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Quote from: drfchound on April 16, 2021, 10:10:35 pmFrom a purely non political point of view, it isn’t too long ago that some posters on here were pontificating that Starmer was the man who would lead the Labour Party to a wonderful victory.It would appear that might not be happening now.Clearly in Starmer's case he promised many things , build on the narrative of a more fairer society which was Corbyn's tune but with a more credible face to attain the Labour leadership .Only to become leader then turn the other way towards the Blair flavour of the Labour Party .More fool me for thinking this London based pro EU tw@t was anything other than what he really is .I won't be making the same mistake twice .
From a purely non political point of view, it isn’t too long ago that some posters on here were pontificating that Starmer was the man who would lead the Labour Party to a wonderful victory.It would appear that might not be happening now.
Stabber Starmer, more edges than a broken p*ss pot.
Wilts.In the US, Sanders showed leadership to his supporters by embracing Biden.In the UK, following Starmer being elected, we had months of surly silence from the Corbyn team and outright opposition from Corbynista activists, followed by Corbyn and Long-Bailey pouring petrol on the anti-Semitism issue that has done so much damage to Labour's standing.You say Starmer has not reached out to the Left. He put Long-Bailey in his Shadow Cabinet. What is he then to do when she re-tweets an anti-Semitic (and factually incorrect) trope and refuses to apologise? Pat her on the back and say "you carry on"?You reckon the committed Corbynistas actually want Starmer to succeed? Because from my viewpoint, all I see is them wanting to continue the internal fighting. Just as the far Left always did.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 17, 2021, 01:26:00 pmWilts.In the US, Sanders showed leadership to his supporters by embracing Biden.In the UK, following Starmer being elected, we had months of surly silence from the Corbyn team and outright opposition from Corbynista activists, followed by Corbyn and Long-Bailey pouring petrol on the anti-Semitism issue that has done so much damage to Labour's standing.You say Starmer has not reached out to the Left. He put Long-Bailey in his Shadow Cabinet. What is he then to do when she re-tweets an anti-Semitic (and factually incorrect) trope and refuses to apologise? Pat her on the back and say "you carry on"?You reckon the committed Corbynistas actually want Starmer to succeed? Because from my viewpoint, all I see is them wanting to continue the internal fighting. Just as the far Left always did. Listen to yourself. A report was created about infighting and how a number of MPs in the center of the party wanted to ruin the parties chances at an election to try and get rid of Corbyn. All you're doing is putting the blame continuously at the left.
Wilts.In the US, Sanders showed leadership to his supporters by embracing Biden.In the UK, following Starmer being elected, we had months of surly silence from the Corbyn team and outright opposition from Corbynista activists, followed by Corbyn and Long-Bailey pouring petrol on the anti-Semitism issue that has done so much damage to Labour's standing.You say Starmer has not reached out to the Left. He put Long-Bailey in his Shadow Cabinet. What is he then to do when she re-tweets an anti-Semitic (and factually incorrect) trope and refuses to apologise? Pat her on the back and say "you carry on"?You reckon the committed Corbynistas actually want Starmer to succeed? Because from my viewpoint, all I see is them wanting to continue the internal fighting. Just as the far Left always did.
Tyke.You have totally lost me now.You talk about "the Left of the party".But you hated Corbyn.Labour's economic policies have been consistent for more than 10 years, and have been aimed at addressing precisely the problems that both you and I want to address.But whichever Labour leader puts them forward, you complain that it's not right.What exactly DO you want?
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making mistakes - Napoleon Bonepart
Quote from: Ldr on April 18, 2021, 08:00:23 pmNever interrupt your enemy when he's making mistakes - Napoleon BonepartFor goodness sake, don’t bring Napoleon into the discussion mate.
No they didn't Kato and that was because he was trying to force Europe on us.
No they didn't Kato and that was because he was trying to force Europe on us.
like William the Conqueror selby?