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If it’s us and Crawley in the final we’ll outnumber them, which isn’t a bad effort to say they’re 120 miles closer to Wembley than we are!
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 07, 2024, 10:31:37 pmI'm confident we'll take 25000 if we get there. Trains are practically sold out. Not a chance now that supporters coaches have been announced at £55
I'm confident we'll take 25000 if we get there.
Quote from: drfcsteve on May 08, 2024, 08:27:39 amIf it’s us and Crawley in the final we’ll outnumber them, which isn’t a bad effort to say they’re 120 miles closer to Wembley than we are!Crawley have a much smaller fan base than we do. Yes our ave is 7.100 this season but it looks like 12500 to 13.000 home fans are turning up on Friday.We have a huge number of shall we call it glory hunter / get on the success bandwagon supporters.We will take at least 20.000 to Wembley. The cost though will be prohibitive to many I fear. Travel and tickets combined is going to be very expensive. It is going to be a minimum of £75 to £100 + per person for ticket and travel.This is a very expensive day out for a family of 4/5
One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young. It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss. I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
The majority of those going on Friday night will either be season ticket holders or regular attendees. Next up are the engaged part-timers. Once you get past that group you are running into thinner territory. Yes people like a day out at Wembley and to be associated with success, but the marginal fan over that 10,000 is going to have to shell out around £100 per person and get down to Wembley without being a regular at doing this or likely attending our games. That’s a lot to ask people who aren’t engaged. The marginal fan is a difficult beast to understand, and people shouldn’t think the first 10,000 (season ticket holders, engaged part-timers) are anything like the next 10,000 (god only knows what these people are like). We have high engagement at the front end and much lower engagement at the back end. Those incremental fans over 10,000 will be harder to convince to shell out and go to Wembley. Not impossible, but harder.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on May 08, 2024, 09:28:27 amThe majority of those going on Friday night will either be season ticket holders or regular attendees. Next up are the engaged part-timers. Once you get past that group you are running into thinner territory. Yes people like a day out at Wembley and to be associated with success, but the marginal fan over that 10,000 is going to have to shell out around £100 per person and get down to Wembley without being a regular at doing this or likely attending our games. That’s a lot to ask people who aren’t engaged. The marginal fan is a difficult beast to understand, and people shouldn’t think the first 10,000 (season ticket holders, engaged part-timers) are anything like the next 10,000 (god only knows what these people are like). We have high engagement at the front end and much lower engagement at the back end. Those incremental fans over 10,000 will be harder to convince to shell out and go to Wembley. Not impossible, but harder. Why the assumption that folks would need to pay £100 each? Not everyone will rely on coach or trains to get there. Is there a shortage of cars in and around Doncaster?
Quote from: GazLaz on May 08, 2024, 09:02:06 amOne thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young. It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss. I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study. This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
Quote from: CJK on May 08, 2024, 09:24:06 amQuote from: GazLaz on May 08, 2024, 09:02:06 amOne thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young. It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss. I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study. This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either. I’m 40 and started going in the 90s. There aren’t too many that fall into that category. The ones that started going 20 years ago, when things improved, are just creeping into their early 30s now.
Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parkingA refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
Quote from: Filo on May 07, 2024, 06:31:48 pmWell I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parkingA refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in thereThanks for sharing this Filo. Just quoting you to bump the link again for others. I've just booked my spot here too....pretty sure this is exactly where I parked for the Leeds match...history repeating itself?
Quote from: GazLaz on May 08, 2024, 09:47:09 amQuote from: CJK on May 08, 2024, 09:24:06 amQuote from: GazLaz on May 08, 2024, 09:02:06 amOne thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young. It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss. I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study. This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either. I’m 40 and started going in the 90s. There aren’t too many that fall into that category. The ones that started going 20 years ago, when things improved, are just creeping into their early 30s now. I'm in my late 40's and started going in the early 90's, mostly misery for years but was season ticket holder until 2008 when I moved away. I'm only an hour and a half away but since having kids etc and wife working Saturdays for years I only make a few games a season now but still watch the goals go in and keep up to date on here and on socials. Certainly class myself as a full time fan but a very rare attendee, when I do come I usually bring my dad who has attended many games over the years without having more than a passing interest and my lad comes too these days so we will make up three of the extra number. i guess there will be a few in my bracket.
That's really interesting stuff SM, thanks for sharing. Do you know if the club see a significant drop off at age 24/25 where the pricing jumps up to the full adult price or is our retention rate at that point pretty good?
Quote from: Superspy on May 08, 2024, 11:10:23 amThat's really interesting stuff SM, thanks for sharing. Do you know if the club see a significant drop off at age 24/25 where the pricing jumps up to the full adult price or is our retention rate at that point pretty good?No, we can retain them. Its 16+ that becomes the problem, leaving for university and other reasons seems to b ethe major issue. Will they come back? Not if the jobs in the area remain elusive.