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Quote from: bobjimwilly on April 11, 2019, 11:18:41 pmI would take a guess the majority of Brexit voters voted that way because of the leave campaign and the actual lies they were told. The politicians in the Leave camp also stated we would get a great deal with the EU, and from recollection none of them endorsed leaving on WTO terms. So when Brexit votes say, "but we voted to leave regardless" that's no strictly true now, is it.No but let's not let facts get in the way of leave voters points.
I would take a guess the majority of Brexit voters voted that way because of the leave campaign and the actual lies they were told. The politicians in the Leave camp also stated we would get a great deal with the EU, and from recollection none of them endorsed leaving on WTO terms. So when Brexit votes say, "but we voted to leave regardless" that's no strictly true now, is it.
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 11, 2019, 03:12:03 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 10, 2019, 10:23:13 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 06:18:19 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 06:05:43 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 05:10:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 04:42:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 04:36:13 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 09, 2019, 10:26:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.Don't worry about me old lad, you just get on with what you're best at, kissing BST's arse.Guess the author:QuoteIf you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.So you don't think I should respond to someone trying to take the p*ss out of my age, something that a few of you on here are quite smart at doing?If someone attacks me, I attack back.Spoken like a true hypocrite."Thick", "stupid", "can't write their own name", "pensioners with zimmer frames", "old white gammon", "soon be having cardiac arrests", "will be dead by now", "coffin dodgers".Just a few of the many insults hurled at Brexit voters on this forum and many other forums over the last 2 years; and you call me abusive and hypocritical?White gammon? Where did you pull that one from? Proper snowflake!I don't like telling tales out of school mate, but it was Sydney Rover.Incorrect, and for the record I wrote 'old white gammon'
Quote from: Iberian Red on April 10, 2019, 10:23:13 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 06:18:19 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 06:05:43 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 05:10:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 04:42:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 04:36:13 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 09, 2019, 10:26:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.Don't worry about me old lad, you just get on with what you're best at, kissing BST's arse.Guess the author:QuoteIf you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.So you don't think I should respond to someone trying to take the p*ss out of my age, something that a few of you on here are quite smart at doing?If someone attacks me, I attack back.Spoken like a true hypocrite."Thick", "stupid", "can't write their own name", "pensioners with zimmer frames", "old white gammon", "soon be having cardiac arrests", "will be dead by now", "coffin dodgers".Just a few of the many insults hurled at Brexit voters on this forum and many other forums over the last 2 years; and you call me abusive and hypocritical?White gammon? Where did you pull that one from? Proper snowflake!I don't like telling tales out of school mate, but it was Sydney Rover.
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 06:18:19 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 06:05:43 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 05:10:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 04:42:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 04:36:13 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 09, 2019, 10:26:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.Don't worry about me old lad, you just get on with what you're best at, kissing BST's arse.Guess the author:QuoteIf you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.So you don't think I should respond to someone trying to take the p*ss out of my age, something that a few of you on here are quite smart at doing?If someone attacks me, I attack back.Spoken like a true hypocrite."Thick", "stupid", "can't write their own name", "pensioners with zimmer frames", "old white gammon", "soon be having cardiac arrests", "will be dead by now", "coffin dodgers".Just a few of the many insults hurled at Brexit voters on this forum and many other forums over the last 2 years; and you call me abusive and hypocritical?White gammon? Where did you pull that one from? Proper snowflake!
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 06:05:43 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 05:10:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 04:42:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 04:36:13 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 09, 2019, 10:26:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.Don't worry about me old lad, you just get on with what you're best at, kissing BST's arse.Guess the author:QuoteIf you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.So you don't think I should respond to someone trying to take the p*ss out of my age, something that a few of you on here are quite smart at doing?If someone attacks me, I attack back.Spoken like a true hypocrite."Thick", "stupid", "can't write their own name", "pensioners with zimmer frames", "old white gammon", "soon be having cardiac arrests", "will be dead by now", "coffin dodgers".Just a few of the many insults hurled at Brexit voters on this forum and many other forums over the last 2 years; and you call me abusive and hypocritical?
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 05:10:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 04:42:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 04:36:13 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 09, 2019, 10:26:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.Don't worry about me old lad, you just get on with what you're best at, kissing BST's arse.Guess the author:QuoteIf you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.So you don't think I should respond to someone trying to take the p*ss out of my age, something that a few of you on here are quite smart at doing?If someone attacks me, I attack back.Spoken like a true hypocrite.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 10, 2019, 04:42:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 04:36:13 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 09, 2019, 10:26:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.Don't worry about me old lad, you just get on with what you're best at, kissing BST's arse.Guess the author:QuoteIf you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.So you don't think I should respond to someone trying to take the p*ss out of my age, something that a few of you on here are quite smart at doing?If someone attacks me, I attack back.
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 10, 2019, 04:36:13 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 09, 2019, 10:26:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.Don't worry about me old lad, you just get on with what you're best at, kissing BST's arse.Guess the author:QuoteIf you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.
Quote from: Iberian Red on April 09, 2019, 10:26:55 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.Don't worry about me old lad, you just get on with what you're best at, kissing BST's arse.
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 09:12:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.Dont worry fella, that will be an age thing.
Quote from: Iberian Red on April 04, 2019, 08:42:18 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.Oh, I'd forgotten all about you, Iberian Red.
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 04, 2019, 03:16:59 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.There's a touch of hypocrisy in that post.
Quote from: SydneyRover on April 04, 2019, 12:37:07 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.
Quote from: bobjimwilly on April 04, 2019, 12:21:40 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?Just a guess here bj but as the majority of brexiteers seem to be old white gammon most of em may be in cardiac arrest over dealing with JC and No-deal kicked into touch.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on April 04, 2019, 12:17:39 pmYeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.How long does the Brexit referendum result stay relevant? Considering what we know now about what can actually be agreed, the consequences of no deal, how many brexiteers have died since 2016 and how many more remain votes have come of age, the fact all polls show remain would now win and the fact MP's are changing their minds almost daily about Brexit?
Yeah, like you lot keep beefing about it was only 52% of the poll who voted for leave but are happy enough with a single vote win in parliament.
If you can't come on this forum without making abusive comments like that, then I suggest you just leave the forum, take your bigoted, biased opinions with you, and don't f*cking come back.
TRB did you see John McDonnell on Peston, you might wish to re-evalute your reading of that tweet?https://www.itv.com/news/2019-04-11/why-labour-looks-set-to-become-the-referendum-party/
Corbyn's view of where they are: 'it is a challenge to negotiate with a Government that’s collapsing – when you can’t be sure if commitments made by the Prime Minister will survive the week and when Cabinet collective responsibility has given way to collective irresponsibility, with ministers contradicting each other on the airwaves.'https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-insists-theresa-may-must-compromise-on-brexit-red-lines_uk_5cb202a7e4b098b9a2d453c5?utm_hp_ref=uk-homepageIt's going nowhere slowly isn't it?If you remember when she asked Corbyn to meet her for talks May also said that if they couldn't come up with a joint deal (ie she couldn't persuade Corbyn how good her deal really was and he had just been reading it wrong) then they should come up with a series of ideas for discussion as indicative votes. So that should come first before MV3.
Have you seen this Sydney? https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/tory-mps-are-freaking-out-in-the-tea-rooms-about-what-theJust a small flavour of the article here to show how difficult 'negotiating' with Theresa May might be on a lack of trust basis:there is anger at what is perceived at May’s ongoing dishonesty with Tory MPs and the general public...“She told us she would not call an election. She called an election. She said no British prime minister could ever agree to a Northern Ireland-only backstop. She agreed to a Northern Ireland-only backstop.“She told us no deal was better than a bad deal. She would rather do anything but no deal. She told us she had secured legally binding changes to the backstop. Her attorney general confirmed the legal risk was unchanged.“She told us she would never join a customs union. She told Labour her deal is a customs union in all but name. She told us hundreds of times we would leave on March 29. She stopped us leaving on March 29.“She told us she could was not prepared to delay Brexit beyond June 30. She agreed a delay to October. She said we could not hold European elections. She moved the day of poll order for the European elections.“I am sorry to say it, but the simple truth is we cannot trust a word she says.”And that's from one of her own MP's!!
TRBI keep banging on about this but it doesn't seem.to be sinking in.It is not about Europe! It's about taking over the Tory party and moving the polical agenda to the Right. See it through that lens and EVERYTHING that the ERG has done makes perfect sense.
TRBBut they have the Tea Party in America as an example. The caused havoc in the Republican party and opened the door for a venal, amoral, traitorous criminal to get to the White House. So anything is possible.And, of course, if we continue to allow a combination of Big Money, right wing politicians and social media manipulators to screw with our minds in elections...
Sweet God up a-f**king-bove. We're in an era of political lightweights. Raab is not even a featherweight. I'm fascinated TRB. What makes you see him as PM material?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 18, 2019, 11:19:16 pmSweet God up a-f**king-bove. We're in an era of political lightweights. Raab is not even a featherweight. I'm fascinated TRB. What makes you see him as PM material?He's no heavyweight, but he's a Brexiteer and is telegenic. He also doesn't carry around the sort of baggage that Johnson and Gove do. Those three will throw their hats in the ring when the contest comes, but I expect Raab to be last man standing, simply because he's not the other two.He'll go up against Jeremy Hunt, who ought to win because he's more experienced and is actually a smart politician (please ignore his views, I'm talking about political nous). However the electorate (Tory Party members) will never forgive him for (a) being a Cameroon and (b) voting Remain. Raab will be next Tory leader. I had previously thought Javid would be, but I understand he has little support amongst MPs or in the National party. Whether Raab becomes PM or Leader of the Opposition probably depends on the timing of May's departure. If she's removed before the end of June, PM. Otherwise, LoTO.
Christ help us if a man who didn't realise the significance of the Calais crossing gets the keys to No. 10.