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Title: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 26, 2020, 10:22:52 pm
Just watching this on iPlayer.

Christ I'd forgotten about this. Within most of our lifetimes, a major political figure conspired to have someone murdered. And got away with it.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 26, 2020, 10:28:06 pm
Never much liked Hugh Grant, but he's superb in this.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BobG on August 27, 2020, 01:21:11 pm
Hope you haven't forgotten the conspiracy to have a journalist beaten up for doing his job as well Billy :) Now, which PM was it that did that...? Funny. He was never arrested, never mind charged..... Oh. Of course. It's the same PM as the one that's twice been sacked from his job for lying. Once by his own political party and the other by a national newspaper.

BobG
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 27, 2020, 01:30:02 pm
Aye Bob.

But clearly 40-odd% of the electorate don't care much about that.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: belton rover on August 27, 2020, 01:55:45 pm
As didn’t the (insert % here) electorate, including me, seem to care when they voted for a party leader who seemed happy with his party’s Antisemitism values.

If we only voted for party’s free from scandal, no one would vote.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BobG on August 27, 2020, 03:00:06 pm
The anti Semite election was hardly a general election was it Belton? A very much smaller subset of the population made that choice. When it was tested in a GE, it was rejected. Decisively. So jumping from a point of national interest to one of parochial interest only portrays your values clearly.

Cheers :)

BobG
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 27, 2020, 03:02:43 pm
I personally know several lifelong Labour supporters who refused to vote Labour because of the anti-semitism issue.

I'm not aware of any Tory supporter who chose not to vote Tory because Johnson conspired to have a journalist badly beaten up as a frightner to help  out an old friend.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: belton rover on August 27, 2020, 04:09:23 pm
Didn’t stop you though. Or me.

And I would be very surprised if you move in the same Conservative circles as Labour to suggest that not knowing ‘any Tory supporters who chose not to vote...’ Has any meaning to your argument.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: belton rover on August 27, 2020, 04:17:33 pm
The anti Semite election was hardly a general election was it Belton? A very much smaller subset of the population made that choice. When it was tested in a GE, it was rejected. Decisively. So jumping from a point of national interest to one of parochial interest only portrays your values clearly.

Cheers :)

BobG

I’m really not sure what you mean by that, Bob.
My point was that people voted for a labour party at the last general election despite the cancerous Antisemitism running through the party from the top down.

I can only assume that your ill informed, pre conceived opinion of my values has led you to not read my post very carefully.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BobG on August 27, 2020, 05:06:00 pm
My point is factually accurate. Your point is personal prejudice, dogma and bile Belton

Regards

BobG
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: Crowle Rover on August 27, 2020, 05:20:22 pm
Back to the original point.
I missed the show but read the book.
I was 7 years old in 1976 when the whole scandal kicked off so was aware that Mr Thorpe was in some sort of trouble.
It beggars belief some of the things that went on.
Well worth a read Billy.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 27, 2020, 05:26:11 pm
The anti Semite election was hardly a general election was it Belton? A very much smaller subset of the population made that choice. When it was tested in a GE, it was rejected. Decisively. So jumping from a point of national interest to one of parochial interest only portrays your values clearly.

Cheers :)

BobG

I’m really not sure what you mean by that, Bob.
My point was that people voted for a labour party at the last general election despite the cancerous Antisemitism running through the party from the top down.

I can only assume that your ill informed, pre conceived opinion of my values has led you to not read my post very carefully.

I've just spat coffee all over my keyboard at that one.

Excellent!
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: belton rover on August 27, 2020, 05:26:43 pm
Bob
What a ridiculous person you are.
I don’t remember the last time we ever held a conversation, if we ever have, and yet such venom in your words.

I appreciate you are a fully fledged member of the Billy fan club, but there is no need to be so rude!
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 27, 2020, 05:28:04 pm
Back to the original point.
I missed the show but read the book.
I was 7 years old in 1976 when the whole scandal kicked off so was aware that Mr Thorpe was in some sort of trouble.
It beggars belief some of the things that went on.
Well worth a read Billy.

Cheers Crowle. I'll give it a go. The show is back on iPlayer for a month. I highly recommend it. It's played as a quasi-farce rather than a drama, but still excellent.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 27, 2020, 05:38:27 pm
Didn’t stop you though. Or me.

And I would be very surprised if you move in the same Conservative circles as Labour to suggest that not knowing ‘any Tory supporters who chose not to vote...’ Has any meaning to your argument.

Then you'd be very surprised.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: belton rover on August 27, 2020, 10:00:34 pm
Didn’t stop you though. Or me.

And I would be very surprised if you move in the same Conservative circles as Labour to suggest that not knowing ‘any Tory supporters who chose not to vote...’ Has any meaning to your argument.

Then you'd be very surprised.
I suppose you carry a Tory membership card as well as your Labour one. Just to even things up.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: drfchound on August 27, 2020, 10:26:21 pm
Didn’t stop you though. Or me.

And I would be very surprised if you move in the same Conservative circles as Labour to suggest that not knowing ‘any Tory supporters who chose not to vote...’ Has any meaning to your argument.

Then you'd be very surprised.
I suppose you carry a Tory membership card as well as your Labour one. Just to even things up.





For balance.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: tommy toes on August 28, 2020, 10:32:15 am
Peter Cook's version of the judge's summing up of this case from the Secret Policemans Ball is comedy gold.
It's on YouTube.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 28, 2020, 10:45:30 am
Peter Cook's version of the judge's summing up of this case from the Secret Policemans Ball is comedy gold.
It's on YouTube.

They put a clip of that on the closing credits of AVES.
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: Dr Fundlekrotch on August 28, 2020, 11:19:30 am
Cook had only part-written that when he went on stage and ad-libbed huge parts of it.  This nation's greatest satirist
Title: Re: A Very English Scandal
Post by: Axholme Lion on August 28, 2020, 01:50:49 pm
Back to the original point.
I missed the show but read the book.
I was 7 years old in 1976 when the whole scandal kicked off so was aware that Mr Thorpe was in some sort of trouble.
It beggars belief some of the things that went on.
Well worth a read Billy.

I was ten at the time. I remember asking what it was all about and my mum said that Jeremy Thorpe was a poofter.  :lol: