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Quote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan. The strategy is set by the Manager, but of course that then has to be approved by the wider board. And no doubt at interview stage the board and Manager reach an agreed position on the way forward, which will be amended as circumstances dictate.And so far this close season circumstances have forced the hand to an extent, not totally of course, but certainly had an impact. We've actually got one more loan player than was originally envisaged for example.
Quote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.
Quote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...
Quote from: jmt23 on August 16, 2019, 12:43:19 pmI’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.I am imagining: Ennis. Sterling Sadlier May. Copps. TaylorThe pace and skill should be frightening to most teamsso with a back four in there you’ll not bother with Whiteman of Sheif?
I’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.I am imagining: Ennis. Sterling Sadlier May. Copps. TaylorThe pace and skill should be frightening to most teams
Quote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:24:38 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:19:10 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?Answering my question with a question? Are you a politician? Again, do you honestly believe our Board doesn’t have a long term plan??The evidence suggests they don't.
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:19:10 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?Answering my question with a question? Are you a politician? Again, do you honestly believe our Board doesn’t have a long term plan??
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?
Comments from my Sunderland season ticket work colleague- “He was ok. Didn’t really get a chance. He is quite fast and powerful. Poor first touch. Not as good as Marquis, or his brother Raheem. Given a run he might be a handful“
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.More utter w@nk
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.
Quote from: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:36:39 pmI’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly. Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:42:20 pmQuote from: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:36:39 pmI’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly. Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.Substitute long for medium then, as there is still the same conflict.
Quote from: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:47:12 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:42:20 pmQuote from: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:36:39 pmI’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly. Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.Substitute long for medium then, as there is still the same conflict. Any good business will have long, medium, and short-term plans all operating in conjunction at the same time without any conflict at all. I'm not sure what conflict you mean?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:57:05 pmQuote from: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:47:12 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:42:20 pmQuote from: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:36:39 pmI’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly. Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.Substitute long for medium then, as there is still the same conflict. Any good business will have long, medium, and short-term plans all operating in conjunction at the same time without any conflict at all. I'm not sure what conflict you mean?The conflict of having somebody contracted to deliver immediate term success in charge of developing the medium / long term strategy. The two may be at odds.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan? the top man isn't a football fan it's not his bag at all
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?It is going to happen, isn’t it?
Quote from: Filo on August 16, 2019, 12:53:03 pmQuote from: jmt23 on August 16, 2019, 12:43:19 pmIm looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.I am imagining: Ennis. Sterling Sadlier May. Copps. TaylorThe pace and skill should be frightening to most teamsso with a back four in there youll not bother with Whiteman of Sheif?If we play with a front 6 as above its going to be interesting We may score 4/5 but i guarantee we will concede 6/7
Quote from: jmt23 on August 16, 2019, 12:43:19 pmIm looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.I am imagining: Ennis. Sterling Sadlier May. Copps. TaylorThe pace and skill should be frightening to most teamsso with a back four in there youll not bother with Whiteman of Sheif?
Im looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.I am imagining: Ennis. Sterling Sadlier May. Copps. TaylorThe pace and skill should be frightening to most teams
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?It isn't going to happen, is it?
Quote from: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 02:24:10 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.More utter w@nk from one of the top w@nkers in here. Feck offWe've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.More utter w@nk from one of the top w@nkers in here. Feck off
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 02:32:07 pmQuote from: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 02:24:10 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.More utter w@nkWe've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.Well, you’re one of those people who just complains all the time. Nothing is ever good enough. Always negative. You’re pointless and you just make yourself look stupid.
Quote from: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 02:24:10 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.More utter w@nkWe've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.
Quote from: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 04:04:28 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 02:32:07 pmQuote from: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 02:24:10 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.More utter w@nkWe've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.Well, you’re one of those people who just complains all the time. Nothing is ever good enough. Always negative. You’re pointless and you just make yourself look stupid.So you resort to foul and abusive language? Your mam must be proud.
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 04:06:24 pmQuote from: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 04:04:28 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 02:32:07 pmQuote from: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 02:24:10 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.More utter w@nkWe've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.Well, you’re one of those people who just complains all the time. Nothing is ever good enough. Always negative. You’re pointless and you just make yourself look stupid.So you resort to foul and abusive language? Your mam must be proud.Awwww. Bless.