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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: streathamdave on April 25, 2021, 10:52:37 am
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I'm sorry if this has been posted already and I've missed it but which players are out of contract at the end of the year? Or if it is easier which will still be in contract?
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Everyone except Anderson, bogs,fey and sandwich.
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I'm not absolutely certain, but I think those out of contract are:
Lawlor
Wright
Halliday
James
Amos
Butler
Gomes
Coppinger
Taylor
Lokilo
Seaman
Greaves
Horton
Blythe
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Thanks for the replies. OK maybe I'm missing something but who is sandwich? Bostock and Williams I think both have time left on contracts and recently it was implied that Butler would be back next year even if he isn't manager. Lokilo I thought we had an option on. Out of those listed I'd want to sign Halliday, James, Butler (If he hasn't already), Taylor,Greaves, Horton. Amos seems to have a good attitude and I wouldn't mind him staying but would be unsure. Gomes it depends on contract. Decent season last year once settled and start of this but seems to have slumped recently and wouldn't blame him if he wanted to go back to Spain for family reasons. Lokilo as a squad player rather than a starter I'd be OK with. Impossible to make a judgement re Seaman. Blyth we haven't seen to judge but we need experienced defenders. Lawlor will be gone. I know some people like Wright but not for me. Same with John for me. Loanees gone. I'd love to sign Smith but I can't see it happening. Think James and Greaves would be my priorities. What about Hasani? From what little I've seen I'd probably keep him on. Jones as a 2nd keeper. We need 8-9 new signings +similar number stopping on to add to the few still under contract. Major rebuild. Hopefully we can sign a few players a bit more experienced from top few clubs in League 2/Scotland/League of Ireland/Ones released from promoted teams. Biggest rebuild needed in a lot of years which is saying something as lots of years seem this way.
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Only players who will still be in contract at the end of the season are:
Anderson, John, Bostock, Williams and Bogle.
Apart from Jones and Greaves I wouldn’t offer a contract to any of the others given their contempt to wearing the shirt since February and hopefully DM will come in and take Bogle and Bostock to the Owls and we can pay Williams off.
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We have the option for a further year on Taylor’s contract
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I'm not absolutely certain, but I think those out of contract are:
Lawlor
Wright
Halliday
James
Amos
Butler
Gomes
Coppinger
Taylor
Lokilo
Seaman
Greaves
Horton
Blythe
Just me who rates Lawlor as a League 1 GK and thinks he should be given a new contract. Not too sure why he was sent out on loan to bring the likes of Bursic and Balcombe in!?
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We have the option for a further year on Taylor’s contract
I wouldn't be disappointed if this option wasn't took up. He seems a decent character Taylor but I should imagine he's one of our top earners and I find him really frustrating at times, for all his speed and energy his end product is generally awful.
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Is there a second year option on Seaman's contract?
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Thanks for the replies. OK maybe I'm missing something but who is sandwich? Bostock and Williams I think both have time left on contracts and recently it was implied that Butler would be back next year even if he isn't manager. Lokilo I thought we had an option on. Out of those listed I'd want to sign Halliday, James, Butler (If he hasn't already), Taylor,Greaves, Horton. Amos seems to have a good attitude and I wouldn't mind him staying but would be unsure. Gomes it depends on contract. Decent season last year once settled and start of this but seems to have slumped recently and wouldn't blame him if he wanted to go back to France for family reasons. Lokilo as a squad player rather than a starter I'd be OK with. Impossible to make a judgement re Seaman. Blyth we haven't seen to judge but we need experienced defenders. Lawlor will be gone. I know some people like Wright but not for me. Same with John for me. Loanees gone. I'd love to sign Smith but I can't see it happening. Think James and Greaves would be my priorities. What about Hasani? From what little I've seen I'd probably keep him on. Jones as a 2nd keeper. We need 8-9 new signings +similar number stopping on to add to the few still under contract. Major rebuild. Hopefully we can sign a few players a bit more experienced from top few clubs in League 2/Scotland/League of Ireland/Ones released from promoted teams. Biggest rebuild needed in a lot of years which is saying something as lots of years seem this way.
Gomes is Spanish.
Jones and Hasani are both contracted till next season. Jones was given the promise that he'd be #1 next season, not sure if a new manager will go along with that but he's mostly done well when he's played minus yesterday's goal, which if we keep dropping him he'll never gain form.
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Yes you are right Gomes is Spanish. Will correct. General point about going back to family still stands.
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I’d definitely be keeping Taylor. Yes he can be frustrating but if his end product was better he wouldn’t be playing for us. He’s the only out and out winger we have. Plus we aren’t exactly flush with players.
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It begs the question why have no players signed an extension???? Very strange
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It begs the question why have no players signed an extension???? Very strange
We don’t do forward thinking that’s too easy !!
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It begs the question why have no players signed an extension???? Very strange
Have they not?
Presumably you've asked them all rather than made something up off the top of your head.
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It begs the question why have no players signed an extension???? Very strange
Slags the team of for being rubbish - then wants to re-sign them all!!!
And then he will be the first to moan when they do.
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The Taylor deal is already done, as have 3 or 4 others.
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hopefully DM will come in and take Bogle and Bostock to the Owls and we can pay Williams off.
Why do you want to get shut of bostock?
He's come into a team where he's having to defend and play a 5th centrehalf. I say that because of the amount of times he covers for the backline getting pulled out of position. I feel that he will be a good asset to the team when we get sorted out. He played some great through balls and works for the team when he's allowed. Stop the Bostock bashing give the lad a chance.
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It begs the question why have no players signed an extension???? Very strange
Slags the team of for being rubbish - then wants to re-sign them all!!!
And then he will be the first to moan when they do.
He never said that!
he may have alluded to the idea that the players may not have wanted to commit to playing for Doncaster longer term...
and I think there is a chorus of scribes all of the same opinion that the team is in-fact rubbish...
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The Taylor deal is already done, as have 3 or 4 others.
So a half decent 5 a side team.......
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The Taylor deal is already done, as have 3 or 4 others.
So a half decent 5 a side team.......
I don't see your point. People were asking about Taylor and I've given the answer.
And the 3 or 4 others are in addition to those who still have contracts, we're nowhere near the transfer window yet, and we have months to put a team together so I fail to see how relevant your post is.
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SM, if the deals are done is there a reason they haven’t been announced yet? We’re crying out for some good news so not sure I understand why it would be kept under wraps.
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The Taylor deal is already done, as have 3 or 4 others.
So a half decent 5 a side team.......
I don't see your point. People were asking about Taylor and I've given the answer.
And the 3 or 4 others are in addition to those who still have contracts, we're nowhere near the transfer window yet, and we have months to put a team together so I fail to see how relevant your post is.
You don’t do humour .. like ....5 players = a 5 a side team......I suppose there is no place for humour at the moment .....
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SM, if the deals are done is there a reason they haven’t been announced yet? We’re crying out for some good news so not sure I understand why it would be kept under wraps.
It’s not good news until you know who is accepted new deals... Some of the out of contract lads you would think we might want to part company with.
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Honestly unless the 3-4 others are the younger players (Greaves, Jones Horton etc) i'll be disappointed. Quite happy for them all to go and think any manager looking to join us would feel the same wouldn't they?
Good decision to keep Taylor i think he's a dangerous player in this division so think any new manager would be happy to have him.
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Agree with Taylor signing but we will still have bogle Williams and bostock here, the loan players will be gone and many who are out of contract. Cannot see them being the foundation of a top div one side.
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I genuinely don’t see Bostock being with us next season. If there isn’t a clause allowing him to move in summer if we were still in League One, I suspect we will just both decide better to cancel deal and allow him to move in the summer. He needed to come back to the UK in the January window and we looked a good bet to go up then. We’ve totally collapsed and he will likely have some interest from Championship clubs. His loan at Forest last season was well reviewed, so you can see him going up a level in summer.
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I can see DM coming in for Bostock to right and wrong in his view. I'd be quite happy if our new manager can sign replacements. I'm sure we'd accept a nominal fee.
The fewer players from this season the better for me so we can start a fresh without the baggage of this seasons collapse hanging over them. Even if the players can put it behind them, some of the fans won't as soon as mistakes are made.
It may take a couple of transfer windows to get going again so I'm prepared to give the new manager some time to reshape the squad.
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The Taylor deal is already done, as have 3 or 4 others.
So a half decent 5 a side team.......
I don't see your point. People were asking about Taylor and I've given the answer.
And the 3 or 4 others are in addition to those who still have contracts, we're nowhere near the transfer window yet, and we have months to put a team together so I fail to see how relevant your post is.
You don’t do humour .. like ....5 players = a 5 a side team......I suppose there is no place for humour at the moment .....
I do humour, I just didn't see anything particularly funny.
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SM, if the deals are done is there a reason they haven’t been announced yet? We’re crying out for some good news so not sure I understand why it would be kept under wraps.
Well, it'll be the club choice as to when they make announcements. I'm sure the media team will be scheduling that as we speak. (write/type)
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hopefully DM will come in and take Bogle and Bostock to the Owls and we can pay Williams off.
Why do you want to get shut of bostock?
He's come into a team where he's having to defend and play a 5th centrehalf. I say that because of the amount of times he covers for the backline getting pulled out of position. I feel that he will be a good asset to the team when we get sorted out. He played some great through balls and works for the team when he's allowed. Stop the Bostock bashing give the lad a chance.
I’m entitled to an opinion as much as you, mine is that since DM has left instead of being a leader he’s been spinet and gutless and I’m not apologising for it being different to yours
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SM, if the deals are done is there a reason they haven’t been announced yet? We’re crying out for some good news so not sure I understand why it would be kept under wraps.
I fail to see new contracts to 3 or 4 of this current squad as GOOD news.
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Reece James on a 2 year deal is the only thing that would bring me out of my funk... Even though I think thats the least likely of the 3 or 4
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Theoretically, current form notwithstanding, I think there’s a case to be made for retaining the services of the following out of contract players:
Halliday
Wright
Butler
James
Horton
Greaves
Coppinger (wishful thinking)
Taylor
Fej
I know some of the above are in poor form right now, and others have a lot to prove, but all can contribute towards a solid L1 team / squad.
Confidence in the camp is rock bottom right now and performances have been dire. But that doesn’t mean everyone is useless.
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Theoretically, current form notwithstanding, I think there’s a case to be made for retaining the services of the following out of contract players:
Halliday
Wright
Butler
James
Horton
Greaves
Coppinger (wishful thinking)
Taylor
Fej
I know some of the above are in poor form right now, and others have a lot to prove, but all can contribute towards a solid L1 team / squad.
Confidence in the camp is rock bottom right now and performances have been dire. But that doesn’t mean everyone is useless.
Apart from Copps, Jonathan, none of those would inspire me to hopes of a promotion push.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/latest-on-the-recruitment-of-the-next-manager-of-doncaster-rovers-plus-contract-talks-update-3213482
Bottom of the article
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So
Taylor
Plus three of the younger players.
I’d love Copps to stay for one more campaign.
Pretty sure Halliday has a deal lined up elsewhere so no surprise he didn’t play, especially against Fleetwood. Although this pesky back industry certainly has the medical world flummoxed.
Reece James - would love him to stay but...
The others... do not care.
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I do find it a bit weird that we are weeks away from appointing a new manager and we sign up these 3 or 4 players. Does the new manager agree with these signings?...
Why not wait and let the new man have free reign? It's not like these players are any good....
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Theoretically, current form notwithstanding, I think there’s a case to be made for retaining the services of the following out of contract players:
Halliday
Wright
Butler
James
Horton
Greaves
Coppinger (wishful thinking)
Taylor
Fej
I know some of the above are in poor form right now, and others have a lot to prove, but all can contribute towards a solid L1 team / squad.
Confidence in the camp is rock bottom right now and performances have been dire. But that doesn’t mean everyone is useless.
Fej has another year left.
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Theoretically, current form notwithstanding, I think there’s a case to be made for retaining the services of the following out of contract players:
Halliday
Wright
Butler
James
Horton
Greaves
Coppinger (wishful thinking)
Taylor
Fej
I know some of the above are in poor form right now, and others have a lot to prove, but all can contribute towards a solid L1 team / squad.
Confidence in the camp is rock bottom right now and performances have been dire. But that doesn’t mean everyone is useless.
Apart from Copps, Jonathan, none of those would inspire me to hopes of a promotion push.
If we keep exactly the same back line as this season then we are going nowhere next season. There is no credible scenario where that is a defence to see us promoted.
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Thé shambles that has ensued the departure of DM is sure to cost us the allegiance of most players and the ones we would have sought to keep in normal times will now hang in the balance .From Moore’s predilection for playing James anywhere and everywhere he is likely
to be playing mainly in Sheffield as is Hallyday and Bostock subject to inter club negotiations for JB.
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Thé shambles that has ensued the departure of DM is sure to cost us the allegiance of most players and the ones we would have sought to keep in normal times will now hang in the balance .From Moore’s predilection for playing James anywhere and everywhere he is likely
to be playing mainly in Sheffield as is Hallyday and Bostock subject to inter club negotiations for JB.
Halliday - I don’t think he will go to Wednesday. Somewhere closer to his home.
Bostock would command a fee presumably?
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I do find it a bit weird that we are weeks away from appointing a new manager and we sign up these 3 or 4 players. Does the new manager agree with these signings?...
Why not wait and let the new man have free reign? It's not like these players are any good....
I suspect this will be announcing the easy choices. Young lads and triggering the Taylor one year extension.
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I dont see how it will be the one year on Taylor that is done. The article says a multi year contract for a senior player.
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Thé shambles that has ensued the departure of DM is sure to cost us the allegiance of most players and the ones we would have sought to keep in normal times will now hang in the balance .From Moore’s predilection for playing James anywhere and everywhere he is likely
to be playing mainly in Sheffield as is Hallyday and Bostock subject to inter club negotiations for JB.
Halliday - I don’t think he will go to Wednesday. Somewhere closer to his home.
Bostock would command a fee presumably?
To be fair I'd let Bostock go for free for what I've seen of him. There's a player in there but he hasn't fit her yet.
As for halliday he's from teesside isn't he? We are about the closest team to his home that would take him I'd say.
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Another manager Might find a lot in there with Bostock
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Another manager Might find a lot in there with Bostock
Maybe, but quite a few have tried. I do think there is a good footballer there, but he has shown that he’s not one you want besides you “in the trenches” so to speak.
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A new manager may get the best out of our current players, why not DM had them performing earlier in the season.
There is an over reaction to the ability of these players. They haven’t suddenly become useless.
What has happened is the have lost focus and direction, subsequently confidence has gone completely.
Butts sounded like a man with no answers in his interview after the Fleetwood game.
I feel really sorry he is in this situation but it’s perfectly obvious he is out of his depth in this role.
He should definitely have brought in an experienced assistant to help him.
He has been unable to inspire the players, bring them together or get any semblance of a team pattern way of playing.
We look like 11 players gong out each match that have never even trained together let alone played together.
A team capable of getting 48 points out of 23 games is not lacking ability nor is it luck that can be achieved.
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Another manager Might find a lot in there with Bostock
Maybe, but quite a few have tried. I do think there is a good footballer there, but he has shown that he’s not one you want besides you “in the trenches” so to speak.
He was POTS in Ligue 2 not so long ago. Let's not act like no one's got the best out of him.
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Ligue 2 is not like the 2nd tier in England by a long way
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I can’t see how Horton is getting tarred with the same brush as the spineless gang, he has been thrown in the deep end and acquitted himself really well, probably the one shining light from the end of season meltdown
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Another manager Might find a lot in there with Bostock
Maybe, but quite a few have tried. I do think there is a good footballer there, but he has shown that he’s not one you want besides you “in the trenches” so to speak.
He was POTS in Ligue 2 not so long ago. Let's not act like no one's got the best out of him.
you say that but the Florets fans loved him
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I can’t see how Horton is getting tarred with the same brush as the spineless gang, he has been thrown in the deep end and acquitted himself really well, probably the one shining light from the end of season meltdown
I can’t see how any of the young lads are getting Tarred with the same brush to be truthful
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Ligue 2 is not like the 2nd tier in England by a long way
OK...?
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Another manager Might find a lot in there with Bostock
Maybe, but quite a few have tried. I do think there is a good footballer there, but he has shown that he’s not one you want besides you “in the trenches” so to speak.
He was POTS in Ligue 2 not so long ago. Let's not act like no one's got the best out of him.
you say that but the Florets fans loved him
And many Forest fans thought he did alright in the Championship and wanted him to be offered another contract....
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Thé shambles that has ensued the departure of DM is sure to cost us the allegiance of most players and the ones we would have sought to keep in normal times will now hang in the balance .From Moore’s predilection for playing James anywhere and everywhere he is likely
to be playing mainly in Sheffield as is Hallyday and Bostock subject to inter club negotiations for JB.
Halliday - I don’t think he will go to Wednesday. Somewhere closer to his home.
Bostock would command a fee presumably?
To be fair I'd let Bostock go for free for what I've seen of him. There's a player in there but he hasn't fit her yet.
As for halliday he's from teesside isn't he? We are about the closest team to his home that would take him I'd say.
Is he? Shows what I know. I thought he lived over the pennines?
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Ligue 2 is not like the 2nd tier in England by a long way
OK...?
I know it has nothing to do with the standard of players/performance in the league but the average attendance in Ligue 2 last season was 6774 and most teams played 14 home games before the season stopped
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We as supporters can think what we like about players but at this moment we’ve resigned Taylor and possibly 3/4 youngsters so the others have found our offers not to their liking. Yet we will be hoping to sign another 10+ players who are better