we've looked for ages.
Have to say that the Hume-Paynter partnership was sublime at times, particularly the breakaway chance. Their keeper played a blinder too.
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Hopefully someone else will have seen this (or I'm going to sound like even more of a nutter than usual) ,but at one point said lino in front of the West stand appeared to be either texting or fiddling about with some other kind of device - he wasn't writing anything as both his thumbs were going on something, which went into his back pocket when he'd done.
He changed his flag at sum point so maybe his buzzer wasn't working which is apparently wired upto the refs earpiece
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That happened at Preston, didn't see it on Tuesday.
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The Paynter incident happened in front of me, Billy did kick out but away from their player, he was trying to release himself as both legs were trapping him. That said if the Ref saw him kick out from his vantage point I can understand the red card.
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That happened at Preston, didn't see it on Tuesday.
defo happened against Sheffield utd aswell
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Rob Station just tweeted as no VT evidence Rovers not going to appeal
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Rob Station just tweeted as no VT evidence Rovers not going to appeal
Saunders said in his interview he had watched the DVD and saw the incident again.
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Probably nothing shows the full incident only part
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Rovers will not be appealling his Red card
COYR
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It says on Vital Football that we cannot find sufficient video evidence , so have decided not to appeal.
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It says on Vital Football that we cannot find sufficient video evidence , so have decided not to appeal.
confirmed by Saunders in his colchester preview interview.
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You can see on the reply that he kicked out and ref saw him . Stupid after all he didn't retaliate all through the game and finally he blew , I hope gets a fine it cost the club points and we all know points mean ....promotion
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We wont get promotion will we rovers are skint :)