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No I understood it fully , you obviously don't (or should'nt) jump ship without due diligence - he must have seen, or have been given assurances that filled him with enough confidence they could at least stay up, and build from there. If the reports of a bonus for staying out of the bottom three is true, it would say to me they that their expectations were pretty low, so perhaps he thought it was an easier job than it turned out. I thought they would at least stay up, they had enough quality within the team - some of that was sold off however!Im not defending Mcsnake here by the way, he left us high and dry by all accounts, mind you it wouldn't be DRFC if things were nice and smooth.
Quote from: jmt23 on July 16, 2020, 05:07:52 pmNo I understood it fully , you obviously don't (or should'nt) jump ship without due diligence - he must have seen, or have been given assurances that filled him with enough confidence they could at least stay up, and build from there. If the reports of a bonus for staying out of the bottom three is true, it would say to me they that their expectations were pretty low, so perhaps he thought it was an easier job than it turned out. I thought they would at least stay up, they had enough quality within the team - some of that was sold off however!Im not defending Mcsnake here by the way, he left us high and dry by all accounts, mind you it wouldn't be DRFC if things were nice and smooth.If my memory is correct the offered bonus wasn't for staying out of the bottom three, it was for staying out of the bottom third of the division.
Quote from: drfchound on July 16, 2020, 05:11:58 pmQuote from: jmt23 on July 16, 2020, 05:07:52 pmNo I understood it fully , you obviously don't (or should'nt) jump ship without due diligence - he must have seen, or have been given assurances that filled him with enough confidence they could at least stay up, and build from there. If the reports of a bonus for staying out of the bottom three is true, it would say to me they that their expectations were pretty low, so perhaps he thought it was an easier job than it turned out. I thought they would at least stay up, they had enough quality within the team - some of that was sold off however!Im not defending Mcsnake here by the way, he left us high and dry by all accounts, mind you it wouldn't be DRFC if things were nice and smooth.If my memory is correct the offered bonus wasn't for staying out of the bottom three, it was for staying out of the bottom third of the division.That's how I remember it too, Hound, hence my earlier post.
I don't think anybody would begrudge somebody moving onwards and upwards. It was the way it was done that sticks in the throat.
Quote from: silent majority on July 16, 2020, 04:06:15 pmI don't think anybody would begrudge somebody moving onwards and upwards. It was the way it was done that sticks in the throat.Absolutely don't blame anyone for doing that.I just thought that jumping into a shit show like Hull, and leaving us in the mess he did said a lot about his lack of belief in his own ability.
I agree Jonathan, he now has managerial Championship experience - which is how I would market myself when going for jobs.BST - that's fair enough, the only difference I suppose is , you had/have control over your destiny, im not sure many managers do, even when they are doing well in some cases.
Lose this afternoon and Hull are effectively down.What a shame...
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 18, 2020, 02:58:10 pmLose this afternoon and Hull are effectively down.What a shame...Not quite, they would be 3 behind Luton and Charlton but they have a better goal difference than Luton, so if they lose narrowly but win on Wednesday they may jump ahead of them and finish above Wigan once their deduction is applied, since Wigan blew it late against Charlton.
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on July 15, 2020, 01:09:13 amactually having just looked at the remaining fixtures if "dropping like a stone" Birmingham can beat Charlton today Hull will have an excellent chance of staying up.charlton then play wigan home and Leeds away if Charlton draw with wigan and lose to leeds they end up with 47 points Hull beating Luton puts them on 48 points and a better goal difference than Luton who can then only make 48 points and my "is it worth getting promotion " thread comes true https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=275083.0as usual lots of "if's" but Hull can quite easily stay up if Birmingham somehow win that match.meanwhile the Middlesbrough team are all suffering nosebleads My money would be on Luton to beat Hull.Luton have had some good results of late and have momentum.No more points for Hull this season.
actually having just looked at the remaining fixtures if "dropping like a stone" Birmingham can beat Charlton today Hull will have an excellent chance of staying up.charlton then play wigan home and Leeds away if Charlton draw with wigan and lose to leeds they end up with 47 points Hull beating Luton puts them on 48 points and a better goal difference than Luton who can then only make 48 points and my "is it worth getting promotion " thread comes true https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=275083.0as usual lots of "if's" but Hull can quite easily stay up if Birmingham somehow win that match.meanwhile the Middlesbrough team are all suffering nosebleads