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Fascinating responses. Make JRM on QT last night sound like a bleeding heart liberal. I thought a key feature of why we were better than IS is that we believe in man-made laws, not some perverted interpretation of what some "prophet" is supposed to have had revealed to him by God 1400 years ago.As JRM said last night,1) She was legally a child who was groomed into joining IS.2) Under international law, we are duty bound to accept her back to the UK.3) If she has committed a crime, we should then prosecute her. She may well have done horrific things. But it's not your right or my right to say that our revulsion of what she has done means we break international law. Unless you want to become the sort of society that IS want us to become. One where blood lust and revenge trump's the law.
It's a wonderful and admirable thing doing right by deserving and desirable people, but like in many other instances, the problem is undeserving and undesirable people want the same privileges. This often leads to genuine people losing out to the frauds.That's the biggest reason why socialism doesn't work.
It comes to something when Jacob Rees-Mogg tonight on QT is speaking sense on this. As he said, when she was radicalised and went to ISIS, she was 15. She was "married" immediately. In normal circumstances, we'd call a 15 year old that experienced grooming and then was raped by an older man a "victim".
Because if she was "married" at 15 to an older man and they had sex (which they highly likely did as she's now only 19 and pregnant for the third time) that, legally, is rape
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 15, 2019, 10:16:24 pmBecause if she was "married" at 15 to an older man and they had sex (which they highly likely did as she's now only 19 and pregnant for the third time) that, legally, is rapeGiven that she left the juristriction of the UK of her own free will, and joined a caliphate, namely Islamic State and the fact that in those comunities child brides are common place and legal in their culture, the age of consent would not come into and the only way she was raped is if she didn’t give consent. So Rees Mogg cannot be sure she was raped and she hasn’t made any allegation that she was raped
So let me get this right. If you had a daughter at 15, who was groomed and convinced to travel to another country, where an older man had sex with her, and in that country, child brides were ten a penny. That'd be cool?