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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Alan Southstand on June 09, 2017, 12:25:47 pm
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Potentially big day today for announcements of the 3 new players that DF is after. Quoted earlier this week as suggesting he would like all 3 signed up by the end of this week and not a lot has happened since!
Hopefully, we will get to hear or read something a little more positive today, but I'm not holding my breath. Even the Sheff U lad has not been officially announced as yet.
26th June is not that far away, now.
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Would he be one of the 3
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NO.
We're talking of 5 Fergie targets and he has a lb so far. The 5 being a left back, a left sided cb, a striker and 2 midfielders. So, the 3 are cb, m, s.
If any of the 5 transfer listed goes, DF would like another striker (with out and out pace).
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He did say he wanted them in by last Friday and a week on still nothing. Maybe we're struggling to get the deals over the line or just taking our time. It does seem strange that there's no names being banded about.
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It maybe they just are not being announced. The lad from Sheffield united has been confirmed at the blades' end but nothing official from rovers
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But they still plugging Season Tickets even tho he is telling us not to expect a great push for the Championship
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As long as they are in for start of pre season I don't think he will mind. I don't mind it last season we didn't have a clue until a signing was announced and this season seems the same.
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If my memory is correct, Houghton and Mason were very late signings, il happily wait if they turn out like those two!
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Also, we knew sod all about them until they were here.
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Well Fergie was the one who told us about the three further signings, albeit the word hopeful was used, so they must have an idea we are anticiting something.
Not to have announced anything by now is disappointing. Even if they updated us by saying talks are ongoing would be something.
I imagine the ticket office needs something to get ticket sales ticking over! The staff must be bored rigid!'
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If my memory is correct, Houghton and Mason were very late signings, il happily wait if they turn out like those two!
They signed within the last 24 hours before we played Accrington didn't they?
Patience is a virtue they say. On this forum it appears to be an impossibility. I'll say it again...it's only early June folks. Window doesn't even open for another three weeks.
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That is true so why does DF spout clap trap
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Nearly all the Premier Clubs have announced their released lists.
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Nearly all the Premier Clubs have announced their released lists.
We announced our list weeks ago, is your point that we should be announcing signings by now? How many signings have been announced at those Premier League clubs?
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Has come to me today we are talking to Alex Bruce
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Nearly all the Premier Clubs have announced their released lists.
We announced our list weeks ago, is your point that we should be announcing signings by now? How many signings have been announced at those Premier League clubs?
Exactly, I was hoping that someone would look up the WBA list to see if that centre half they were all raving about who was on l.oan at Mansfield as I did not know his name. Not overly bothered but some may have known who has been banded around as possible loanees, if released then the one who was going to be a permanent signing may have been easier to get. "Cat and Mouse" I think Mr F is playing and the fans are caught up in it.
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Has come to me today we are talking to Alex Bruce
Hull City ? I think he was released is that so ?
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Just read Bury have signed Jay O'Shay good goal scorer
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If my memory is correct, Houghton and Mason were very late signings, il happily wait if they turn out like those two!
They signed within the last 24 hours before we played Accrington didn't they?
Patience is a virtue they say. On this forum it appears to be an impossibility. I'll say it again...it's only early June folks. Window doesn't even open for another three weeks.
The "Unofficial" window opening is today. Actually it seems to me to have been weeks ago as plenty of players have moved ( maybe out of contract, or end coming, i dont know, but certainly transfers can be made much earlier than July 1st).
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Has come to me today we are talking to Alex Bruce
I would of thought he would be well out of our price range wages wise.
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We will have to see
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We will have to see
We will. Be a good signing in league 1 if true.
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If my memory is correct, Houghton and Mason were very late signings, il happily wait if they turn out like those two!
They signed within the last 24 hours before we played Accrington didn't they?
Patience is a virtue they say. On this forum it appears to be an impossibility. I'll say it again...it's only early June folks. Window doesn't even open for another three weeks.
The "Unofficial" window opening is today. Actually it seems to me to have been weeks ago as plenty of players have moved ( maybe out of contract, or end coming, i dont know, but certainly transfers can be made much earlier than July 1st).
Nothing unofficial about it. 1st July is international transfer window, and the day players become out of contract of course. 9th of June I believe is the day the transfer window in England opens.
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Bradford City have already lost one player to Millwall and have 5 others out of contract likely to move.
Rory McArdle is reported to be signing a three year deal at Scunny on twice the wages that he was on at City.
They have stated that they won't break their wage structure to keep them.
Imagine how the over 17,000 STHs are feeling having just missed out on promotion.
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If my memory is correct, Houghton and Mason were very late signings, il happily wait if they turn out like those two!
They signed within the last 24 hours before we played Accrington didn't they?
Patience is a virtue they say. On this forum it appears to be an impossibility. I'll say it again...it's only early June folks. Window doesn't even open for another three weeks.
The "Unofficial" window opening is today. Actually it seems to me to have been weeks ago as plenty of players have moved ( maybe out of contract, or end coming, i dont know, but certainly transfers can be made much earlier than July 1st).
Nothing unofficial about it. 1st July is international transfer window, and the day players become out of contract of course. 9th of June I believe is the day the transfer window in England opens.
Read this then. http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/summer-transfer-window-west-brom-12538270?service=responsive
Or This. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_window
Therefore it must be unofficial.
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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/2017-summer-transfer-window-open-13140904 have a read of this then, since we're using random local rags and wikipedia.
Sky Sports also seem to think that I'm right too... http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/10862752/when-does-the-transfer-window-open
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BBC think otherwise, FORMALLY open 1st July. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers
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Tumbleweed it is then!
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BBC think otherwise, FORMALLY open 1st July. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers
The international transfer window opens on the 1st of July. But there is an English transfer window that opened yesterday.
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http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/when-does-the-summer-transfer-window-open-and-close-for-premier-league-clubs/story-30337985-detail/story.html as you can see here, other countries also have their own internal transfer windows opening on different dates to the international transfer window.
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Donny still have not signed anybody though - No matter when the dates are DF spouted what he had done and he may have the green light, well perhaps it has gone to red on all three possible transfers, takes a bit of believing
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That's what slightly concerns me, we have no knowledge whether it's ongoing or whether things have ground to a halt.
He must have been pretty confident that we were going to get our targets, as he has mentioned it several times. However, things have since gone very quiet! :s
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Genuinely though, why does it concern people that Fergie and the club aren't divulging every step of our transfer negotiations or lack thereof? That isn't how clubs do business, and it goes against the precedent set last summer of keeping schtum until there's signings to announce. Professionalism.
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I appreciate all that, Alias, however, for those of us who are interested in how the team building is shaping up, its of no help. A implement 'things are taking a bit longer than expected' would do. That's not giving anything away. And, after all, if DF had said nothing, we'd be none the wiser!
Mushrooms spring to mind.
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Maybe the players he wants have looked on this thread and have thought that I'm not playing for that set of moaning bas**rds!
Bloody hell guys it's the beginning of June, everyone's on holiday. Log off for a couple weeks as you're only winding yourselves up!
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Good idea knockers, maybe Ferguson should not lead us down the Garden path also, as I recall he said the fans are very important to the team, I was told prior to season ending several times by someone at the club, If they sell a good amount of ST the owners will stump up the cash for a real push to the Championship so I bought two, something I really was not in a position to do really, also because I know that I may only get to half the games. Others too did the same, then last week there is talk from DF that he will be playing just for League one next term, looks like he meant it but should not speak out when he knows he may not get the players, then it was move on to secondary targets and then get the released players fixed up with clubs, looks to me that Williams will spearhead the reserves next term, At This Moment in Time.
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The CEO said they knew the targets they had been talking to them early, it's not just down to the manager. Maybe the budget set is not good enough to get players he wants and the CEO can't get the deals done.
Maybe the ST sales are not what the owners wanted so the extra money is not available we will have to wait and see.
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Or maybe you can't put a definitive endpoint on two-sided negotiations, and it's the off-season so people are extrapolating whatever narrative they think to fill the football-less void.
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Could it be the loan signings are part of the under 20s world cup winning team at all ?
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Could it be the loan signings are part of the under 20s world cup winning team at all ?
If they were, they won't be any more - no chance will any of those play in anything below the Championship next year.
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If they were, they won't be any more - no chance will any of those play in anything below league one next year.
Good job we're in league 1 then!
Haha good point, modified!
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Fergie said he was hoping to get them signed. He may have been over optimistic but I think some of us need to get a grip
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The CEO said they knew the targets they had been talking to them early, it's not just down to the manager. Maybe the budget set is not good enough to get players he wants and the CEO can't get the deals done.
Maybe the ST sales are not what the owners wanted so the extra money is not available we will have to wait and see.
I will go with that, of course they did spout and in my opinion they did a good deal for £30 for kids up to 17 yrs of age . But perhaps the adult sales were not good enough, I was told from within. "If the ST sales are very good the owners will make it happen" answers on a post card, perhaps the club should announce what adult sales were...The issue of ST to me is a poor one because they need to be winning to drag in the occasional fans and not rely on us that have been going 60 years, because that is pure folly. Set their stall out accordingly ie safety in league one would not sell tickets but it looks like that is the case, so now we may keep Williams too. He has had his back side kicked and will want to push on. I think he should be given the chance as nobody wants him it is a clear and obvious issue his backside has been kicked very hard.
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Or maybe you can't put a definitive endpoint on two-sided negotiations, and it's the off-season so people are extrapolating whatever narrative they think to fill the football-less void.
It's not filling a void and I understand now we are in League 1 it won't be easy to get players as it was in League 2, it will take longer.
But to get these players it's not just down to the manager the CEO will be involved to ensure the financial side of the deals are right.
Also it will be down to the clubs we hope to loan from and the players involved.
So until the players we are getting are in the bag then let's not intimate from club or manager that it is close.
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I think the plan is to be a club who can stay in the Championship by 2022
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Season ticket sales have been very good as far as I know and our ST sales will not be impacting the time it takes to sign players. The budget was set last month and we are working to bring in targets. It is that simple.
I check the BBC's transfers page every day so I don't miss anything throughout the leagues and there is literally 2-5 moves confirmed between ALL leagues. I'm only going to keep hammering this home but please be patient folks, it is still early days yet!
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Doncaster Rovers youngster Tyler Walker has signed a professional contract with the club.
The full-back who joined the club in 2008, has progressed through the academy ranks and has now been rewarded with a six month deal by first-team manager Darren Ferguson.
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Pressure to develop in that 6 months or he'll be going.
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They've only announced it so we don't have a mass Bempton cliffs suicide leap!
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Liam Hodens Twitter feed:
Being asked a lot about Rovers signings. Not to sound like I'm fobbing people off but work is going off in the background #drfc
Don't forget, Rovers haven't announced Ben Whiteman yet. It's done and dusted but it's not been publicly confirmed yet. #drfc
Just because things haven't been announced, doesn't mean progress hasn't been made and things haven't been agreed. Be patient #drfc
Not every club is Mansfield and sign a dozen players before the end of the first week of June #drfc
You get quiet weeks (or two) at this stage of the summer because people are on holiday. Not much is going on anywhere - except Mansfield
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Probably getting them in early so Stevie Evans knows how much they can spend on pies.
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Not every club is Mansfield and sign a dozen players before the end of the first week of June #drfc
You get quiet weeks (or two) at this stage of the summer because people are on holiday. Not much is going on anywhere - except Mansfield
..........or Bury!
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Not much matches Mansfield....
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Too right, it was awful stuff but brings back memories. 😉
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Good idea knockers, maybe Ferguson should not lead us down the Garden path also, as I recall he said the fans are very important to the team, I was told prior to season ending several times by someone at the club, If they sell a good amount of ST the owners will stump up the cash for a real push to the Championship so I bought two, something I really was not in a position to do really, also because I know that I may only get to half the games. Others too did the same, then last week there is talk from DF that he will be playing just for League one next term, looks like he meant it but should not speak out when he knows he may not get the players, then it was move on to secondary targets and then get the released players fixed up with clubs, looks to me that Williams will spearhead the reserves next term, At This Moment in Time.
We used to hear names being branded about at this time of the off season but with loans having to be sorted out early it means everyone is more diving into the same pool . I just hope we aren't waiting to get players moved out first .
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Can't believe we still haven't announced anything yet.
Bramwell out.
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Good idea knockers, maybe Ferguson should not lead us down the Garden path also, as I recall he said the fans are very important to the team, I was told prior to season ending several times by someone at the club, If they sell a good amount of ST the owners will stump up the cash for a real push to the Championship so I bought two, something I really was not in a position to do really, also because I know that I may only get to half the games. Others too did the same, then last week there is talk from DF that he will be playing just for League one next term, looks like he meant it but should not speak out when he knows he may not get the players, then it was move on to secondary targets and then get the released players fixed up with clubs, looks to me that Williams will spearhead the reserves next term, At This Moment in Time.
We used to hear names being branded about at this time of the off season but with loans having to be sorted out early it means everyone is more diving into the same pool . I just hope we aren't waiting to get players moved out first .
We aren't, Fergie said as much in one of his recent interviews. The four main targets he wants (which includes Whiteman) are the priority, and then when those are signed he will shift his focus to moving on the 5 listed players. He also said that moving those 5 would allow him the extra funds to shore up the depth of the squad a bit more should he wish to closer to the start of the season.
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Mansfield. Old fat boy definitely likes a deal doesn't he!
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Good idea knockers, maybe Ferguson should not lead us down the Garden path also, as I recall he said the fans are very important to the team, I was told prior to season ending several times by someone at the club, If they sell a good amount of ST the owners will stump up the cash for a real push to the Championship so I bought two, something I really was not in a position to do really, also because I know that I may only get to half the games. Others too did the same, then last week there is talk from DF that he will be playing just for League one next term, looks like he meant it but should not speak out when he knows he may not get the players, then it was move on to secondary targets and then get the released players fixed up with clubs, looks to me that Williams will spearhead the reserves next term, At This Moment in Time.
It shouldn't be overlooked that if the transfer listed players don't get offered a deal elsewhere or don't want to go to a club that comes in for them, they are within their rights to sit tight and keep drawing money from the club until their contracts expire.
It may not be easy to move some of them on.
We used to hear names being branded about at this time of the off season but with loans having to be sorted out early it means everyone is more diving into the same pool . I just hope we aren't waiting to get players moved out first .
We aren't, Fergie said as much in one of his recent interviews. The four main targets he wants (which includes Whiteman) are the priority, and then when those are signed he will shift his focus to moving on the 5 listed players. He also said that moving those 5 would allow him the extra funds to shore up the depth of the squad a bit more should he wish to closer to the start of the season.
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I dont think the lack of signings is any thing to worry about.A lot of players are on holiday at the moment,and with so many players now basically without clubs a lot will be keeping their options open and looking for the best deal they can get.
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I don't think that too many are worried Acko.
I think that it's more disappointment after DFs comments making them sound imminent.
It's sometimes better to say nothing rather than build up hopes.
Just my opinion of course.
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Patience is a virtue 😊
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I thought that it was a card game. 😉
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Mansfield. Old fat boy definitely likes a deal doesn't he!
Was that a typo. Did you mean meal ?
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Or indeed a meal deal? Bet he's always in Boots.
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I'd sooner managers do things under the radar like last season , but with social media it just gives fans less patience with signings.
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That's true Danny but I've learned over the years never to promise what you can't deliver to kids, grandkids and worst of all the wife.
Promise something in a few days time and you're pestered about it from the moment you open your mouth.
Hopefully all the background work keeps the fans happy.
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Am I dreaming or have I seen something about Peter Whittingham signing?
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Am I dreaming or have I seen something about Peter Whittingham signing?
Yes Whittingham has indeed signed for the Rovers...the Blackburn Rovers.
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Thank you thought it was a bit too good to be true
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Radio Sheffield reporting were about to sign a young striker from a prem club and should be completed by tomorrow. It's a permanent deal too.
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It's getting closer. 👌
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What is, Christmas. 😊
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That's true Danny but I've learned over the years never to promise what you can't deliver to kids, grandkids and worst of all the wife.
Promise something in a few days time and you're pestered about it from the moment you open your mouth.
Let that be a lesson. Keep your mouth shut, and buy the wife a 9 inch ruler. :blink:
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Theres something imminent, when this is being pushed out on facebook and twitter today
#DRFCDNA | Want to find out some exclusive #DRFC news? buy a Silver Membership now to find out before anyone else! tickets.clubdoncaster.co.uk
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic it is then! Bet everyone will moan he's no use until January due to injury, and demand we sign Keshi Anderson instead.
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Personally I think we should sign Mark Wilson.
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That's true Danny but I've learned over the years never to promise what you can't deliver to kids, grandkids and worst of all the wife.
Promise something in a few days time and you're pestered about it from the moment you open your mouth.
Let that be a lesson. Keep your mouth shut, and buy the wife a 9 inch ruler. :blink:
She's sticking with the 6" one that I bought her for Chrismas.