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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: EasyforDennis on October 20, 2021, 09:56:27 am

Title: Dan Gardner.
Post by: EasyforDennis on October 20, 2021, 09:56:27 am
Where is he? Injured or joined Bogle's Boys?
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: drfchound on October 20, 2021, 09:58:18 am
Injured apparently.
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 20, 2021, 11:30:30 am
Another shocking signing from Wellens.
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: roversdude on October 20, 2021, 01:33:02 pm
Been played out of position most of the time
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: Bailey Vickerage on October 20, 2021, 02:22:56 pm
Injured his foot, wellens said he will be back next week after having a scan and the injury not being as bad as he first thought.

The games he’s played in midfield he’s looked like a decent squad player but when he’s been played as a false 9 or the left winger he’s been no good.
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: Move DRFC on October 20, 2021, 04:13:54 pm
Was pretty clear watching pre season games he and Barlow were nowhere near good enough. Speaks volumes of the budget.
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: sha66y on October 22, 2021, 10:02:34 am
Was pretty clear watching pre season games he and Barlow were nowhere near good enough. Speaks volumes of the budget.

When you say “ speaks volumes of the budget” are you agreeing that the budget was spread so thin that we couldn’t afford the better players due to financial constraints, so had to opt for bargain basement players within the budget in order to have enough players to start the season?
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: Move DRFC on October 22, 2021, 03:22:44 pm
Was pretty clear watching pre season games he and Barlow were nowhere near good enough. Speaks volumes of the budget.

When you say “ speaks volumes of the budget” are you agreeing that the budget was spread so thin that we couldn’t afford the better players due to financial constraints, so had to opt for bargain basement players within the budget in order to have enough players to start the season?

That's exactly what I'm saying yes.
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: sha66y on October 23, 2021, 09:21:20 am
Was pretty clear watching pre season games he and Barlow were nowhere near good enough. Speaks volumes of the budget.

When you say “ speaks volumes of the budget” are you agreeing that the budget was spread so thin that we couldn’t afford the better players due to financial constraints, so had to opt for bargain basement players within the budget in order to have enough players to start the season?

That's exactly what I'm saying yes.


So how do we get the benefactors to increase the budget, from were im sat everyone has done what they could with the resources available....
Perhaps the club can not afford ambition?
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: wilts rover on October 23, 2021, 09:26:52 am
How much will it cost to buy our way out of League 1 - discuss?
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: Janso on October 23, 2021, 09:48:49 am
How much will it cost to buy our way out of League 1 - discuss?

This is the one I can never quite get an answer to. It's always something along the lines of "more than what we have now".
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: drfchound on October 23, 2021, 09:52:59 am
How much will it cost to buy our way out of League 1 - discuss?

This is the one I can never quite get an answer to. It's always something along the lines of "more than what we have now".





…… and even if we did, how much would it cost to even stay in The Championship.
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: jmt23 on October 23, 2021, 09:55:50 am
It can't be answered? how much have Sunderland, Ipswich and others previously spent  - and that is the clubs point:
a) we can't afford to keep up with the jones's
b) it guarantees nowt

Another view on that question would be, if we spend as much as we are currently, we will not be in the league for much longer. :boxing:
 :rtid:
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: no eyed deer on October 23, 2021, 10:54:21 am
How much will it cost to buy our way out of League 1 - discuss?

Exactly what we've spent.

League two here we come
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: wilts rover on October 23, 2021, 10:57:07 am
It can't be answered? how much have Sunderland, Ipswich and others previously spent  - and that is the clubs point:
a) we can't afford to keep up with the jones's
b) it guarantees nowt

Another view on that question would be, if we spend as much as we are currently, we will not be in the league for much longer. :boxing:
 :rtid:

No - that is - How much do we need to spend to buy a place in League 1?
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: murham on October 23, 2021, 11:16:09 am
Obviously the club wants league 2 football
Rebuild from the bottom, find our level and come back
Hope I’m wrong but .........
These are difficult times and we don’t have the money or incentive to throw good money after bad
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: Colin C No.3 on October 23, 2021, 11:19:47 am
It can't be answered? how much have Sunderland, Ipswich and others previously spent  - and that is the clubs point:
a) we can't afford to keep up with the jones's
b) it guarantees nowt

Another view on that question would be, if we spend as much as we are currently, we will not be in the league for much longer. :boxing:
 :rtid:

No - that is - How much do we need to spend to buy a place in League 1?

£2.3 million.
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: roversdude on October 23, 2021, 12:01:46 pm
Why oh why would a club want to get relegated????
We have a nucleus of players on longer contracts so unless there are relegation clauses will still be on the same money
The overheads of the ground won’t change
What will change is income less home fans certainly less away fans
Income from the EFL will also be reduced
Sorry your argument doesn’t fly
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: sha66y on October 23, 2021, 12:14:02 pm
Why oh why would a club want to get relegated????
We have a nucleus of players on longer contracts so unless there are relegation clauses will still be on the same money
The overheads of the ground won’t change
What will change is income less home fans certainly less away fans
Income from the EFL will also be reduced
Sorry your argument doesn’t fly

Initially the crowd may be a bit lower, however the psychology of the situation is that we should be deemed as a “ big club”  in league2,
which brings its own positives….
We may win big, we may outplay and out pass lesser teams, and we might get on a great roll which should encourage floating supporters to come back…..

However , being beat week in week out , can not be a good advertisement to get folks through the turnstiles…..I reckon we would sell more season tickets for league2 based upon the expectancy alone…( might need clever marketing strategy)
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: roversdude on October 23, 2021, 12:30:32 pm
I think it would be a disaster and we would lose fans we may never get back
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: EasyforDennis on October 23, 2021, 12:30:57 pm
Why oh why would a club want to get relegated????
We have a nucleus of players on longer contracts so unless there are relegation clauses will still be on the same money
The overheads of the ground won’t change
What will change is income less home fans certainly less away fans
Income from the EFL will also be reduced
Sorry your argument doesn’t fly

Initially the crowd may be a bit lower, however the psychology of the situation is that we should be deemed as a “ big club”  in league2,
which brings its own positives….
We may win big, we may outplay and out pass lesser teams, and we might get on a great roll which should encourage floating supporters to come back…..

However , being beat week in week out , can not be a good advertisement to get folks through the turnstiles…..I reckon we would sell more season tickets for league2 based upon the expectancy alone…( might need clever marketing strategy)

You need to increase the strength of your medication.
Title: Re: Dan Gardner.
Post by: sha66y on October 23, 2021, 01:35:03 pm
Why oh why would a club want to get relegated????
We have a nucleus of players on longer contracts so unless there are relegation clauses will still be on the same money
The overheads of the ground won’t change
What will change is income less home fans certainly less away fans
Income from the EFL will also be reduced
Sorry your argument doesn’t fly

Initially the crowd may be a bit lower, however the psychology of the situation is that we should be deemed as a “ big club”  in league2,
which brings its own positives….
We may win big, we may outplay and out pass lesser teams, and we might get on a great roll which should encourage floating supporters to come back…..

However , being beat week in week out , can not be a good advertisement to get folks through the turnstiles…..I reckon we would sell more season tickets for league2 based upon the expectancy alone…( might need clever marketing strategy)

You need to increase the strength of your medication.

Explain?