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Iv mentioned it before, but the BBC Humberside reporter Burnsy is a complete shithouse 😂😂😂. Destroys Grant here...https://twitter.com/humbersidesport/status/1282050760256225282?s=21
Well Struber our HC looked a beaten man during the second half today .Body language was shocking , never seen that so much on display in all the years I've followed them .Generally even deep down inside when they know the games up they at least try and present a positive outlook .I think we've got a quitter here , I reckon he'll walk when the final nail goes in our coffin .Not bothered if it does to tell the truth .Absolutely dreading going to Elland Road on Thursday night .We could get a real going over by that lot and its on bloody Sky at that .We may get one more point out of the last three games but I can't see us getting anymore than that in all honesty and it won't be enough .
I enjoyed every minute of it!Grass isn’t greener - isn’t that what Grant told Tommy Rowe when he saw fit to get rid? Leaves a lot to be desired, does Mr McCann. Yes, he had us playing, there’s no doubt, but he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. And, has anyone noticed Wilks lately, he looks about a stone overweight, or maybe he doesn’t suit the kit? His arrogance got in the way of him being a half decent manager, imho, and his modus operandi on leaving us meant he went way down in my estimation. If there’s been any fresh air, it’s been the appointment of Darren Moore, who has more integrity in his little toenail than McCan’t will ever have.Rant over.
They are a club that have had their day in the sun, are run by a poor owner who only ever saw them as a cash cow and not a football club, and a manager who is probably a one trick pony without the players and the finances to get the players he needs. Don't forget it was us them or Brighton who were destined for oblivion at one time, so all have done well to rise up again, but of the three I feer at the moment they are the one that could drop back to that level again, especially if the owner remains at the club. He could pull the plug any time. I live in a village that is central (Pollington) that is more or less central to Leeds, Doncaster, Hull, York etc. the only club I do not know one supporter of is Hull City.
Quote from: Alan Southstand on July 12, 2020, 09:37:56 amI enjoyed every minute of it!Grass isn’t greener - isn’t that what Grant told Tommy Rowe when he saw fit to get rid? Leaves a lot to be desired, does Mr McCann. Yes, he had us playing, there’s no doubt, but he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. And, has anyone noticed Wilks lately, he looks about a stone overweight, or maybe he doesn’t suit the kit? His arrogance got in the way of him being a half decent manager, imho, and his modus operandi on leaving us meant he went way down in my estimation. If there’s been any fresh air, it’s been the appointment of Darren Moore, who has more integrity in his little toenail than McCan’t will ever have.Rant over.Harsh to say he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. I was one of many that was critical of those inexperienced loan signings, and I was wrong. I was angry with and at McCann when he left us, but as time passes you have to look at it rationally. He’d had his budget cut here, he’d taken us probably as far as anyone could have in the circumstances, Hull offered a wildcard shot at the Championship. Up until January, when he was forced to sell Bowen and Grosicki, he was doing a good job there. Last season gave us some of the most exciting football and great days out in all my years supporting the club. I am grateful to McCann for that and also disappointed he didn’t continue into this season. I’m also delighted with Darren Moore, who I agree shows integrity in everything he does, and I feel he’s the right man for the job. It’s not a criticism of Moore to say I still miss some of the football we played under McCann. We were a ruthless team and really exciting to watch. Moore’s team is different, as are the players at his disposal. I’m confident he’ll continue to be a really good manager for us.
Quote from: Jonathan on July 12, 2020, 10:20:01 amQuote from: Alan Southstand on July 12, 2020, 09:37:56 amI enjoyed every minute of it!Grass isn’t greener - isn’t that what Grant told Tommy Rowe when he saw fit to get rid? Leaves a lot to be desired, does Mr McCann. Yes, he had us playing, there’s no doubt, but he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. And, has anyone noticed Wilks lately, he looks about a stone overweight, or maybe he doesn’t suit the kit? His arrogance got in the way of him being a half decent manager, imho, and his modus operandi on leaving us meant he went way down in my estimation. If there’s been any fresh air, it’s been the appointment of Darren Moore, who has more integrity in his little toenail than McCan’t will ever have.Rant over.Harsh to say he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. I was one of many that was critical of those inexperienced loan signings, and I was wrong. I was angry with and at McCann when he left us, but as time passes you have to look at it rationally. He’d had his budget cut here, he’d taken us probably as far as anyone could have in the circumstances, Hull offered a wildcard shot at the Championship. Up until January, when he was forced to sell Bowen and Grosicki, he was doing a good job there. Last season gave us some of the most exciting football and great days out in all my years supporting the club. I am grateful to McCann for that and also disappointed he didn’t continue into this season. I’m also delighted with Darren Moore, who I agree shows integrity in everything he does, and I feel he’s the right man for the job. It’s not a criticism of Moore to say I still miss some of the football we played under McCann. We were a ruthless team and really exciting to watch. Moore’s team is different, as are the players at his disposal. I’m confident he’ll continue to be a really good manager for us. McCann had his budget cut? Not heard that one before. By how much?
You can debate budget speculation and all that but the fact is McCann banged on and on about loyalty regarding players then left at the very first chance he could, a week after all that big talk, for a team clearly going downhill. That sheer hypocrisy is why many of us will never have a good word to say about him again.He gets all he deserves at Hull and I continue to hope they get relegated so another team in that fight can stay up another year.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on July 12, 2020, 10:33:35 amQuote from: Jonathan on July 12, 2020, 10:20:01 amQuote from: Alan Southstand on July 12, 2020, 09:37:56 amI enjoyed every minute of it!Grass isn’t greener - isn’t that what Grant told Tommy Rowe when he saw fit to get rid? Leaves a lot to be desired, does Mr McCann. Yes, he had us playing, there’s no doubt, but he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. And, has anyone noticed Wilks lately, he looks about a stone overweight, or maybe he doesn’t suit the kit? His arrogance got in the way of him being a half decent manager, imho, and his modus operandi on leaving us meant he went way down in my estimation. If there’s been any fresh air, it’s been the appointment of Darren Moore, who has more integrity in his little toenail than McCan’t will ever have.Rant over.Harsh to say he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. I was one of many that was critical of those inexperienced loan signings, and I was wrong. I was angry with and at McCann when he left us, but as time passes you have to look at it rationally. He’d had his budget cut here, he’d taken us probably as far as anyone could have in the circumstances, Hull offered a wildcard shot at the Championship. Up until January, when he was forced to sell Bowen and Grosicki, he was doing a good job there. Last season gave us some of the most exciting football and great days out in all my years supporting the club. I am grateful to McCann for that and also disappointed he didn’t continue into this season. I’m also delighted with Darren Moore, who I agree shows integrity in everything he does, and I feel he’s the right man for the job. It’s not a criticism of Moore to say I still miss some of the football we played under McCann. We were a ruthless team and really exciting to watch. Moore’s team is different, as are the players at his disposal. I’m confident he’ll continue to be a really good manager for us. McCann had his budget cut? Not heard that one before. By how much?Clearly I can’t tell you the figures, I can only say what I’ve been informed and believe to be true - that the initial indicative budget was reduced ahead of the return to pre-season. It can still be true that the budget had increased from the previous season as we’re often told. It can also be true that we can accept the budget will change without that being taken to be a slant at the club or the owners. Budgets can and do change, and I believe that it did. Can I prove it? No. If I turned the question around and substitute “cut” for “increased” would I expect you or anyone else to provide the figures? No. Do I want to get into an argument about it for the next 10 weeks? No.
Quote from: selby on July 12, 2020, 09:51:01 am They are a club that have had their day in the sun, are run by a poor owner who only ever saw them as a cash cow and not a football club, and a manager who is probably a one trick pony without the players and the finances to get the players he needs. Don't forget it was us them or Brighton who were destined for oblivion at one time, so all have done well to rise up again, but of the three I feer at the moment they are the one that could drop back to that level again, especially if the owner remains at the club. He could pull the plug any time. I live in a village that is central (Pollington) that is more or less central to Leeds, Doncaster, Hull, York etc. the only club I do not know one supporter of is Hull City.Sorry Selby that is just not true.I have no particular love for Hull City or their owner (Assem Allam) but to say he only ever saw them as cash cow goes against all the evidence.He is a Hull based businessman who has donated £millions to charitable projects in the city. He never particularly wanted to become owner, it was originally supposed to be a partnership, and only did so because saw how important the club was to the area - and they had huge debts at the time.In fact the problem with his ownership was exactly the opposite. He wanted the club to be a sustainable business, he literally incorporated it into his business rather than run it as a separate company, and wanted to generate extra revenue to fund it. Hence the mad idea to change the name and then the membership scheme which alienated the fans.I doubt he will just drop the club but he is certainly not going to put any money in. According to his company's latest account this 'cash cow' has so far cost him £50 million.https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hull-city-accounts-assem-allam-4105665
Quote from: Jonathan on July 12, 2020, 10:52:08 amQuote from: Chris Black come back on July 12, 2020, 10:33:35 amQuote from: Jonathan on July 12, 2020, 10:20:01 amQuote from: Alan Southstand on July 12, 2020, 09:37:56 amI enjoyed every minute of it!Grass isn’t greener - isn’t that what Grant told Tommy Rowe when he saw fit to get rid? Leaves a lot to be desired, does Mr McCann. Yes, he had us playing, there’s no doubt, but he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. And, has anyone noticed Wilks lately, he looks about a stone overweight, or maybe he doesn’t suit the kit? His arrogance got in the way of him being a half decent manager, imho, and his modus operandi on leaving us meant he went way down in my estimation. If there’s been any fresh air, it’s been the appointment of Darren Moore, who has more integrity in his little toenail than McCan’t will ever have.Rant over.Harsh to say he got lucky with Kane and Wilks. I was one of many that was critical of those inexperienced loan signings, and I was wrong. I was angry with and at McCann when he left us, but as time passes you have to look at it rationally. He’d had his budget cut here, he’d taken us probably as far as anyone could have in the circumstances, Hull offered a wildcard shot at the Championship. Up until January, when he was forced to sell Bowen and Grosicki, he was doing a good job there. Last season gave us some of the most exciting football and great days out in all my years supporting the club. I am grateful to McCann for that and also disappointed he didn’t continue into this season. I’m also delighted with Darren Moore, who I agree shows integrity in everything he does, and I feel he’s the right man for the job. It’s not a criticism of Moore to say I still miss some of the football we played under McCann. We were a ruthless team and really exciting to watch. Moore’s team is different, as are the players at his disposal. I’m confident he’ll continue to be a really good manager for us. McCann had his budget cut? Not heard that one before. By how much?Clearly I can’t tell you the figures, I can only say what I’ve been informed and believe to be true - that the initial indicative budget was reduced ahead of the return to pre-season. It can still be true that the budget had increased from the previous season as we’re often told. It can also be true that we can accept the budget will change without that being taken to be a slant at the club or the owners. Budgets can and do change, and I believe that it did. Can I prove it? No. If I turned the question around and substitute “cut” for “increased” would I expect you or anyone else to provide the figures? No. Do I want to get into an argument about it for the next 10 weeks? No. You can't prove it because it's not true.And every year we, the VSC, see the accounts and can verify that the budget has never been cut. What confuses the situation is that the final wage bill for that season may have been higher than expected due to end of season bonuses, plus bonuses for the excellent cup run, but to suggest that McCann had his budget cut is untrue. You and New Donny need to curtail the misinformation you keep putting out about budgets and players contracts.
Quote from: wilts rover on July 12, 2020, 10:21:14 amQuote from: selby on July 12, 2020, 09:51:01 am They are a club that have had their day in the sun, are run by a poor owner who only ever saw them as a cash cow and not a football club, and a manager who is probably a one trick pony without the players and the finances to get the players he needs. Don't forget it was us them or Brighton who were destined for oblivion at one time, so all have done well to rise up again, but of the three I feer at the moment they are the one that could drop back to that level again, especially if the owner remains at the club. He could pull the plug any time. I live in a village that is central (Pollington) that is more or less central to Leeds, Doncaster, Hull, York etc. the only club I do not know one supporter of is Hull City.Sorry Selby that is just not true.I have no particular love for Hull City or their owner (Assem Allam) but to say he only ever saw them as cash cow goes against all the evidence.He is a Hull based businessman who has donated £millions to charitable projects in the city. He never particularly wanted to become owner, it was originally supposed to be a partnership, and only did so because saw how important the club was to the area - and they had huge debts at the time.In fact the problem with his ownership was exactly the opposite. He wanted the club to be a sustainable business, he literally incorporated it into his business rather than run it as a separate company, and wanted to generate extra revenue to fund it. Hence the mad idea to change the name and then the membership scheme which alienated the fans.I doubt he will just drop the club but he is certainly not going to put any money in. According to his company's latest account this 'cash cow' has so far cost him £50 million.https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hull-city-accounts-assem-allam-4105665selby is pretty much spot on Wilts. The Allams have been taking money out of that club from day one. They charge interest on their loan, and take it every year, plus they charge the club for their management experience every single year without exception. They've been at odds with the supporters trust for years, and most trust members have been banned from the stadium for speaking up. Even the EFL have admitted that they should have been harsher on the club when the Allams cancelled concessions. The truth is they're terrible owners and not the benevolent people you mention.