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A couple of typhoon euro fighters flew low over our house yesterday. Bloody loud, they were going a fair old lick. Not a usual occurance. I wonder if there were Russians around the channel or something.
The ability of EU-haters to hold two totally contradictory stances at the same time and not even realise how stupid that makes them sound never ceases to amaze me.1) The EU wants a common foreign policy and an EU army and that is unacceptable.2) The EU doesn't have a common foreign policy or the ability to use armed force and that shows how f**king useless it is.This is what years of having your ideas formed by Mike Graham's warm diarrhea does.
Should the allied forces want to kick back against any invasion, they would not need any troops on the ground. The soviet armoured vehicles could be taken out using nothing more than drone strikes. Of which the allied forces have the upper hand on the Russians. They may have alot of tanks, but we have a lot of drones collectively. And bombs to strap to them. It will be interesting to see if there is an invasion, if selective Russian targets are taken out on Ukraine soil by allies of Ukraine. There is a difference between defending Ukraine on their own soil, and attacking Russia on its.The Russians have been playing a similar game in Syria for a long long time.
NATO has zero intention of attacking Russia, and nothing to gain but Armageddon by doing so.What NATO has done, is to provide a shield around countries that have regularly been pulverised by Russia. NATO has done that at the request of those countries.Let's not allow our resident fascists and Putin arse-lickers to muddy the waters here. There is only ONE side threatening aggression in this whole issue. And it ain't NATO. Putin wants to exert Russia's authority over states that have never wanted that and do not now want that. Support that if you like, but don't dress it up as something more noble than it is. It is the bully wanting to exert his authority to bully.
Quote from: normal rules on February 14, 2022, 01:28:49 pmShould the allied forces want to kick back against any invasion, they would not need any troops on the ground. The soviet armoured vehicles could be taken out using nothing more than drone strikes. Of which the allied forces have the upper hand on the Russians. They may have alot of tanks, but we have a lot of drones collectively. And bombs to strap to them. It will be interesting to see if there is an invasion, if selective Russian targets are taken out on Ukraine soil by allies of Ukraine. There is a difference between defending Ukraine on their own soil, and attacking Russia on its.The Russians have been playing a similar game in Syria for a long long time. I wouldn't want to be in the vicinity of Cheltenham when that happens.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 14, 2022, 01:04:34 pmNATO has zero intention of attacking Russia, and nothing to gain but Armageddon by doing so.What NATO has done, is to provide a shield around countries that have regularly been pulverised by Russia. NATO has done that at the request of those countries.Let's not allow our resident fascists and Putin arse-lickers to muddy the waters here. There is only ONE side threatening aggression in this whole issue. And it ain't NATO. Putin wants to exert Russia's authority over states that have never wanted that and do not now want that. Support that if you like, but don't dress it up as something more noble than it is. It is the bully wanting to exert his authority to bully.What a load of horse shit.
Quote from: normal rules on February 14, 2022, 01:28:49 pmShould the allied forces want to kick back against any invasion, they would not need any troops on the ground. The soviet armoured vehicles could be taken out using nothing more than drone strikes. Of which the allied forces have the upper hand on the Russians. They may have alot of tanks, but we have a lot of drones collectively. And bombs to strap to them. It will be interesting to see if there is an invasion, if selective Russian targets are taken out on Ukraine soil by allies of Ukraine. There is a difference between defending Ukraine on their own soil, and attacking Russia on its.The Russians have been playing a similar game in Syria for a long long time. Russia still occupies the Ukranian territory it invaded 8 years ago. The military response to any similar invasion will be exactly the same now as it was then.And I am not going to hold my breath to Johnson imposing the sanctions on the Tories Russian donors that the rest of the NATO allies want.
Quote from: Sprotyrover on February 14, 2022, 02:26:01 pmQuote from: normal rules on February 14, 2022, 01:28:49 pmShould the allied forces want to kick back against any invasion, they would not need any troops on the ground. The soviet armoured vehicles could be taken out using nothing more than drone strikes. Of which the allied forces have the upper hand on the Russians. They may have alot of tanks, but we have a lot of drones collectively. And bombs to strap to them. It will be interesting to see if there is an invasion, if selective Russian targets are taken out on Ukraine soil by allies of Ukraine. There is a difference between defending Ukraine on their own soil, and attacking Russia on its.The Russians have been playing a similar game in Syria for a long long time. I wouldn't want to be in the vicinity of Cheltenham when that happens.Or raf waddington.
Quote from: normal rules on February 14, 2022, 03:16:05 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on February 14, 2022, 02:26:01 pmQuote from: normal rules on February 14, 2022, 01:28:49 pmShould the allied forces want to kick back against any invasion, they would not need any troops on the ground. The soviet armoured vehicles could be taken out using nothing more than drone strikes. Of which the allied forces have the upper hand on the Russians. They may have alot of tanks, but we have a lot of drones collectively. And bombs to strap to them. It will be interesting to see if there is an invasion, if selective Russian targets are taken out on Ukraine soil by allies of Ukraine. There is a difference between defending Ukraine on their own soil, and attacking Russia on its.The Russians have been playing a similar game in Syria for a long long time. I wouldn't want to be in the vicinity of Cheltenham when that happens.Or raf waddington. RAF Waddington is where most of the RAF intel assets are based, AWACS and the like.I thought RAF Waddington had closed down?Or am I confusing it with RAF Scampton?
Quote from: River Don on February 14, 2022, 10:48:49 amA couple of typhoon euro fighters flew low over our house yesterday. Bloody loud, they were going a fair old lick. Not a usual occurance. I wonder if there were Russians around the channel or something. Are you sure they were RAF? It was Sunday yesterday after all!
Quote from: glosterred on February 14, 2022, 10:52:05 amQuote from: River Don on February 14, 2022, 10:48:49 amA couple of typhoon euro fighters flew low over our house yesterday. Bloody loud, they were going a fair old lick. Not a usual occurance. I wonder if there were Russians around the channel or something. Are you sure they were RAF? It was Sunday yesterday after all!What other country could they have been from though?
Quote from: normal rules on February 14, 2022, 03:16:05 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on February 14, 2022, 02:26:01 pmQuote from: normal rules on February 14, 2022, 01:28:49 pmShould the allied forces want to kick back against any invasion, they would not need any troops on the ground. The soviet armoured vehicles could be taken out using nothing more than drone strikes. Of which the allied forces have the upper hand on the Russians. They may have alot of tanks, but we have a lot of drones collectively. And bombs to strap to them. It will be interesting to see if there is an invasion, if selective Russian targets are taken out on Ukraine soil by allies of Ukraine. There is a difference between defending Ukraine on their own soil, and attacking Russia on its.The Russians have been playing a similar game in Syria for a long long time. I wouldn't want to be in the vicinity of Cheltenham when that happens.Or raf waddington. I thought RAF Waddington had closed down?Or am I confusing it with RAF Scampton?
Interesting. Russia is pulling troops away from the border. Looks like a very sensible win for Putin.1) The West has made it clear it would t fight for Ukraine.2) The West has made is clear it BELIEVED Putin would go to war.3) It's clear that Ukraine will now not be joining NATO.4) Not a shot fired.Putin strengthened. West weakened. The real concern comes if he now tries this in the Baltic States.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 15, 2022, 10:18:48 amInteresting. Russia is pulling troops away from the border. Looks like a very sensible win for Putin.1) The West has made it clear it would t fight for Ukraine.2) The West has made is clear it BELIEVED Putin would go to war.3) It's clear that Ukraine will now not be joining NATO.4) Not a shot fired.Putin strengthened. West weakened. The real concern comes if he now tries this in the Baltic States. Double bluff?
Confirmed. Scampton is finished. RAF Waddington is the major uk base for Unmanned Systems though. They have a brand new Electronic Warefare facility there. Well, it’s been there a few years actually.13 Sqn RAF are based there (ex tornado sqn) Which is A Reaper Drone unit now.Most uk drone ops in Afghan were run from there. Or 39 sqn RAF which is based in the Nevada desert just a few clicks north of Vegas. A detachment with USAF. By the end of this year, the Red Arrows will be rehoused at Waddington too.