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A sobering video on YouTube entitled “Earth at 2° hotter will be horrific. Now here’s what 4° will look like. | David Wallace-Wells”Interesting reference within it to the destabilisation of politics in Europe relating to refugees and migration from places like Syria. The author of the video suggests climate change would force 100’s of millions if not more people to vacate equatorial regions as they would simply become too hot to live in. He cites brexit being a by product of recent migration ( his words not mine). And claims that migration could be exponentially worse if the earth climate continues to heat up only by a few degrees.And we may see this as soon as 2050.
Well the leader of the free world is on board.....
Quote from: Metalmicky on August 12, 2021, 03:52:07 pmWell the leader of the free world is on board.....This goes to the heart of the dilemma cheap oil means economic growth, expensive oil is still a massive drag on economic growth.For politicians the answer is always go for growth.
I see Sicily has recorded Europe’s highest ever temp of 48.8 c. Smashing the previous record set in Athens in 1977. I can’t imagine what this must be like. I’ve been in Southern Spain with Air temps of 40 c when it’s uncomfortable to breathe in air that warm. Another 9 degrees on top must be pretty rough.
Quote from: normal rules on August 12, 2021, 04:56:04 pmI see Sicily has recorded Europe’s highest ever temp of 48.8 c. Smashing the previous record set in Athens in 1977. I can’t imagine what this must be like. I’ve been in Southern Spain with Air temps of 40 c when it’s uncomfortable to breathe in air that warm. Another 9 degrees on top must be pretty rough. High temperatures in the Saudi lowlands ( Riyadh) are around 48C during the long summer, however in the high ground ( Taif) it’s about 41C ….104-106f but seems a lot cooler because of the altitude…Perhaps the Muslim world should start looking after there brothers and sisters and not just watch them migrate towards the infidels in the west….
Quote from: River Don on August 12, 2021, 06:26:10 pmQuote from: Metalmicky on August 12, 2021, 03:52:07 pmWell the leader of the free world is on board.....This goes to the heart of the dilemma cheap oil means economic growth, expensive oil is still a massive drag on economic growth.For politicians the answer is always go for growth.Would that be all politicians RD.
Quote from: drfchound on August 12, 2021, 06:46:16 pmQuote from: River Don on August 12, 2021, 06:26:10 pmQuote from: Metalmicky on August 12, 2021, 03:52:07 pmWell the leader of the free world is on board.....This goes to the heart of the dilemma cheap oil means economic growth, expensive oil is still a massive drag on economic growth.For politicians the answer is always go for growth.Would that be all politicians RD.I can't think of any politicians who don't target growth.
Quote from: River Don on August 12, 2021, 07:38:42 pmQuote from: drfchound on August 12, 2021, 06:46:16 pmQuote from: River Don on August 12, 2021, 06:26:10 pmQuote from: Metalmicky on August 12, 2021, 03:52:07 pmWell the leader of the free world is on board.....This goes to the heart of the dilemma cheap oil means economic growth, expensive oil is still a massive drag on economic growth.For politicians the answer is always go for growth.Would that be all politicians RD.I can't think of any politicians who don't target growth.Some posters on here would certainly disagree with that mate.
Well,it looks like heat, no food, no clean water or sanitation and a few bombs chucked about doesn't stop them breading.
RD.A word pal. Hound, for some reason, is having one of his "Who? Me?" attacks and having a pop at me. You are wasting your breath.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 12, 2021, 10:16:20 pmRD.A word pal. Hound, for some reason, is having one of his "Who? Me?" attacks and having a pop at me. You are wasting your breath.Rubbish BST and you know it.I have only, in your words, havd a pop at you, because of your totally abhorrent comment about drug dealing being a minor crime.My comment on this thread includes numerous posters who might argue to suggest that those nasty Tory politicians might be more interested in themselves rather than growth.It isn’t all about you.
RD.A word pal. Hound, for some reason, is having one of his "Who? Me?" attacks and having a pop at me. You are wasting your breath.
YesAnywayAccording to this estimate we have just four years left to act.https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/12/greenhouse-gas-emissions-must-peak-within-4-years-says-leaked-un-reportThis at a time when apparently Bidens government is urging Saudis to release a load of cheap oil on to the market.
I see you've managed to con one of your disciples into believing your attempt at backtracking on your absurd comment already! Strange though that your claims of your statement being misrepresented in context won't disgust you enough to show empathy towards any Tory MP's whose statements you will misrepresent in the context in future.
Yes but in the specific case I'm referring to, we are not talking about an offence anywhere near the top end of that scale. Which is why the lad was given a 15 month stretch, of which he served 7 months.So the question remains. Do YOU think it is disproportionate in that case (given that the lad had been in the UK since he was a bairn, given that this was his one and only offence, given that he committed it when he was 17, given that he'd kept his nose clean for several years after getting out of nick) to try to deport him? Even before you get the point that Patel was breaking her own law in deporting him, and was only stopped from doing so because of pro bono work by lawyers.Do YOU think that is wrong. If you DO, what the f**k are you arguing about. If you don't you need to spend a bit of time examining your conscience.
Tell me more. What is this lads name and when was he deported?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 13, 2021, 04:23:12 pmYes but in the specific case I'm referring to, we are not talking about an offence anywhere near the top end of that scale. Which is why the lad was given a 15 month stretch, of which he served 7 months.So the question remains. Do YOU think it is disproportionate in that case (given that the lad had been in the UK since he was a bairn, given that this was his one and only offence, given that he committed it when he was 17, given that he'd kept his nose clean for several years after getting out of nick) to try to deport him? Even before you get the point that Patel was breaking her own law in deporting him, and was only stopped from doing so because of pro bono work by lawyers.Do YOU think that is wrong. If you DO, what the f**k are you arguing about. If you don't you need to spend a bit of time examining your conscience.You are doing what you do best BST, changing the narrative to suit your case.In your original post about this you said that SOME of the people due to be deported were for crimes as little as drug dealing.You have now changed that to one individual person in an attempt turn the argument round.No surprise there then.
Quote from: drfchound on August 13, 2021, 05:44:27 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 13, 2021, 04:23:12 pmYes but in the specific case I'm referring to, we are not talking about an offence anywhere near the top end of that scale. Which is why the lad was given a 15 month stretch, of which he served 7 months.So the question remains. Do YOU think it is disproportionate in that case (given that the lad had been in the UK since he was a bairn, given that this was his one and only offence, given that he committed it when he was 17, given that he'd kept his nose clean for several years after getting out of nick) to try to deport him? Even before you get the point that Patel was breaking her own law in deporting him, and was only stopped from doing so because of pro bono work by lawyers.Do YOU think that is wrong. If you DO, what the f**k are you arguing about. If you don't you need to spend a bit of time examining your conscience.You are doing what you do best BST, changing the narrative to suit your case.In your original post about this you said that SOME of the people due to be deported were for crimes as little as drug dealing.You have now changed that to one individual person in an attempt turn the argument round.No surprise there then.HoundI tell you what, how about you stop asking me to wipe your arse, and go an look up some of the information yourself.There are PLENTY of examples of people being arrested for deportation after conviction for drug dealing. Tajay Thompson's case is the most striking, given that he came to the UK as a kid, committed the crime at 17 and kept his nose clean for 4 years after that until Patel decided that she wanted him out. You don't seem to give a f**k about that so I'm not really sure what else I can do to persuade you. Perhaps you can step down from your snide insinuations of bad faith in what I'm posting (which you usually drag up at some point) and go and look up the information yourself. And then come back and tell us what YOU think, eh?