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Title: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 17, 2018, 08:18:52 pm
With the Rotherham game next week. Lets see who people feel the biggest rival is...
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: the vicar on February 17, 2018, 08:26:21 pm
Our self we only need to fear our selves
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 17, 2018, 08:31:36 pm
Barnsley for me but only by a very short head from Rotherham.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: donnievic on February 17, 2018, 08:32:50 pm
Rotherham scunny then York/Lincoln/Mansfield/Grimsby since I have been supporting then then Barnsley and sheff clubs when in same div
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 17, 2018, 08:43:48 pm
Rotherham scunny then York/Lincoln/Mansfield/Grimsby since I have been supporting then then Barnsley and sheff clubs when in same div
It would seem people are not picking Barnsley because they are in a different league.
The question should have read. ‘Who are our biggest rivals based on all the local clubs being in the same division.’  The poll would I am sure be a very close call between Rotherham and Barnsley with Scunthorpe 3rd. As we are not in the same division as Barnsley the poll is distorted as they are not rivals this season.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: donnievic on February 17, 2018, 08:52:26 pm
Only really ever been rivals of Barnsley since we started playing against them in last 10 yearsor so before then they were just another local side but not really a rival
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: darren61 on February 17, 2018, 08:58:36 pm
Always York or Lincoln
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Haxey-Hood-DRFC on February 17, 2018, 09:04:23 pm
All depends on which side of town you're from. But I think we can all agree the Holy Trinity is made up of SCUNNY, Rovrum and Barnsley.  ;)
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 17, 2018, 09:52:03 pm
Only really ever been rivals of Barnsley since we started playing against them in last 10 yearsor so before then they were just another local side but not really a rival
Yes but we played against Barnsley in the 50’s 60’s 70’s on a regular basis for any one in their 50’s & 60’s + I would suggest Barnsley are the biggest rivals.
We have played Barnsley much more than Rotherham in the last 14 years so would be bigger rivals for the younger supporters. Thoughts anyone.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Lincoln Rover on February 17, 2018, 10:13:48 pm
Reckon it's an age/era thing.
 I was brought up on a diet of Barnsley, Barnsley and Barnsley so my choice is easy.
Scunthorpe is local to me but it just doesn't quite have the same feel.
Rotherham, who are they?
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: idler on February 17, 2018, 10:49:53 pm
Only really ever been rivals of Barnsley since we started playing against them in last 10 yearsor so before then they were just another local side but not really a rival
Yes but we played against Barnsley in the 50’s 60’s 70’s on a regular basis for any one in their 50’s & 60’s + I would suggest Barnsley are the biggest rivals.
We have played Barnsley much more than Rotherham in the last 14 years so would be bigger rivals for the younger supporters. Thoughts anyone.
I agree Campsall, Barnsley shade it over Rotherham for me. We restarted our rivalry with Barnsley about 1964 whereas apart from the Sheffield County Cup league games against Rotherham didn't resume until about 1969.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2018, 12:06:26 am
All depends on which side of town you're from. But I think we can all agree the Holy Trinity is made up of SCUNNY, Rovrum and Barnsley.  ;)
But if you live in Haxey you are in Lincolnshire so you are a lot nearer Scunthorpe.
Doncaster is in S.Yorkshire so Barnsley and Rotherham are natural rivals.
Ask Scunthorpe fans and they will say Lincoln and Grimsby are bigger rivals to them than us.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: dickos1 on February 18, 2018, 12:18:01 am
Yep, and hull
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2018, 12:26:29 am
In mileage terms. Town centre to town centre.
Rotherham 14 miles
Barnsley 16 miles
Scunthorpe 27 miles.
York City 40 miles
Lincoln City 42 miles
Bradford City 42 miles
Huddersfield 47 miles

IMO it is simply no contest is it. Choice of Rotherham or Barnsley
Other than Scunthorpe we have played them more often and Scunthorpe is not in Yorkshire and is twice the distance.

As we are have been in a lower leagues to both Sheffield clubs and Leeds apart from a few seasons I am discounting them as major rivals.

Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2018, 12:32:01 am
Hull 50 miles, past rivals but not in the same bracket as the top 3 on the list. I really enjoyed our visits to Hull City. Great atmosphere.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Padge_DRFC on February 18, 2018, 12:34:13 am
Barnsley and Rotherham wouldn’t say we were there’s. they’d say the 2 Sheffield clubs but neither of them care about them.
Sad thing is we live in a much bigger, better town and more populated town, but Barnsley and Rotherham have more fans and been more successful than us over the last 20 odd years I’ve been watching Rovers
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 18, 2018, 12:52:34 am
I've said it before, and I'll say it again because it is inarguably true. Both our closest rivals, Rotherham and Barnsley, are towns that have got absolutely nothing going for them in comparison other than bragging rights over their football team. That is why they consider themselves too good to be our rivals, even when they are not.

Watching their local footy team is like friggin in the rigging....... There is f**k all else to do.

Sad, but true.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2018, 12:53:45 am
Barnsley and Rotherham wouldn’t say we were there’s. they’d say the 2 Sheffield clubs but neither of them care about them.
Sad thing is we live in a much bigger, better town and more populated town, but Barnsley and Rotherham have more fans and been more successful than us over the last 20 odd years I’ve been watching Rovers
Rotherham have not been more successful Padge in the last 15 seasons. We have. FACT
They were in the 80’s and 90’s but other than that they have not.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: RoversAlias on February 18, 2018, 01:11:27 am
It's Rotherham for me, always believed that and I've barely seen us play them having been a supporter for only two decades.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: KiwiRover on February 18, 2018, 08:41:07 am
My era was the late 80's through 90's. I can only remember  a handful of games against Rotherham, but there is no question in my heart or mind that they are our rivals.

Scunthorpe after that.

Then Leeds for me, but that's a fairly recent thing.

Got nothing against Barnsley really.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2018, 08:59:47 am
Rotherham no doubt. Horrible club, populated by web toed, 12 fingered inbreds living in a cesspit of a town. I take huge delight from beating them.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2018, 09:20:29 am
Rotherham no doubt. Horrible club, populated by web toed, 12 fingered inbreds living in a cesspit of a town. I take huge delight from beating them.
Those sort of comments quite frankly are not called for. How can we complain about Rotherham fans giving us verbal ...... if some of ours are as bad.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Donny Exile in York on February 18, 2018, 09:50:33 am
Me and a mate were thinking probably back in the early 90s after suffering so many derby defeats to Rotherscum about how football songs or the like generate and we were thinking how apt To be a Pilgrim is to Plymouth then decided to tweak it as follows....

Who would true valour see,
Let him come hither,
One here will constant be,
Come wind, come weather.
There's no discouragement
Shall make him once relent
His first avowed intent
To win at Rotherham....

I have only ever seen us win at Rotherham once in 1985. I hope I am able to sing this in a drunkern haze somewhere next Saturday. This is the true 'Cusack' derby.. there is no other like it for us Donny fans!
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Donny Exile in York on February 18, 2018, 10:21:09 am
And it's a shame we didn't get to play then a few times when they were on their uppers in their temporary Sheffield home..
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2018, 12:48:46 pm
Sorry Campsall, it’s only a bit of fun isn’t it? Remember that? Anyway, I’ll be sure to run anything I post by you first in future. I wouldn’t want to suffer the wrath of your pomposity again.



Rotherham no doubt. Horrible club, populated by web toed, 12 fingered inbreds living in a cesspit of a town. I take huge delight from beating them.
Those sort of comments quite frankly are not called for. How can we complain about Rotherham fans giving us verbal ...... if some of ours are as bad.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2018, 01:43:17 pm
Sorry Campsall, it’s only a bit of fun isn’t it? Remember that? Anyway, I’ll be sure to run anything I post by you first in future. I wouldn’t want to suffer the wrath of your pomposity again.



Rotherham no doubt. Horrible club, populated by web toed, 12 fingered inbreds living in a cesspit of a town. I take huge delight from beating them.
Those sort of comments quite frankly are not called for. How can we complain about Rotherham fans giving us verbal ...... if some of ours are as bad.
I am not being pompous. I am just saying it’s no good moaning about insults being made about Doncaster Rovers or the town by a tiny minority, if you return it with the same about them.
All your doing is coming down to the same level as them. Ignore them, lets do our talking on the field of play and then we can hear a deafening silence from down the A630/M18
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: glosterred on February 18, 2018, 01:43:35 pm
Our biggest rival has got to be the team we play next, so Rotherscum next Saturday and then Bury the week after.


COYR
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: The Beast on February 18, 2018, 01:55:01 pm
For me at Edenthorpe it's Scunny geographically. I don't really hate, Scunny Rotherham or Barnsley particularly.
Hate Leeds with a passion, can't abide Mansfield and always makes me smile when Wendys lose!
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: RedJ on February 18, 2018, 03:14:12 pm
Our biggest rival has got to be the team we play next, so Rotherscum next Saturday and then Bury the week after.


COYR

What a load of shite this is. We don't have a rivalry with every team we play. By that logic, Arsenal were at one point our biggest rivals.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: glosterred on February 18, 2018, 03:37:41 pm
Our biggest rival has got to be the team we play next, so Rotherscum next Saturday and then Bury the week after.


COYR

What a load of shite this is. We don't have a rivalry with every team we play. By that logic, Arsenal were at one point our biggest rivals.
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You can only play one team at a time, therefore the game you are playing next has to be the biggest rivalry, next week its Rotherscum followed by Bury. What the other local team are doing or who the other local teams are playing doesn't matter one jot if the Rovers are not playing them, therefore my logic is that the team you play next is your biggest rivalry because there is nothing the Rovers can do to influence those game
Our biggest rival has got to be the team we play next, so Rotherscum next Saturday and then Bury the week after.


COYR

What a load of shite this is. We don't have a rivalry with every team we play. By that logic, Arsenal were at one point our biggest rivals.

Not shite at all, if the thread title was who was our biggest local rival then it would be the likes of Rotherham or Barnsley but its not so our biggest rivals has to be the next team we play.


COYR
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Copps is Magic on February 18, 2018, 04:07:15 pm
Generational thing. Rovers gained a new generation of supporters after 2002. Rotherham gained a new generation of supporters after 2011. In the broad period from 1998 til today we have only played Rotherham 5 times competitively. You have to go back to the 80s to find when we last played them regularly. If we set an arbitrary cut-off point of being 7 years old to really comprehend what a 'rivalry' is then you need to be at least 27 (probably 4/5 years older in reality) to appreciate any of it. Because there's not been enough competitive games between the two.

Whereas since 1998, we've played Barnsley 19 times and Scunthorpe 22 times. For me these two are our rivals. Barnsley more so because I've personally had a few bad experiences with their fans and generally they are thick as shite, and miserable.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: RedJ on February 18, 2018, 04:07:54 pm
Our biggest rival has got to be the team we play next, so Rotherscum next Saturday and then Bury the week after.


COYR

What a load of shite this is. We don't have a rivalry with every team we play. By that logic, Arsenal were at one point our biggest rivals.
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You can only play one team at a time, therefore the game you are playing next has to be the biggest rivalry, next week its Rotherscum followed by Bury. What the other local team are doing or who the other local teams are playing doesn't matter one jot if the Rovers are not playing them, therefore my logic is that the team you play next is your biggest rivalry because there is nothing the Rovers can do to influence those game
Our biggest rival has got to be the team we play next, so Rotherscum next Saturday and then Bury the week after.


COYR

What a load of shite this is. We don't have a rivalry with every team we play. By that logic, Arsenal were at one point our biggest rivals.

Not shite at all, if the thread title was who was our biggest local rival then it would be the likes of Rotherham or Barnsley but its not so our biggest rivals has to be the next team we play.


COYR

So for the record were Arsenal our biggest rivals back in September?
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: glosterred on February 18, 2018, 04:24:34 pm
You’ve read my replies Redj, what do you think I’m going to say?


COYR
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2018, 04:46:30 pm
Generational thing. Rovers gained a new generation of supporters after 2002. Rotherham gained a new generation of supporters after 2011. In the broad period from 1998 til today we have only played Rotherham 5 times competitively. You have to go back to the 80s to find when we last played them regularly. If we set an arbitrary cut-off point of being 7 years old to really comprehend what a 'rivalry' is then you need to be at least 27 (probably 4/5 years older in reality) to appreciate any of it. Because there's not been enough competitive games between the two.

Whereas since 1998, we've played Barnsley 19 times and Scunthorpe 22 times. For me these two are our rivals. Barnsley more so because I've personally had a few bad experiences with their fans and generally they are thick as shite, and miserable.
I think we have a very healthy and respectful rivalry with Barnsley. Real good banter with their supporters. Non of the trash that’s going about with the Rotherham fans.
This hate there is, is not healthy. I don’t like Rotherham and want to win so very much on Saturday but dislike and unequivocal hate are two different things. We are not Celtic and Rangers are we.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Friendly Miller on February 18, 2018, 07:18:43 pm
Well said Campsall!

I can't understand the hatred between two sets of fans when all we're really doing is supporting our local clubs.

I just hope, well obviously that we win and that it goe  off without any violence.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2018, 07:48:34 pm
Well said Campsall!

I can't understand the hatred between two sets of fans when all we're really doing is supporting our local clubs.

I just hope, well obviously that we win and that it goe off without any violence.
Well said. May the best team win as long as it’s us. To be honest I will take a dodgy 95th min winner.
But seriously, oh I was being serious. You are red hot favourites with your current form, so all the pressure is on Rotherham. Hope it’s a great game as you said and no trouble before during or after the game.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Lesonthewest on February 18, 2018, 07:56:16 pm
1. Rotherham.
2. Barnsley.
3. Scunny.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Friendly Miller on February 18, 2018, 08:00:37 pm
I don't see us as red hot favorites. It's a local derby where form and league positions ho out the window and it doesn't help with some of our moronic fans giving it large on twitter and radio Sheffield.

A few years ago we played Sheffield united away 4 days before they played Hull in the FACup semis and as a result they field pretty much a team made up of reserves and juniors.

Our so called fans were all over the media saying how easy it was going to be and how many we'd get and......we lost 1-0 to the Blades chants of 'we beat you with kids'

I can see that happening again. But on the upside we did eventually get promoted via the playoffs that season
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: swintonrover on February 18, 2018, 08:01:40 pm
Despite us not playing Rotherham for a while, I always consider them our biggest rivals, though that is partly because I have had to misfortune to grow up surrounded by the fans in Swinton.  Age and location are important though, I have no problem with Lincoln unlike some of our older supporters.

It does show a different mindset between our fans and theirs though, as they view the Sheffield clubs as rivals, and we honestly don't care.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Mustapha-Dump on February 18, 2018, 08:35:14 pm
26 years old
Despise Rotherham the most, followed by Wednesday, Wednesday is mainly due to the fans and their ego rather than my distaste for Rotherham which is towards the team, club, badge, ground and whole horrid town. Scunny solid third.
Lincoln not even on my radar if I’m being totally truthful, don’t mind Barnsley my grandad was a Barnsley fan, sheff u and Leeds I can take or leave unless we’re playing them. I do have a strong dislike for Grimsby but without sounding arrogant they’re a little bit irrelevant. If someone offered me win Saturday and stay up but don’t win another game all season, I’d take it.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 18, 2018, 08:42:08 pm
Sheffield Wednesday and Leeds are probably due to Donny Owls and Donny Whites, nothing else. Sheff Utd was only really due to them thinking were jumped up when we started beating them, Other wise its a good relationship.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: andysly on February 18, 2018, 09:02:51 pm
Agree with it being a generational thing, my first derby days were against Barnsley.
I’ve no particular dislike of any of the other South Yorkshire teams, and the deluded Sheffield fans do give us a laugh on Praise or Grumble.
I do reserve some animosity for Mansfield and those wan***s from Nottingham, not County mind.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 20, 2018, 08:33:26 am
Little Johnny: "Mum I want to be a Rotherham fan when I grow up."

Mum: "Make your mind up Johnny - you can't do both."
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: les@donr on February 20, 2018, 04:45:07 pm
dingles for me, nearly got into an altercation with one of their nut cases at their ground, it would be a miracle if they shared one brain among the lot of them.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: mjg on February 20, 2018, 06:20:51 pm
Leeds . Simply because I hate them
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: The Red Baron on February 20, 2018, 06:40:36 pm
I voted for Rotherham because Rovers v Rotherham on Boxing Day 1969 was the first local derby I saw. We lost 2-1 to a last minute goal scored by a substitute called Lee Brogden. If anything is going to make you hate another club, that's a good way to do it.

Although in the mid-70s we rarely played Rotherham but had some tasty games with Barnsley.
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on February 21, 2018, 11:01:19 pm
Barnsley because when we played them at home, I had to walk an extra 5 mins from the middle of Scawsby to get a safe bus on York Road  :chair:
Title: Re: Who's our biggest rival?
Post by: tommy toes on February 21, 2018, 11:20:47 pm
I was counting up  the times I've been on away grounds over the years and Scunthorpe was way ahead. Must be at least 15 times so them for me.