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The teams we loaned players from at the beginning of the season would be disappointed with us and them if they were not showing improvement on what sort of players they were when they arrived in August with near twenty league games under their belt. One is that much better he is said to have championship sides chasing him. So yes with even more experience the side can get better if we avoid injuries and we Get Smith back in the side or another player who can play in Bens position, will he be as good as Ben? probably not, but does that mean that as a side we will be weaker? not if the players here to improve carry on doing so as quickly as they have up to this juncture in the season. And our own players Anderson, Wright, Halliday , James, Butler and John are playing as well if not better than at any time since signing for us, Feg and Lokilo are now looking settled and pushing on, Copps and Taylor are a known standard that on their day can take a game by the scruff of the neck. I don't think Ben leaving, although a very very good player above the standard of League 1 and better than the majority in the Championship is any reason for anyone to be suicidal.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on January 14, 2021, 06:10:08 pmI know loanees were mentioned in the article and we had six loanees before Christmas because of injuries it was never a problem. But DM said he’s looking at other avenues before loanees. I am disappointed that we are not going to pay a fee for a player. But DM has to work with the finances he has. What is a bit confusing we’ve lost Ben and Copps is injured yet we have two of our young players out on loan. Maybe they would not get in the first team but they would be part of the match day squad. Let’s see what type of magic DM can pull out of the hat to get players we need.What is it with the obsession with paying a fee for a player??? Do you not see that all it does is strengthen the finances of an opposing club?
I know loanees were mentioned in the article and we had six loanees before Christmas because of injuries it was never a problem. But DM said he’s looking at other avenues before loanees. I am disappointed that we are not going to pay a fee for a player. But DM has to work with the finances he has. What is a bit confusing we’ve lost Ben and Copps is injured yet we have two of our young players out on loan. Maybe they would not get in the first team but they would be part of the match day squad. Let’s see what type of magic DM can pull out of the hat to get players we need.
Quote from: i_ateallthepies on January 14, 2021, 06:49:29 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on January 14, 2021, 06:10:08 pmI know loanees were mentioned in the article and we had six loanees before Christmas because of injuries it was never a problem. But DM said he’s looking at other avenues before loanees. I am disappointed that we are not going to pay a fee for a player. But DM has to work with the finances he has. What is a bit confusing we’ve lost Ben and Copps is injured yet we have two of our young players out on loan. Maybe they would not get in the first team but they would be part of the match day squad. Let’s see what type of magic DM can pull out of the hat to get players we need.What is it with the obsession with paying a fee for a player??? Do you not see that all it does is strengthen the finances of an opposing club?Why the obsession with loans, frees and short term contracts?
Quote from: sha66y on January 14, 2021, 07:22:47 pmQuote from: Avsuptem on January 14, 2021, 07:10:25 pmIt's hard to see how the team can not be weaker if we have lost our 2 best players in Simms and BW. Neither Sims or Ben are any good in goal, neither are very good centre backs or r/l backs..Neither are good out n out strikers so not sure who you are comparing them to.......oh you mean we’ve lost 2 good midfield players, im sure Smith ,James,Copps, Gomez, Richards and the other couple or three can be coaxed to add something to the team .....it might be different, but it won’t be worseTake away the goals and assists from Ben and Sims this season, and see how many goals we're left with.
Quote from: Avsuptem on January 14, 2021, 07:10:25 pmIt's hard to see how the team can not be weaker if we have lost our 2 best players in Simms and BW. Neither Sims or Ben are any good in goal, neither are very good centre backs or r/l backs..Neither are good out n out strikers so not sure who you are comparing them to.......oh you mean we’ve lost 2 good midfield players, im sure Smith ,James,Copps, Gomez, Richards and the other couple or three can be coaxed to add something to the team .....it might be different, but it won’t be worse
It's hard to see how the team can not be weaker if we have lost our 2 best players in Simms and BW.
Godlike 1, don't you realise that the reason the club are not going to splash out the transfer money is the fact as time moves on to the end of March the club are going to be hit by supporters wanting recompensing for unused season tickets. At least now we will have the majority of the money to do so, if it comes to it which is more likely than not, it will be interesting to see how many other clubs find the funds to refund money if it comes to that, some have already said they will be unwilling or unable to do so. As far as the team is concerned, the young loan players who came to us as green as grass with no or very little league level experience should be by now better for the experience of the first half of the season and we should be a better side for it.
I think part of the problem is Moore puts a negative spin on everything. You can be excited about how we’re playing and where we are in the table and then u listen to one of his interviews and just feel deflated.
Why don't we wait while the end of the transfer Window before we start arguing? We've been blessed with the Loans brought in this season, Smith a Welsh international, Richards looks the business at times and as for Sims he's absolutely devastating when he's on it and how Moore's managed to pull that Loan off for 6months is beyond me, it's no wonder other teams a higher up are looking at him so we should just be thankful he's helped us out for half a season, if we get him any longer that would be a real blessing.
Blah blah blah. Omg as usual. There are some idiots
Quote from: dickos1 on January 15, 2021, 07:38:40 amI think part of the problem is Moore puts a negative spin on everything. You can be excited about how we’re playing and where we are in the table and then u listen to one of his interviews and just feel deflated. I understand where you're coming from. I think it's hard for any manager to be put on the spot, particularly when asked questions about transfers and finances particularly when you're aware that any false word or phrase could be misinterpreted and put into print. As we know most managers will try to lkay things with a straight bat and hold cards close to the chest. Let's be fair, it has been known for former managers to get feisty when asked certain 'silly' questions. I think any of us would find it difficult.
Quote from: scawsby steve on January 14, 2021, 07:43:49 pmQuote from: sha66y on January 14, 2021, 07:22:47 pmQuote from: Avsuptem on January 14, 2021, 07:10:25 pmIt's hard to see how the team can not be weaker if we have lost our 2 best players in Simms and BW. Neither Sims or Ben are any good in goal, neither are very good centre backs or r/l backs..Neither are good out n out strikers so not sure who you are comparing them to.......oh you mean we’ve lost 2 good midfield players, im sure Smith ,James,Copps, Gomez, Richards and the other couple or three can be coaxed to add something to the team .....it might be different, but it won’t be worseTake away the goals and assists from Ben and Sims this season, and see how many goals we're left with. Take away the other 9 players and see how many goals them 2 would’ve conceded.....very silly analogy...
Quote from: dickos1 on January 15, 2021, 07:38:40 amI think part of the problem is Moore puts a negative spin on everything. You can be excited about how we’re playing and where we are in the table and then u listen to one of his interviews and just feel deflated. Then don't listen?
Quote from: sha66y on January 14, 2021, 11:24:11 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on January 14, 2021, 07:43:49 pmQuote from: sha66y on January 14, 2021, 07:22:47 pmQuote from: Avsuptem on January 14, 2021, 07:10:25 pmIt's hard to see how the team can not be weaker if we have lost our 2 best players in Simms and BW. Neither Sims or Ben are any good in goal, neither are very good centre backs or r/l backs..Neither are good out n out strikers so not sure who you are comparing them to.......oh you mean we’ve lost 2 good midfield players, im sure Smith ,James,Copps, Gomez, Richards and the other couple or three can be coaxed to add something to the team .....it might be different, but it won’t be worseTake away the goals and assists from Ben and Sims this season, and see how many goals we're left with. Take away the other 9 players and see how many goals them 2 would’ve conceded.....very silly analogy...It's not a silly analogy, and I've been watching Rovers a lot longer than you, and so have seen all of this before.In 1956, we were near the top of the second tier, and hammering the likes of Stoke, West Ham, and Fulham. Then, in the space of 2 seasons, we lost our 3 best players, Alick, Gregg, and Tindill.The result was 2 successive relegations. The other 8 players did nothing wrong; it was just the impact of losing so much talent.