The Great Escape

[Sammy Chung was King]

We won’t need maximum points to stay up, these sides around us are very poor as well
We must start winning though the time is dwindling away. We need performance’s that are win at all costs. The players we have there is enough in them to stay up, they have shown it before against Sunderland and other sides.

Start playing some football, enjoy it and start working the opposition goalkeeper.
Fifteen points to play for, a win in the next one opens the opportunity back up.
Someone can be the one who gets us that win.
I would go 4-4-2 get Kuleya and Martin out wide, get some crosses in, start running at defenders.

[BobG]

I wish Sammy. I wish. But the evidence is overwhelming. If it happened it'd  be the biggest surprise this side of Santa being real. This squad has gone.

BobG

[sedwardsdrfc]

Are we going to get another point or goal all season? Irrelevant talking about staying up we just haven’t got it in us

[Campsall rover]

We won’t need maximum points to stay up, these sides around us are very poor as well
We must start winning though the time is dwindling away. We need performance’s that are win at all costs. The players we have there is enough in them to stay up, they have shown it before against Sunderland and other sides.

Start playing some football, enjoy it and start working the opposition goalkeeper.
Fifteen points to play for, a win in the next one opens the opportunity back up.
Someone can be the one who gets us that win.
I would go 4-4-2 get Kuleya and Martin out wide, get some crosses in, start running at defenders.

I admire your optimism SCK but even 4 wins in our last 5 games may not be enough now.

We must give it everything in these last games but we will have to possibly do the reverse of what we did in April 2017 when we got 1 point from the last 5 games.
Even dickos must believe that is fantasy.

[ravenrover]

So our season seems to be ending the same way as the film, 50 PoW were shot after capture and only 3 managed to make it home the rest were shipped back to PoW camps which in our case is the equivalent to League2

[Chris Black come back]

We have only won four games in 2022. To replicate that in a spell of the final six games would be extraordinary to say the least. We haven’t won in seven games and haven’t scored a goal in five games.

[normal rules]

In terms of the great escape analagy, we’ve just found out the motorbike has two flat tyres.
And the fence we have to jump is now twice as high.

[ravenrover]

And it's razor not barbed wire :-))

[Colemans Left Hook]

In terms of the great escape analagy, we’ve just found out the motorbike has two flat tyres.
And the fence we have to jump is now twice as high.

lets bring you down to earth for a minute    you need "tunnel vision" to escape out of this

"under or over" as the phrase goes me thinx

[dickos1]

We won’t need maximum points to stay up, these sides around us are very poor as well
We must start winning though the time is dwindling away. We need performance’s that are win at all costs. The players we have there is enough in them to stay up, they have shown it before against Sunderland and other sides.

Start playing some football, enjoy it and start working the opposition goalkeeper.
Fifteen points to play for, a win in the next one opens the opportunity back up.
Someone can be the one who gets us that win.
I would go 4-4-2 get Kuleya and Martin out wide, get some crosses in, start running at defenders.

I admire your optimism SCK but even 4 wins in our last 5 games may not be enough now.

We must give it everything in these last games but we will have to possibly do the reverse of what we did in April 2017 when we got 1 point from the last 5 games.
Even dickos must believe that is fantasy.

I said a month ago that if we didn’t get 3 points from Gillingham and fleetwood we were down.
So yeah I think it’s all over,
Crewe and Burton though are games we will
Probably win, but we probably need 4 or 5 points from the other 3 games

[DonnyOsmond]

We'll 0-0 draw v Crewe then lose to Burton.

Will the players be clapping the fans at the end of the last game of the season, and so we can show our support and appreciation of their brilliant performances this season?

[ravenrover]

In terms of the great escape analagy, we’ve just found out the motorbike has two flat tyres.
And the fence we have to jump is now twice as high.

lets bring you down to earth for a minute    you need "tunnel vision" to escape out of this

"under or over" as the phrase goes me thinx

Well I suppose you could ask any Tom Dick or Harry for an opinion

[BillyStubbsTears]

For what it's worth after the latest results

17th 55, 53, 50, 51 51, 52, 52, 52
18th 49, 53, 50, 48, 47, 50, 51, 50
19th 45, 46, 48, 42, 46, 44, 42, 43
20th 43, 43, 43, 40, 38, 38, 38, 41
++++++++++++++++++++
21st 40, 41, 42, 39, 38, 37, 38, 41
22nd 39,40, 41, 39, 38, 37, 38, 37
23rd 36, 38, 40, 38, 37, 37, 37, 37
24th 30, 27, 33, 28, 28. 27, 27, 26

For the record, our form over the last 10 games. while poor has been the second best of the bottom 6. we have won 11 points and only Gillingham  with 12 have done better.
Crewe have 3
Wimbledon 4
Morecambe 8
Fleetwood 6.

So we have improved, relative to the dross around us, but we were starting from so far back that it still looks like being too little, too late. Looks like we'll need 8-9 points from the final 3 games to have any reasonable chance.

[rich1471]

We have no chance of staying up ,we have not won back to back games since March 2021 ,never mind 4 on the bounce

[EasyforDennis]

For what it's worth after the latest results

17th 55, 53, 50, 51 51, 52, 52, 52
18th 49, 53, 50, 48, 47, 50, 51, 50
19th 45, 46, 48, 42, 46, 44, 42, 43
20th 43, 43, 43, 40, 38, 38, 38, 41
++++++++++++++++++++
21st 40, 41, 42, 39, 38, 37, 38, 41
22nd 39,40, 41, 39, 38, 37, 38, 37
23rd 36, 38, 40, 38, 37, 37, 37, 37
24th 30, 27, 33, 28, 28. 27, 27, 26

For the record, our form over the last 10 games. while poor has been the second best of the bottom 6. we have won 11 points and only Gillingham  with 12 have done better.
Crewe have 3
Wimbledon 4
Morecambe 8
Fleetwood 6.

So we have improved, relative to the dross around us, but we were starting from so far back that it still looks like being too little, too late. Looks like we'll need 8-9 points from the final 3 games to have any reasonable chance.

It will have to be 9 points from the final 3 points as 8 is impossible.

[pib]

We have 4 games left, so 8 points is technically still possible.

We are stretching the definition of the word “possible” there though, if we are saying this side can get 2 wins and 2 draws from 4 games - the sort of form we haven’t exhibited over a 4 game period all season.

[Chris Black come back]

Or indeed form we have not seen going back to early 2021.

[Bessie Red]

For what it's worth after the latest results

17th 55, 53, 50, 51 51, 52, 52, 52
18th 49, 53, 50, 48, 47, 50, 51, 50
19th 45, 46, 48, 42, 46, 44, 42, 43
20th 43, 43, 43, 40, 38, 38, 38, 41
++++++++++++++++++++
21st 40, 41, 42, 39, 38, 37, 38, 41
22nd 39,40, 41, 39, 38, 37, 38, 37
23rd 36, 38, 40, 38, 37, 37, 37, 37
24th 30, 27, 33, 28, 28. 27, 27, 26

For the record, our form over the last 10 games. while poor has been the second best of the bottom 6. we have won 11 points and only Gillingham  with 12 have done better.
Crewe have 3
Wimbledon 4
Morecambe 8
Fleetwood 6.

So we have improved, relative to the dross around us, but we were starting from so far back that it still looks like being too little, too late. Looks like we'll need 8-9 points from the final 3 games to have any reasonable chance.

If that prediction comes to fruition then we will need min 9 points as our GD is the worst of the bottom 6 by a long way!!

[normal rules]

Why do we do this to ourselves?
I’ve looked at this fridays key fixtures again.
Here is my wish list.
Crewe beat wimbledon.
Rovers beat Bolton
Gills lose at Cheltenham
Morcambe lose at charlton
Fleetwood get beat by Oxford.
All of this, with the exception perhaps of rovers are very plausible outcomes. All of the winning sides I propose would be odds on. Except rovers of course.

That would leave the table looking like this. All played same amount of games except Fleetwood.

Fleetwood 38*
Morcambe 38
Gills          38
Rovers.     36
Dons.        35
Crewe.      28

Fleetwood have a game in hand which is at home to wendies.
Rovers could, in theory, be out of the relegation zone come bank holiday Monday teatime. If the planets align. And if they get their shit together against Bolton and Shrewsbury.

Edit.just checked odds and Crewe are around 2/1 for their home win, the rest are around even money. Rovers are around 3/1 to beat Bolton.

[acacia94]

I guess the big question would be 'what would be the point of swerving the drop'? With this manager and similar team next season in LG1 would probably mean another 4000+ minutes of trawling the toilet bowl.

[Sammy Chung was King]

I think we could beat Bolton, but the team would need to improve again from the performance against Crewe.
We were beaten comfortably earlier in the season by them, we couldn’t handle their forwards.
We were wide open in midfield when we played them. I think the midfield is a little bit better now with Bostock and Clayton in there.

We would need to go for the win, try and get something to defend.
At some point they will threaten as they have good forwards. I’m going to stick my neck out and say I think we will keep a clean sheet and beat them 2-0.

[roversdude]

Why do we do this to ourselves?
I’ve looked at this fridays key fixtures again.
Here is my wish list.
Crewe beat wimbledon.
Rovers beat Bolton
Gills lose at Cheltenham
Morcambe lose at charlton
Fleetwood get beat by Oxford.
All of this, with the exception perhaps of rovers are very plausible outcomes. All of the winning sides I propose would be odds on. Except rovers of course.

That would leave the table looking like this. All played same amount of games except Fleetwood.

Fleetwood 38*
Morcambe 38
Gills          38
Rovers.     36
Dons.        35
Crewe.      28

Fleetwood have a game in hand which is at home to wendies.
Rovers could, in theory, be out of the relegation zone come bank holiday Monday teatime. If the planets align. And if they get their shit together against Bolton and Shrewsbury.

Edit.just checked odds and Crewe are around 2/1 for their home win, the rest are around even money. Rovers are around 3/1 to beat Bolton.

I’d accepted it too NR but we can’t help ourselves

[Filo]

I think we could beat Bolton, but the team would need to improve again from the performance against Crewe.
We were beaten comfortably earlier in the season by them, we couldn’t handle their forwards.
We were wide open in midfield when we played them. I think the midfield is a little bit better now with Bostock and Clayton in there.

We would need to go for the win, try and get something to defend.
At some point they will threaten as they have good forwards. I’m going to stick my neck out and say I think we will keep a clean sheet and beat them 2-0.

I should think it was comfortable we were down to 10 men for a large proportion of the game

[scawsby steve]

I think we could beat Bolton, but the team would need to improve again from the performance against Crewe.
We were beaten comfortably earlier in the season by them, we couldn’t handle their forwards.
We were wide open in midfield when we played them. I think the midfield is a little bit better now with Bostock and Clayton in there.

We would need to go for the win, try and get something to defend.
At some point they will threaten as they have good forwards. I’m going to stick my neck out and say I think we will keep a clean sheet and beat them 2-0.

I should think it was comfortable we were down to 10 men for a large proportion of the game

They'd have still pumped us without the sending off. Our midfield and defence were abysmal that night.

[roversdude]

We weren’t good but that is one of the worst decisions I’ve seen, especially if you put it into context and compare the assault that Younger suffered at Wimbledon

[Sammy Chung was King]

I don’t think we would have done anything with fourteen men on the pitch, in the last game against them.
It makes no sense to predict for us to beat them. It’s just a feeling I have that we will. It could be an infection though

[Donnywolf]

Very very unlikely 0 0 ?

[idler]

I don’t think we would have done anything with fourteen men on the pitch, in the last game against them.
It makes no sense to predict for us to beat them. It’s just a feeling I have that we will. It could be an infection though

I thought we were the better team for the first 20-30 minutes.
A bad first goal and then a ridiculous sending off then made it a very uneven contest.

[Bessie Red]

I don’t think we would have done anything with fourteen men on the pitch, in the last game against them.
It makes no sense to predict for us to beat them. It’s just a feeling I have that we will. It could be an infection though

I thought we were the better team for the first 20-30 minutes.
A bad first goal and then a ridiculous sending off then made it a very uneven contest.

Yeah if I remember they were going through a bit of a sticky patch at the time & looked very nervous until the first goal went in. Then Olowu got the red that should have only been a yellow at best and the contest was over!

[Reg of the Rovers]

I don’t think we would have done anything with fourteen men on the pitch, in the last game against them.
It makes no sense to predict for us to beat them. It’s just a feeling I have that we will. It could be an infection though

I thought we were the better team for the first 20-30 minutes.
A bad first goal and then a ridiculous sending off then made it a very uneven contest.

Yeah if I remember they were going through a bit of a sticky patch at the time & looked very nervous until the first goal went in. Then Olowu got the red that should have only been a yellow at best and the contest was over!

And Jon Taylor missed the easiest chance I’ve ever seen at 0-0 11v11 when we were on top. Another one to add to the ‘what could have been’ this year.