Brexit deal

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is from two years ago, but it sums up the dilemma that the sensible Tories have been in all this time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EuropeanPenguin/status/1111386427147735041/photo/1


Since then, they've chosen not to destroy their own party over not damaging the country.

We'll find out over the next week if any of them are rethinking that position.

[DonnyOsmond]

Happy Brexit day to all x

[RedJ]

They may well gain control of the Tory Party, but in doing so they will make it unelectable.

Outside of the Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire the Labour party are not that popular whoever are running the Conservatives. Even just over the border into North Lincs they wouldn't win here.

Despite them having an MP there?

And three figures worth of MPs around the UK... Unless South Yorkshire has hundreds of seats?

[Not Now Kato]

This is a bus ticket, buy it

But I don't like where the bus is going, take it away

(a short while later)

I have something for you

Is it a bus ticket?

Yes

I still don't like where the bus is going, the destination hasn't changed, take it away

(a second short while later)

I have something for you

Is it a bus ticket?

Yes, but it's a different bus ticket

Why is it different?

We don't tell you where the bus is going until after you've bought the ticket, so now will you buy it?

[BillyStubbsTears]

I see the current head of UKIP is as much in control of the facts as the ones who have gone before him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP/status/1111394659551584257

For the record, we don't have any water canons in London.

Boris Johnson bought some but they were illegal.  Sadiq Khan scrapped them.

I'm sure it's an innocent mistake by Batten, and if he inadvertently winds up Brexit supporters on a day when fevers are running high and that leads to violence, well that's just be one of those unfortunate things.

[DevilMayCry]

Happy Brexit day to all x

I still think a second referendum would be the best for the people. Now everybody knows what Brexit means and probably many people changed their decision since 2016 (some would want to change their vote from yes to no, and opposite).

The EU it's not perfect, but no country is perfect.

Since September 2018 I live and work in Salzburg, Austria. There are some things better than in Romania, and some things not, but both countries are in the EU.

And believe me, on TV and at the news they talk more about Brexit in Romania then here in Austria. Here they simply don't care about Brexit and other things outside of their country.

[tommy toes]

Strange how the contenders to replace May are now voting for her deal. The intellectually challenged Raab the latest.

[MachoMadness]

Strange how the contenders to replace May are now voting for her deal. The intellectually challenged Raab the latest.

Raad is a real gem. Resigns in protest over May's deal that was negotiated while he was Brexit secretary then goes on to vote for it when the keys to no 10 get dangled in front of him.

[The Red Baron]

Strange how the contenders to replace May are now voting for her deal. The intellectually challenged Raab the latest.

Wouldn't holding out against it earn them more Brownie Points with Tory members? Or do they just see passing her deal as the only way to start the contest?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Raab was the Brexit Secretary who said he was surprised to find out how much of our trade went through Dover...

And then voted for No Deal, when Dover port is totally unprepared for the chaos that would ensue.

If he's the best we can find as PM then God help us.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Still. He's pretty Franklin what he thinks of us, the British workforce.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1111615386678714368

I wonder what he was doing a 1am this morning while I was working on a report that will trigger the funding that keeps three of my employees in work?

[BillyStubbsTears]

This sums up Raab.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/1111610088723226624

Can't think what's changed his mind. Surely not the fact that if this vote goes through, there's a vacancy at No10?

[MachoMadness]

May's deal voted down again. Surely now - this time - the only option is a people's vote.

[Boomstick]

May's deal voted down again. Surely now - this time - the only option is a people's vote.

No deal.
As very clearly stated at the time, the vote was a 1 time deal.

[DevilMayCry]

UK MPs have rejected Theresa May’s EU withdrawal agreement by 344 votes to 286, throwing UK’s Brexit plans into more confusion.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47752017

[Axholme Lion]

They may well gain control of the Tory Party, but in doing so they will make it unelectable.

Outside of the Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire the Labour party are not that popular whoever are running the Conservatives. Even just over the border into North Lincs they wouldn't win here.

Despite them having an MP there?

Andrew Percy is Conservative.

[The Red Baron]

May's deal voted down again. Surely now - this time - the only option is a people's vote.

I think there will be a General Election first. Not in May as some people are speculating, but certainly once Theresa May's successor is installed. The new Parliament may well then vote for another Referendum.

That could change of course if a lot more MPs back a Referendum in the next Indicative Votes.

[Filo]

Flint votes with the Givernment again, she should be deselected

[Axholme Lion]

Flint votes with the Givernment again, she should be deselected

How do you feel about Conservatives voting against the government?

[selby]

  I think we have just seen the day when the labour party have probably died

[bpoolrover]

What happens if we have a people’s vote and it’s the same descion, if mps don’t back the deal now why will they the next time round, the tories that vote against it mainly want no deal and labours soul interest is getting a general election

[Glyn_Wigley]

The DUP have just said they'd rather stay in the EU than risk the Union.

Are the ERG going to follow them on that one?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

The DUP have just said they'd rather stay in the EU than risk the Union.

Are the ERG going to follow them on that one?

Well they didn't follow them today.....

May wasnt that far off in her 3rd attempt, she needed 30 more. Could she have got all of her party on side she would have got it so you can see why its held as the Tories holding it back.  Not many labour voted for it though and that's something the Tories will use in campaigning no doubt.

It is still a sorry mess.

[foxbat]

Labour must stand as a pro EU party now.

[selby]

  Farage will form a new party, as the old guy said on Question time last night, a life long labour voter, he will not vote labour again and if just 25% of leave voters back him in an election he starts off with about 4 million votes, mostly from labour candidates.
 Whether  you like him or hate him he is an orator, and will tear any manifesto that Labour or the Tories put together to shreds, this could be the real start of a three party politics in this country, but with an extreme party coming to the table, who will play the nationalist card which is always attractive to the masses.
  Inadvertently I think the major parties are inviting splitting the two main parties vote , just what Cameron was trying to avoid.

[Glyn_Wigley]

The DUP have just said they'd rather stay in the EU than risk the Union.

Are the ERG going to follow them on that one?

  Farage will form a new party, as the old guy said on Question time last night, a life long labour voter, he will not vote labour again and if just 25% of leave voters back him in an election he starts off with about 4 million votes, mostly from labour candidates.
 Whether  you like him or hate him he is an orator, and will tear any manifesto that Labour or the Tories put together to shreds, this could be the real start of a three party politics in this country, but with an extreme party coming to the table, who will play the nationalist card which is always attractive to the masses.
  Inadvertently I think the major parties are inviting splitting the two main parties vote , just what Cameron was trying to avoid.

You're right, Farage does indeed spout b*llocks very eloquently.

[DonnyOsmond]

At least the DUP have a spine unlike JRM, Boris, etc.

[Filo]

At least the DUP have a spine unlike JRM, Boris, etc.

JRM only said yesterday he would not abandon the DUP, but he did abandon them

[The Red Baron]

Farage has already formed a new party. I think his plan was to fight the Euro elections. They are much more likely to happen in the UK now. I think they will also fight the next GE if, as seems likely, Brexit hasn't happened by then.

The rules for the Euro elections make it quite likely they will win some seats. In the GE they are not likely to win any seats, but they could affect results.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just about to say the same Filo.

Principles, eh?

Skinner abstained again...