Rovers In the Race For Alfie May

[SydneyRover]

He's still got a few good seasons in him yet barring injury, and good luck to him he's not short of enthusiasm.

[since-1969]

I wonder if we have a sell on clause ?

The irony of irony’s  is we couldn’t afford him !!!

[drfchound]

really

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_May

You do realise that those stats include sub appearances don’t you.
Some of which might have been a few minutes.

[selby]

  I do Hound and I can remember the chances he missed in a number of those games as well, and quite a few from very close range.

[Goole Rover]

  I do Hound and I can remember the chances he missed in a number of those games as well, and quite a few from very close range.

I can remember the miss of the decade at Scunthorpe Brian and it wasn't Alfie.

[Bentley Bullet]

  I do Hound and I can remember the chances he missed in a number of those games as well, and quite a few from very close range.

Yep, I'm surprised Marquis didn't take May under his wing and show him how not to miss from close range! 

[BradwellRover]

Alfie really did seem to care and put a shift in, but in my opinion had plenty of chances and never looked like being a regular goal threat.  I completely got why we released him and I actually wondered if he could really do it in League 2.

Delighted for him that it’s worked out, and good luck to him, but I wouldn’t want him back. The reality is that sometimes it just works at a different club, and I’m not convinced he’ll continue the positive momentum if he moves.

We need to bring in new players, not focus on the past. 

[BradwellRover]

As an aside, and slightly tongue in cheek, am I the only one who thought that Alfie was the fastest looking slow player ever? His legs were a blur of movement, but his pace wasn’t actually that quick. 

[Campsall rover]

92 games including sub appearances is surely enough to say you were given a chance at a club.
The fact is Alfie just wasn’t good enough with either assists or goals scored other than the 4 he got v Chorley who were 6th tier when we played them.

He was a 100% effort player but at Rovers his actual end product was not good.
He has gone on to show that he can score goals at League 1 level with Cheltenham,  so very well done to him. Shows what hard work can achieve.
Sometimes a different club can bring out the best in a player.
That is exactly what happened with Marquis. He did very little until he pulled on the Rovers red and white hooped shirt. Done not much really since he left.
That’s football

It’s no good keep harping on about Alfie May. Letting him go was the right thing at the time.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing isnt it. If we had kept him there is no guarantee he would have done what he has at Cheltenham. Far from it.

Get over him folks.  Look forwards not back.

[Bentley Bullet]

CR,

The point is not about how good Alfie May was when he was with us, it is about his potential that was obvious to those of us with an eye for a good prospect. All the clues were there to be seen not least with his energy, enthusiasm, natural positioning and control.

It's acceptable, if not expected that some supporters will have failed to see his potential, but for the team manager and coaches to miss it is neither acceptable nor expected.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Players can also have a season and everything goes right, then after that nothing.

[Campsall rover]

CR,

The point is not about how good Alfie May was when he was with us, it is about his potential that was obvious to those of us with an eye for a good prospect. All the clues were there to be seen not least with his energy, enthusiasm, natural positioning and control.

It's acceptable, if not expected that some supporters will have failed to see his potential, but for the team manager and coaches to miss it is neither acceptable nor expected.

BB he was not a youngster. He was 26 when he left us.
How long should Rovers have given him to fulfil his potential? The fact is he was given time and he only showed very rare flashes that he might make the grade at League 1 level.
The fact is he produced very few assists and very few goals. He had 92 games, quite a number as sub of course to produce.

If he was 20/21 then you could make a case for giving him another season or maybe 2 but at the age he was it wasn’t justified.
Yes he has come good at his new club and produced a hat full of goals but let’s be honest even you BB could not possibly say with any honesty that you knew he would do what he did this season.
If he had stayed at Rovers he might not have fulfilled his potential. Football is a strange game. Players sometimes develop at a different club.

[Bentley Bullet]

His full potential was oven ready. He just needed a good run in the side, like Marquis got and benefited from. He also needed the chance to play without the pressure of knowing he would be replaced if he missed a sitter, again as Marquis benefited from.

Had he been given a decent run instead of being the first choice scapegoat when things were going wrong there was no reason he wouldn't have developed at Rovers as he has at Cheltenham.

 

[Campsall rover]

His full potential was oven ready. He just needed a good run in the side, like Marquis got and benefited from. He also needed the chance to play without the pressure of knowing he would be replaced if he missed a sitter, again as Marquis benefited from.

Had he been given a decent run instead of being the first choice scapegoat when things were going wrong there was no reason he wouldn't have developed at Rovers as he has at Cheltenham.

First choice scapegoat, sorry I don’t know where that comes from.
95% of Rovers supporters loved him, due to his enthusiasm and work rate.
Fergie and McCann started him in plenty of games. Yes DM used him mostly as a sub. But to say he was made a scapegoat by the managers is not factual.
BB I do think you are letting your admiration of Alfie blinding you from the facts.

I loved Alfie May how could you not and I wish it had turned out to be a success story for him at Rovers.

Any way football is all about opinions. We all have different ones and that helps to make the game so fascinating.

[Bentley Bullet]

Campsall, let's keep this simple. How many full games did May play out of the 92 appearances for Rovers?

[Campsall rover]

Campsall, let's keep this simple. How many full games did May play out of the 92 appearances for Rovers?

I don’t know, do you?
But he had enough opportunities imo, and for all his hard work there was rarely an end product.

Let’s leave it at that BB
As you know most things I agree with you. On this one we have differing opinions. 

[Bentley Bullet]

Yes mate, I do know.

League games:

Season 2016/17: Played 16     Full games 0
Season 2017/18: Played 27     Full games 6
Season 2018/19: Played 36     Full games 2
Season 2019/20: Played 15     Full games 2
Total games         Played 94    Full games 10

[Sammy Chung was King]

He made 76 league appearances and seven goals(league one).seven EFL appearances 6 goals.
16 appearances 3 goals(league two)FA CUP 10 appearances 4 goals. Another season in EFL 5 appearances 3 goals.

[Bentley Bullet]

And your point is?

[Bentley Bullet]

3 YEARS - 10 FULL LEAGUE GAMES!

[Sammy Chung was King]

And your point is?

My point?.

[SydneyRover]

really

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_May

You do realise that those stats include sub appearances don’t you.
Some of which might have been a few minutes.

yes

[Sammy Chung was King]

I think considering he barely started a game his figures were decent, but he isn’t our player. Just have to wipe our mouths and move onto the next one.

[Bentley Bullet]

And your point is?

My point?.

Apologies SCWK. I misunderstood your post. Thought you were disagreeing with my stats. It was getting a bit late!

[drfchound]

really

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_May

You do realise that those stats include sub appearances don’t you.
Some of which might have been a few minutes.

yes

So why did you try to discredit BBs point that Alfie didn’t get enough game time with a link to wiki which showed 92 “appearances”, of which only 10% of which were full games.

[SydneyRover]

really

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_May

You do realise that those stats include sub appearances don’t you.
Some of which might have been a few minutes.

yes

So why did you try to discredit BBs point that Alfie didn’t get enough game time with a link to wiki which showed 92 “appearances”, of which only 10% of which were full games.

I didn't, but you being a w**ker doesn't help aye hound

[drfchound]

really

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_May

You do realise that those stats include sub appearances don’t you.
Some of which might have been a few minutes.

yes

So why did you try to discredit BBs point that Alfie didn’t get enough game time with a link to wiki which showed 92 “appearances”, of which only 10% of which were full games.

I didn't, but you being a w**ker doesn't help aye hound

As always, resort to insults when outed as being in the wrong.
Standard Syd procedure.

[SydneyRover]

It's because you are being a silly billy hound, the forum shitster. I assumed that bb could speak for himself, you appear to know better.

[Campsall rover]

3 YEARS - 10 FULL LEAGUE GAMES!

BB are those 10 full games also the only starts he made in games? I doubt that very much.
How many starts he made as that is a fairer reflection imo.
How many matches did he start a game. Do you know BB?
If he got subbed then maybe that was because he was ineffective or a tactical substitution.

[Campsall rover]

Bostock for example didn’t play many full games. Started a good number but got subbed in high percentage.
There are many players that don’t play a full game BB

You can only go by starting games as a fair reflection of appearances.