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Quote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 05:06:36 pmWe’ve signed three 32+ year olds in two windows and had a deal for another fall through at the last minute. That’s not how to be doing things. We wouldn’t have signed Clayton if we’d got o toole. And we’ve also made some good progressive signings this season in owulu, younger, knoyle,
We’ve signed three 32+ year olds in two windows and had a deal for another fall through at the last minute. That’s not how to be doing things.
I imagine there were lots of comments like this when we signed players like oster and horlock,
Quote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:58:50 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 03:27:55 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:10:12 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get backYou recoup money if you can sell a player, yes.but we are only spending on his wages like anyone else that we would get and wouldn’t recoup any of their wages so don’t get this we won’t recoup any money we are spending on himSo when we sold Marquis and Whiteman for £1m+, we didn't recoup any of our outlay we'd spent on them?[/quoteQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 04:15:17 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:58:50 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 03:27:55 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:10:12 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get backYou recoup money if you can sell a player, yes.but we are only spending on his wages like anyone else that we would get and wouldn’t recoup any of their wages so don’t get this we won’t recoup any money we are spending on himSo when we sold Marquis and Whiteman for £1m+, we didn't recoup any of our outlay we'd spent on them? I don’t think we paid a fee for Marquis did we but yeah we recouped money on whiteman as we paid a fee for him
Quote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 03:27:55 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:10:12 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get backYou recoup money if you can sell a player, yes.but we are only spending on his wages like anyone else that we would get and wouldn’t recoup any of their wages so don’t get this we won’t recoup any money we are spending on him
Quote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:10:12 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get backYou recoup money if you can sell a player, yes.
Quote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get back
Quote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.
We’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.
Quote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:58:50 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 03:27:55 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:10:12 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get backYou recoup money if you can sell a player, yes.but we are only spending on his wages like anyone else that we would get and wouldn’t recoup any of their wages so don’t get this we won’t recoup any money we are spending on himSo when we sold Marquis and Whiteman for £1m+, we didn't recoup any of our outlay we'd spent on them?
Quote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:58:50 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 03:27:55 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:10:12 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get backYou recoup money if you can sell a player, yes.but we are only spending on his wages like anyone else that we would get and wouldn’t recoup any of their wages so don’t get this we won’t recoup any money we are spending on him Were less likely to receive money for Clayton than we would for someone 10 years younger is all he's saying.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 25, 2022, 05:55:39 pmI imagine there were lots of comments like this when we signed players like oster and horlock, Quick, change Horlock for……..anybody!
Quote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 04:15:17 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:58:50 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 03:27:55 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:10:12 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get backYou recoup money if you can sell a player, yes.but we are only spending on his wages like anyone else that we would get and wouldn’t recoup any of their wages so don’t get this we won’t recoup any money we are spending on himSo when we sold Marquis and Whiteman for £1m+, we didn't recoup any of our outlay we'd spent on them?[/quoteQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 04:15:17 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:58:50 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 03:27:55 pmQuote from: donnievic on January 25, 2022, 03:10:12 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.have I missed sumthing here!!!!!!money were not going to get back?????have we paid a fee for him like,sure any wages we spend on players we won’t get backYou recoup money if you can sell a player, yes.but we are only spending on his wages like anyone else that we would get and wouldn’t recoup any of their wages so don’t get this we won’t recoup any money we are spending on himSo when we sold Marquis and Whiteman for £1m+, we didn't recoup any of our outlay we'd spent on them? I don’t think we paid a fee for Marquis did we but yeah we recouped money on whiteman as we paid a fee for himI know we didn’t pay a fee for Marquis. He didn’t play for nothing though did he?
Quote from: drfchound on January 25, 2022, 04:04:49 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:47:24 pmQuote from: dickos1 on January 25, 2022, 12:28:24 pmUsually agree with you gaz but experience was exactly what we needed in this windowWhat is experience?? I think we needed maturity. You don’t have to be 33yo to have that. Let’s be honest, he’s not fully fit but Agard looks like he can’t run and I saw Clayton at Birmingham, he’s the same. They may end up being great players in L2 but this isn’t the way we need to be going. It’s not what intelligent operators do. Obviously depends on what he’s earning, if he’s on £500 a week then it may be a low cost gamble. Why not give him 6 months to see what he has left? I could make you 20 players that would walk to the Keepmoat for a contract in the summer that would be smarter options than Agard and Clayton.There are players at Farley Celtic on £500 a week.I know this for certain.We don't need any more Creche members.
Quote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:47:24 pmQuote from: dickos1 on January 25, 2022, 12:28:24 pmUsually agree with you gaz but experience was exactly what we needed in this windowWhat is experience?? I think we needed maturity. You don’t have to be 33yo to have that. Let’s be honest, he’s not fully fit but Agard looks like he can’t run and I saw Clayton at Birmingham, he’s the same. They may end up being great players in L2 but this isn’t the way we need to be going. It’s not what intelligent operators do. Obviously depends on what he’s earning, if he’s on £500 a week then it may be a low cost gamble. Why not give him 6 months to see what he has left? I could make you 20 players that would walk to the Keepmoat for a contract in the summer that would be smarter options than Agard and Clayton.There are players at Farley Celtic on £500 a week.I know this for certain.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 25, 2022, 12:28:24 pmUsually agree with you gaz but experience was exactly what we needed in this windowWhat is experience?? I think we needed maturity. You don’t have to be 33yo to have that. Let’s be honest, he’s not fully fit but Agard looks like he can’t run and I saw Clayton at Birmingham, he’s the same. They may end up being great players in L2 but this isn’t the way we need to be going. It’s not what intelligent operators do. Obviously depends on what he’s earning, if he’s on £500 a week then it may be a low cost gamble. Why not give him 6 months to see what he has left? I could make you 20 players that would walk to the Keepmoat for a contract in the summer that would be smarter options than Agard and Clayton.
Usually agree with you gaz but experience was exactly what we needed in this window
Quote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 05:06:36 pmWe’ve signed three 32+ year olds in two windows and had a deal for another fall through at the last minute. That’s not how to be doing things. A bit of balance is good though isn't it?Jamie mccombeRob JonesPaul BarnesGareth TaylorNeil sullivanKevin HorlockJust a few examples of experience who did pretty well, could add Gary mcsheffrey to that too.We need a bit more experience in the team just for balance with a lot of youngsters also.Saw a point on Rotherhams midfield. If we had Galbraith, smith and Clayton in there what's our average midfield age?
After seeing some of the embarrassing performances from young lightweight kids this season, being bullied and outfought all over the park by League 1 mesters, I can't believe people are being negative about players in their early 30s being signed.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 25, 2022, 06:27:27 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 05:06:36 pmWe’ve signed three 32+ year olds in two windows and had a deal for another fall through at the last minute. That’s not how to be doing things. A bit of balance is good though isn't it?Jamie mccombeRob JonesPaul BarnesGareth TaylorNeil sullivanKevin HorlockJust a few examples of experience who did pretty well, could add Gary mcsheffrey to that too.We need a bit more experience in the team just for balance with a lot of youngsters also.Saw a point on Rotherhams midfield. If we had Galbraith, smith and Clayton in there what's our average midfield age?Experience is the most over valued commodity in football. That’s a fact. I’m not saying it doesn’t play a part but it’s a cop out for poor coaches or poor recruitment a lot of the time.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 25, 2022, 06:27:27 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 05:06:36 pmWe’ve signed three 32+ year olds in two windows and had a deal for another fall through at the last minute. That’s not how to be doing things. A bit of balance is good though isn't it?Jamie mccombeRob JonesPaul BarnesGareth TaylorNeil sullivanKevin HorlockJust a few examples of experience who did pretty well, could add Gary mcsheffrey to that too.We need a bit more experience in the team just for balance with a lot of youngsters also.Saw a point on Rotherhams midfield. If we had Galbraith, smith and Clayton in there what's our average midfield age?Is Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Bostock and Anderson enough experience in a team? Obviously not all fit at the minute but when they are there’s plenty of years under the belt there. Experience is the most over valued commodity in football. That’s a fact. I’m not saying it doesn’t play a part but it’s a cop out for poor coaches or poor recruitment a lot of the time.