Coronavirus

[IDM]

There wasn’t time for each of them to ask all the possible questions, like why didn’t his wife drive..

Clearly no one expected the eye test drive thing otherwise someone would have checked the driving law.

[IDM]

Doggo, couldn’t get out of bed his wife said

You would have thought she would have written about their child needing to go to hospital (sparing specific details maybe) and talked about her worries as a parent.?

[drfchound]

There wasn’t time for each of them to ask all the possible questions, like why didn’t his wife drive..

Clearly no one expected the eye test drive thing otherwise someone would have checked the driving law.

That is the point I was making, they all asked the same questions.

[River Don]

Six months for dangerous driving whilst knowingly impaired by a medical condition.

Safety of the child, a passenger at the time, is the priority here, remember.

[Filo]

Doggo, couldn’t get out of bed his wife said

You would have thought she would have written about their child needing to go to hospital (sparing specific details maybe) and talked about her worries as a parent.?

She did write about her child, he was dressing up playing doctors with a supposedly seriously ill covid patient, now If Had covid I wouldn’t want my kids anywhere near me, no matter how much it upset them

[IDM]

But you would think that as she was writing about their experiences as a family potentially suffering with the virus, she would have mentioned the child going to hospital (not saying where to maintain privacy) even if only to gain sympathy from the readers..

As for eyesight being affected by Covid-19:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/check-if-you-have-coronavirus-symptoms/

Also, he said he collected them from hospital - wasn’t he supposed to be self isolating then.?

If his justification for being in Durham was that his family could legitimately help out, why didn’t one of his relatives do the hospital run.?

[drfchound]

No one bothered to ask.
The journalists had had all day to prepare the questions too.

[BillyStubbsTears]

He collected them from hospital...when his wife had said in her article that he was doggo (whatever that means).

[IDM]

No one bothered to ask.
The journalists had had all day to prepare the questions too.

How could they prepare questions before they knew what his story was.?

[BillyStubbsTears]

So

According to Cummings.

He drove to Durham on 28 March

He became ill on 29 March.

He kid was taken into hospital in the night of 2 April in an ambulance.

He went and picked up wife and kid later that day.

Those are his precise dates from today's press conference.

His wife's Spectator piece says that after he collapsed, he was confined to bed. She says he collapsed the day after rushing home to look after her (so, 29 March - we will ignore the fact that she forgot about the drive to Durham).

After that, in her own words...

"Dom couldn't get out of bed. Day in day out for ten days".

So, how did he drive to the hospital on 2 April.

One of them is lying.

[Donnywolf]

Lady on Twitter also miffed at Reporters and their monotonous questions such as "do you think there is one rule for you and one for us"

Why did they not conspire to get a spread of questions - and she suggested

Steaming at ears. Why didn't journalists ask if DC wife could drive?

Dangers of travelling L to D  illness,accident,breakdown,

4 yr old needing toilet on M1?

Extra risk  confines of car?

Wife simple bug?

DC's exact symptoms?

DC work at home?

Refund for those been fined?

I personally would have asked - so your kid aged 4 needed the loo on way from Barnard Castle back to Durham (30 miles) but not when you were driving London to Durham which was 9 times as far roughly (264 miles)

[Ldr]

He never said he did or didn't on the way back to london DW

[foxbat]

Dominic Cummings gave a detailed account of his actions ........

Very detailed , he admitted breaking Lockdown 3 times,
his family are an exceptional case apparently.

I did not know you can test your eyesight driving your car 30 miles ?
Have a day trip  whilst shedding Covid.

A lack of self awareness too. What a farce!

[Jonathan]

So

According to Cummings.

He drove to Durham on 28 March

He became ill on 29 March.

He kid was taken into hospital in the night of 2 April in an ambulance.

He went and picked up wife and kid later that day.

Those are his precise dates from today's press conference.

His wife's Spectator piece says that after he collapsed, he was confined to bed. She says he collapsed the day after rushing home to look after her (so, 29 March - we will ignore the fact that she forgot about the drive to Durham).

After that, in her own words...

"Dom couldn't get out of bed. Day in day out for ten days".

So, how did he drive to the hospital on 2 April.

One of them is lying.

Well, when you put it like that. Unquestionably.

The more you look at it, the more the explanation contains more holes than my kitchen sieve.

[drfchound]

No one bothered to ask.
The journalists had had all day to prepare the questions too.

How could they prepare questions before they knew what his story was.?

I thought those people were the cream of journalists ?
Surely one of them might have thought of it.

[Ldr]

Journalism is dead hound, nothing but gutter rag writers now

[River Don]

It couldn't be that...

Whilst showing symptoms neither parent was particularly sick, so they decided to ignore the lock down and drive up north to stay with family, in case things should get worse. Then barring one panicky trip to the hospital it became clear they weren't really poorly at all and they took advantage of the nice weather to break the lockdown again to enjoy a little R&R...

No, that couldn't be.

[Jonathan]

No one bothered to ask.
The journalists had had all day to prepare the questions too.

How could they prepare questions before they knew what his story was.?

I thought those people were the cream of journalists ?
Surely one of them might have thought of it.

What’s the point? He’s explained his actions. Anybody with half a brain can see the lies in it, you may choose to believe it if you prefer. Either way, he broke the rules, more than once.

The Prime Minister has decided he’s fine with that, and that’s his decision. I’m sure we can all draw our own conclusions on his judgement.

[IDM]

No one bothered to ask.
The journalists had had all day to prepare the questions too.

How could they prepare questions before they knew what his story was.?

I thought those people were the cream of journalists ?
Surely one of them might have thought of it.

How the hell do you expect any of them could have pre-planned a question about eye testing.?

[Filo]

This is Grant Shapps yesterday on Sophie Ridge


GRANT SHAPPS: Well, he did once they were… they were locked down, they hunkered down and they stayed there for 14 days…



That doesn’t tie in with what Cummings said today, he left the house to pick his wife and Son up from Hospital

The web of lies is massive, they cover a lie with a lie

[wilts rover]

It couldn't be that...

Whilst showing symptoms neither parent was particularly sick, so they decided to ignore the lock down and drive up north to stay with family, in case things should get worse. Then barring one panicky trip to the hospital it became clear they weren't really poorly at all and they took advantage of the nice weather to break the lockdown again to enjoy a little R&R...

No, that couldn't be.

Quite coincidentally the R&R being on her birthday of course?

[roversdude]

Didn’t the bastion of truth Shapps say yesterday that he totally believed yesterdays version and categorically denied that Cummings had visited Barnard Castle

[SydneyRover]

This is total crap, I thought I was going to wake up this morning to DC had hypnotised the whole country with beams shooting from his eyes, is this the best he can do, the SPAD to the PM can't even make up a credible excuse.

[River Don]

It couldn't be that...

Whilst showing symptoms neither parent was particularly sick, so they decided to ignore the lock down and drive up north to stay with family, in case things should get worse. Then barring one panicky trip to the hospital it became clear they weren't really poorly at all and they took advantage of the nice weather to break the lockdown again to enjoy a little R&R...

No, that couldn't be.

Quite coincidentally the R&R being on her birthday of course?

It is an elegantly simple theory, that they just ignored restrictions, didn't take the risk of infecting others seriously and just went ahead and did as they pleased.

Real life is more complex I suppose...

[SydneyRover]

Just listened to the first couple of minutes of DC, sounds like someone is dragging a bow across a violin in the background?

[wilts rover]

Cummins said in his presser that he did take coronovirus seriously and that he had actually written about the risk of a pandemic.

Yes he has written in the past about the risk of a global pandemic - but edited in a bit about coronavirus to it on 14th April. The day he began work after returning from Durham.

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1265034438645293056

[Jonathan]

Didn’t the bastion of truth Shapps say yesterday that he totally believed yesterdays version and categorically denied that Cummings had visited Barnard Castle

As I recall it, he flatly denied the second trip to Durham and said he didn’t know about Barnard Castle. For this government, that felt like an open admission it was true.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Some comments on R4 tonight that really nail the issue. And they are from Tories.

Matthew d'Ancona the former editor of the Spectator said that Cummings and Johnson have defined themselves as being on the side of the ordinary person against what they call The Elite. But in this, they have effectively said that they ARE the elite and were able to interpret the rules in a way that no-one else was. That is going to hurt them politically in a massive way.

He also pointed out that there is a huge job for the Govt to do, getting through the effects of this virus on the economy. There is going to be big unemployment and hardship. And they need the public to feel that the Govt is on their side and fighting for them. And they have burned all that trust in this issue.

Sir Roger Gale, the senior Tory backbencher said that Cummings is a civil servant. If he didn't want to bother the PM with checking if it was OK to drive to Durham, he should have spoken to the Head of the Civil Service to see what measures could be taken. But he didn't. Gale said it was a sign of Cummings' arrogance that he consulted no-one, just decided for himself how to interpret the rules that were put forward as ironclad for everyone else.

Gale said he expects the 1922 Committee to have Johnson in for a grilling this week. And he doesn't see how Cummings can survive.

These are not raving lefties. These are pillars of the Tory establishment.

And THAT is the problem for the Govt now. They have burned the goodwill and the trust of the public.

I expect their poll ratings to drop very sharply over the next few weeks. And it's going to be a very long way back.

That's what I meant yesterday when I said this feels like a Black Wednesday moment. If you lose your core reputation, it's a shite of a job to regain that.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Meanwhile, this little scrote shows the hypocrisy of the Johnson/Cummings cabal.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Dorling83/status/1264966437573189632

[Filo]

Niether Cummings or Johnson can recall what was said in a conversation between them, but Cummings can recall every detail of a two week period 2 months ago. Johnson said tonight that he had a lot on his plate around that time. Yes he was playing suduko, watching netflix whilst being in good spirits with the nurses in ICU, no wonder he wasn’t paying attention toCummings on the phone